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de66 · 27 August 2012, 09:25 AM

Hi, I am new to TRF and I have received an offer to purchase a Daytona from a seller in New Zealand who is a member of the watchnet forum.
The watch he has on offer is the following:
Rolex Daytona SS White Dial 116520
Model 116520 year 2004 Serial F
he is asking 7400$ and willing to sell for 7k. Is that too good to be true? He sent me pics including the of the frontside of the certificate but he says there is no dealership mentioned in it (where the watch was first bought).

Is that an alarm-bell? Can anybody tell me what to look out for and what questions to ask the seller before agreeing to a purchase?

Thanks in advance to all!
Greetings,
D

mannyv11 · 27 August 2012, 10:04 AM

If you have the pictures post them. there are some very educated people on this forum who are amazing at figuring out if things are fake or not just by the slightest detail. Also you must look into the seller ask him for references look around the forum see if he has posted other stuff before. Before you buy any watch at all you need to be able to trust the seller 100 percent. That's a lot of money to just transfer away if you aren't confident that the seller is a stand up guy.

rule 1) by the seller not the item
rule 2) post pictures here (high quality pics)
rule 3) Go through one of the trusted sellers on TRF such as davidsw, mosco, etc you will find many references in the who's who section here.

All and all be safe and don't go after the deal if you think its too good to be true, because generally it is. Goodluck and I hope you find the daytona of your dreams very soon my friend.

djemmtee · 27 August 2012, 10:42 AM

tell him to give all the pictures he can...then post them up here!

de66 · 27 August 2012, 03:51 PM

Thanks guys!

de66 · 27 August 2012, 03:52 PM

more pics

de66 · 27 August 2012, 03:53 PM

... and the last batch

GlobalGooch69 · 27 August 2012, 04:41 PM

real

AmbSteve · 28 August 2012, 07:47 AM

The watch looks like a beauty

crowncollection · 28 August 2012, 08:09 AM

looks good to me

jolimont · 28 August 2012, 10:00 AM

buy the seller, beware of bait and switch

Silvio Mosiello · 28 August 2012, 10:08 AM

Thats real. Only question is the movement. If that checks out you found a hell of a deal!

vintagewaferthin · 28 August 2012, 10:44 AM

It looks real to me as well, but as they say, if it looks to good to be true, it probably is. Defiantly be careful with this one.

77T · 28 August 2012, 02:19 PM

It is all about the seller. What references he has on that forum, elsewhere and his experience buying/selling. Welcome to TRF!

Lol-x · 28 August 2012, 03:01 PM

The risk is paying money to someone you don't know.
As stated above, what is important is the reliability of the seller.
You need independent confirmation from a reliable source that you will get the watch.

Otherwise there is a higher risk. Its up to you, but I would rather walk away than entertain the real prospect that I could lose $7K.

de66 · 28 August 2012, 05:55 PM

Hey! Thanks for all the tips guys! Yesterday I asked for references and the name of the delaership on the certificate where the watch was first bought.
:-) so far no answer. Guess too good to be true is going to be applicable here, but keeping an open mind for now.
Great to have discovered such an expereinced "sounding board" here on TRF

MoBe · 28 August 2012, 11:25 PM

Yup,sounds too good to be true,better walk away from this one,it has all the red flags of a con.

AmbSteve · 29 August 2012, 08:49 AM

It's a genuine photo, but considering it is several thousand less than what you'd normally pay just do some background on the watch and the seller before deciding. If the deal really sounds too good to be true after that then go with your gut feeling.

nick c · 29 August 2012, 11:55 AM

Authentic

bayerische · 29 August 2012, 07:03 PM

Pics are real, but is that the watch you'll get?

7K seems too low?

de66 · 29 August 2012, 09:51 PM

Yeah, thats what I thought too: the price seemed too low. I asked the seller for references and informed him that I would ask around. We had some initial email exchanges where he answered my emails quickly and provided me with those pics. I asked if he accepted Paypal (for me the onyl way to go because I have been saved from a bad deal by them) I then asked who I had been talking to all this time as his mails were signed off with his Watchnet name "jewelry-king". This was three days ago and no more answers. That said enough for me and I wont go near it anymore.

