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finnluck · 10 October 2012, 06:18 AM

My fiance is temporarily doing a work assignment in LaCrosse, Wi (we usually live in the Madison area.), and so I'm here visiting on my day off and decide to bum about town. As I always do when in a new town, I look up stores that have pre-owned watches and happen on an estate sale store. I go in and it's your classic estate stale store, shelves and tables full of random stuff etc. I ask the guy running the place about watches and he takes me back to a surprisingly well stocked display case with a few vintage oysters and oyster dates, some lecoultre's, early chronoswiss and movado chronographs, but the real shocker is the beauty attached. 1950's, pre daytona day date chronograph. Dial is refinished, though faithful to the original. He's asking 85k, or would like to purchase an original dial for up to 20k if anyone has one on hand :). This is way out of my price range, but if anyone is in the market, I would be happy to pass on your phone number to him

The best part though, is how it came into his hands. He was on a road trip through the dakota's, stopped at and antique shop and bought it for FIVE DOLLARS in a bag (literally a bag) that the owner was selling for parts cause the weren't running. WOW. Why don't those kinds of things happen to me?

Kyu · 10 October 2012, 06:20 AM

i wished i can see that everyday

gregdolley · 10 October 2012, 06:21 AM

Damn, good find!!

For Rolex - so you guys USED to have the day and month on a chrono, and you took it out?!

Painter · 10 October 2012, 06:23 AM

Really Nice!!!

FremStar · 10 October 2012, 06:25 AM

$85k is not the correct price for that bad boy with a repainted dial... $5 really?

finnluck · 10 October 2012, 06:34 AM

He said he had turned down more than one offer for 35k, and he knew that I was not playing anywhere near that level, so he wasn't trying to make the hard sell. This isn't the kind of watch I have ever been in the market for (sadly) so I couldn't say what a reasonable price is. He told me that he came up with that number because the same watch with original dial had recently sold at auction for 180k, and he essentially halved that price cause you pay a lot of fees at auction obviously (buyer and seller) and because of the redial.

The best part of the $5 story is that wasn't the only thing in the bag. He said he got a first release Hamilton Ventura that just needed a battery and a 1940s Cartier men's Tank that just needed to be wound!

Kyu · 10 October 2012, 06:34 AM

well for 85k I'd rather just get another PT watch,
Mainly because I love PT now

Watchflair · 10 October 2012, 06:36 AM

Wow thats pretty wild. I guess anything is possible if the person doesn't know the value. I am suprised though it saying Rolex that the person wouldn't recognize it as something of value... but who knows.

77T · 10 October 2012, 06:37 AM

Fascinating piece even with the refinished dial.

Brushpup · 10 October 2012, 06:39 AM

My God, in a bag....what LUCK!

Thanks for sharing your day out with us. Very cool!

MonBK · 10 October 2012, 06:40 AM

The Rolex crown really looks misplaced on the dial.

Kingair · 10 October 2012, 06:45 AM

I really love the vintage Rolex . . . but not this one in particular . . .

Who knows in a year from here . . . ?

HAGOne

finnluck · 10 October 2012, 07:03 AM

I couldn't get a pic closer with decent focus with my phone camera. The crown on the dial may be a bit off. I didn't scrutinize the dial that closely since he said it was a redial right off the bat. For a very brief moment, I thought that this was going to be my amazing deal of a lifetime. Like people who find Renoir's hidden behind crappy paintings at garage sales. When I asked him the price and he said 85, I thought for a split second he was going to say 85 hundred. I was developing this whole plan to fake haggle to avoid raising suspicions. Suffice it to say in my mind's eye, I was going to play the whole thing VERY slick. Then he said thosand and alas it wasn't meant to be.

Time2time · 10 October 2012, 07:08 AM

Cracking find.

Some sceptical people on here eh?

Mephist · 10 October 2012, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnluck

The best part of the $5 story is that wasn't the only thing in the bag. He said he got a first release Hamilton Ventura that just needed a battery and a 1940s Cartier men's Tank that just needed to be wound!

With that luck tell him to pick out some lotto numbers for you. You will surly win!

It is a cool Rolex, but not 85k cool, in my opinion.

Trouble15 · 10 October 2012, 07:24 AM

Interesting, the luck some come across!

crowncollection · 10 October 2012, 07:32 AM

nice watch but not worth 85k imho

FremStar · 10 October 2012, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnluck

He said he had turned down more than one offer for 35k, and he knew that I was not playing anywhere near that level, so he wasn't trying to make the hard sell. This isn't the kind of watch I have ever been in the market for (sadly) so I couldn't say what a reasonable price is. He told me that he came up with that number because the same watch with original dial had recently sold at auction for 180k, and he essentially halved that price cause you pay a lot of fees at auction obviously (buyer and seller) and because of the redial.