Again: its great to have folks like you with so much combined knowledge out there!!
Thanks again to all ,
Greetings,

D

jfestrelabr · 29 August 2012, 11:39 PM

Real but a good deal????? 7k?????

jerseyden · 30 August 2012, 02:24 AM

It is just a photograph of a real watch. That's all.

jnmarshall · 30 August 2012, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

Pics are real, but is that the watch you'll get?

7K seems too low?

Maybe you all are focusing too much on the price. Notice he said 7400$, not $7400. I don't think this is in US? Converting Euros that's $9200. On the other hand the seller is in New Zealand, I think their exhange rate would be more like $5600(?) which might make one question. You can't get a frame of whether the price is a bargin or not without knowing the currency.

Watchflair · 2 September 2012, 08:04 AM

I've always been from the school of thought if it sounds too good to be true it usually is. I don't mind spending a few extra dollars to put myself at ease with who I am doing business with.

AmbSteve · 2 September 2012, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnmarshall

Maybe you all are focusing too much on the price. Notice he said 7400$, not $7400. I don't think this is in US? Converting Euros that's $9200. On the other hand the seller is in New Zealand, I think their exhange rate would be more like $5600(?) which might make one question. You can't get a frame of whether the price is a bargin or not without knowing the currency.

I know quite a few who type it like that here in the US...not sure if maybe they forget to put the dollar sign in front and then just stick it in at the end. Since it is a dollar sign though it's pretty much a safe bet this is what they mean. If it is some other currency then they would put the conversion or a different symbol.

cajunron · 2 September 2012, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lol-x

the risk is paying money to someone you don't know.
As stated above, what is important is the reliability of the seller.
You need independent confirmation from a reliable source that you will get the watch.

Otherwise there is a higher risk. Its up to you, but i would rather walk away than entertain the real prospect that i could lose $7k.

x2!

de66 · 2 September 2012, 07:34 PM

Noticed that he has now re-listed again on watchnet. This time for 6800$.
Still no further answers to my emails. I posted the facts on watchnet too (my username there "antilian"). Hope nobody falls for this guy's tactics

Porsche · 3 September 2012, 06:50 PM

Hi D

you came here to TRF to confirm if you were saving about $2K...
I think the good members here have saved you $7K!!!

Looking forward to seeing wrist pics once you find a genuine seller/watch :)

27 August 2012, 09:25 AM	#1
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	Is this Daytona for real? Hi, I am new to TRF and I have received an offer to purchase a Daytona from a seller in New Zealand who is a member of the watchnet forum. The watch he has on offer is the following: Rolex Daytona SS White Dial 116520 Model 116520 year 2004 Serial F he is asking 7400$ and willing to sell for 7k. Is that too good to be true? He sent me pics including the of the frontside of the certificate but he says there is no dealership mentioned in it (where the watch was first bought). Is that an alarm-bell? Can anybody tell me what to look out for and what questions to ask the seller before agreeing to a purchase? Thanks in advance to all! Greetings, D

27 August 2012, 10:42 AM	#3
djemmtee "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Mike Location: Tustin Watch: LV Sub Posts: 1,940	tell him to give all the pictures he can...then post them up here! __________________ 116610 LN 116713 LN Instagram: rolexfan69

27 August 2012, 03:51 PM	#4
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	pics Thanks guys! Attached Images

27 August 2012, 03:52 PM	#5
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	pics 2 more pics Attached Images

27 August 2012, 03:53 PM	#6
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	pics 3 ... and the last batch Attached Images

27 August 2012, 10:04 AM	#2
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,510	If you have the pictures post them. there are some very educated people on this forum who are amazing at figuring out if things are fake or not just by the slightest detail. Also you must look into the seller ask him for references look around the forum see if he has posted other stuff before. Before you buy any watch at all you need to be able to trust the seller 100 percent. That's a lot of money to just transfer away if you aren't confident that the seller is a stand up guy. rule 1) by the seller not the item rule 2) post pictures here (high quality pics) rule 3) Go through one of the trusted sellers on TRF such as davidsw, mosco, etc you will find many references in the who's who section here. All and all be safe and don't go after the deal if you think its too good to be true, because generally it is. Goodluck and I hope you find the daytona of your dreams very soon my friend.

27 August 2012, 04:41 PM	#7
GlobalGooch69 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 116	real

28 August 2012, 07:47 AM	#8
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	The watch looks like a beauty __________________

28 August 2012, 08:09 AM	#9
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	looks good to me __________________ watches many

28 August 2012, 10:00 AM	#10
jolimont "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Will Location: land of oz Watch: sundial Posts: 2,219	buy the seller, beware of bait and switch

28 August 2012, 10:08 AM	#11
Silvio Mosiello "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Matthew Location: Miami/NY Watch: the shoes. Posts: 3,482	Thats real. Only question is the movement. If that checks out you found a hell of a deal!

28 August 2012, 10:44 AM	#12
vintagewaferthin "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth Watch: Air-King 5500 Posts: 2,620	It looks real to me as well, but as they say, if it looks to good to be true, it probably is. Defiantly be careful with this one.

28 August 2012, 02:19 PM	#13
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,013	It is all about the seller. What references he has on that forum, elsewhere and his experience buying/selling. Welcome to TRF! __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

28 August 2012, 03:01 PM	#14
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,587	The risk is paying money to someone you don't know. As stated above, what is important is the reliability of the seller. You need independent confirmation from a reliable source that you will get the watch. Otherwise there is a higher risk. Its up to you, but I would rather walk away than entertain the real prospect that I could lose $7K. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

28 August 2012, 05:55 PM	#15
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	Hey! Thanks for all the tips guys! Yesterday I asked for references and the name of the delaership on the certificate where the watch was first bought. :-) so far no answer. Guess too good to be true is going to be applicable here, but keeping an open mind for now. Great to have discovered such an expereinced "sounding board" here on TRF

28 August 2012, 11:25 PM	#16
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	Yup,sounds too good to be true,better walk away from this one,it has all the red flags of a con.

29 August 2012, 08:49 AM	#17
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	It's a genuine photo, but considering it is several thousand less than what you'd normally pay just do some background on the watch and the seller before deciding. If the deal really sounds too good to be true after that then go with your gut feeling. __________________

29 August 2012, 11:55 AM	#18
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Authentic

29 August 2012, 07:03 PM	#19
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Pics are real, but is that the watch you'll get? 7K seems too low? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

29 August 2012, 09:51 PM	#20
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	Yeah, thats what I thought too: the price seemed too low. I asked the seller for references and informed him that I would ask around. We had some initial email exchanges where he answered my emails quickly and provided me with those pics. I asked if he accepted Paypal (for me the onyl way to go because I have been saved from a bad deal by them) I then asked who I had been talking to all this time as his mails were signed off with his Watchnet name "jewelry-king". This was three days ago and no more answers. That said enough for me and I wont go near it anymore. Again: its great to have folks like you with so much combined knowledge out there!! Thanks again to all , Greetings, D

29 August 2012, 11:39 PM	#21
jfestrelabr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Felipe Location: Brazil Watch: ALL rolex models Posts: 397	Real but a good deal????? 7k?????

30 August 2012, 02:24 AM	#22
jerseyden "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Den Location: Jersey CI Posts: 510	It is just a photograph of a real watch. That's all.

2 September 2012, 08:04 AM	#24
Watchflair 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: Love em all Posts: 5,920	I've always been from the school of thought if it sounds too good to be true it usually is. I don't mind spending a few extra dollars to put myself at ease with who I am doing business with.

2 September 2012, 07:34 PM	#27
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	Noticed that he has now re-listed again on watchnet. This time for 6800$. Still no further answers to my emails. I posted the facts on watchnet too (my username there "antilian"). Hope nobody falls for this guy's tactics

3 September 2012, 06:50 PM	#28
Porsche 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: John Location: ɹǝpun Watch: and learn Posts: 2,986	Hi D you came here to TRF to confirm if you were saving about $2K... I think the good members here have saved you $7K!!! Looking forward to seeing wrist pics once you find a genuine seller/watch :) __________________ Obey Gravity, it's the Law! ROLEX --- SEIKO --- HEUER TRF REHAUT T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M

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