The best part of the $5 story is that wasn't the only thing in the bag. He said he got a first release Hamilton Ventura that just needed a battery and a 1940s Cartier men's Tank that just needed to be wound!

This 6263 that was grabbed for $5 is often referred to as the Jean-Claude Killy Rolex, two have traded private hands recently that I am very aware of and from research one was sold at Antiquorum in 2011 for roughly $157k. Jon (legacytime) who sells here actually had an original one posted here for $85k. The simple fact that the dial your guy has is repainted will drive the price down by at least $20-$25k (this is not even factoring if the guts are all original)... Nonetheless a great find!!!

If you scored it for $8,500 that would have been the deal of the century... I could be wrong, however, there are some font and hand differences on the model you have shown us... Still nice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Time2time

Cracking find.

Some sceptical people on here eh?

I am actually happy for the gent who was able to score that in a grab bag for $5, I guess these things actually happen. I don't discuss vintage as much on this forum, however, I am intune with the prices and what this will command... See my response above ;-)

doubleinfive · 10 October 2012, 07:36 AM

Until he sells it for $85k or whatever amount, it's still worth $5...

MonBK · 10 October 2012, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleinfive

Until he sells it for $85k or whatever amount, it's still worth $5...

I think until he sells it IT IS worth 85k.

FremStar · 10 October 2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleinfive

Until he sells it for $85k or whatever amount, it's still worth $5...

If all checks out this is a premier vintage reference... This would be snatched up at a Sotheby's auction in seconds...

77T · 10 October 2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Time2time

Cracking find.

Some sceptical people on here eh?

Better to Be Skeptical Than Sanguine About New Barn Finds

You'll Keep More of Your Treasure!

Art 1 · 10 October 2012, 07:41 AM

Interesting.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 10 October 2012, 07:54 AM

What a lucky man - ELP.

cheers:

NYCrussino · 10 October 2012, 07:58 AM

Why doesn't this ever happen to me?!?

Good find!

slim4511 · 10 October 2012, 07:59 AM

Way cool.

joe100 · 10 October 2012, 08:01 AM

Very neat to see!

caryyee · 10 October 2012, 09:06 AM

Whatever it's worth, whether 185k, 85k or 8.5k, when it was acquired for $5, it's a superb return whatever way you look at it!

10 October 2012, 06:18 AM	#1
finnluck Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wisconsin Watch: 14060M COSC Posts: 24	Something you don't see every day My fiance is temporarily doing a work assignment in LaCrosse, Wi (we usually live in the Madison area.), and so I'm here visiting on my day off and decide to bum about town. As I always do when in a new town, I look up stores that have pre-owned watches and happen on an estate sale store. I go in and it's your classic estate stale store, shelves and tables full of random stuff etc. I ask the guy running the place about watches and he takes me back to a surprisingly well stocked display case with a few vintage oysters and oyster dates, some lecoultre's, early chronoswiss and movado chronographs, but the real shocker is the beauty attached. 1950's, pre daytona day date chronograph. Dial is refinished, though faithful to the original. He's asking 85k, or would like to purchase an original dial for up to 20k if anyone has one on hand :). This is way out of my price range, but if anyone is in the market, I would be happy to pass on your phone number to him The best part though, is how it came into his hands. He was on a road trip through the dakota's, stopped at and antique shop and bought it for FIVE DOLLARS in a bag (literally a bag) that the owner was selling for parts cause the weren't running. WOW. Why don't those kinds of things happen to me? Attached Images

10 October 2012, 06:25 AM	#5
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	$85k is not the correct price for that bad boy with a repainted dial... $5 really? __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

10 October 2012, 06:37 AM	#9
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,015	Fascinating piece even with the refinished dial. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

10 October 2012, 06:39 AM	#10
Brushpup "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Patrick Location: Texas Watch: what I'm wearing Posts: 5,943	My God, in a bag....what LUCK! Thanks for sharing your day out with us. Very cool! __________________ *TRFs "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron-Founding Member* PClub # 10 74,592 The safest place for your watch is on your wrist.

10 October 2012, 07:32 AM	#17
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	nice watch but not worth 85k imho __________________ watches many

10 October 2012, 06:20 AM	#2
Kyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: yes.. it's Kyu Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116759SANR Posts: 1,499	i wished i can see that everyday

10 October 2012, 06:21 AM	#3
gregdolley Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Greg Dolley Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rose Gold Daytona Posts: 1,283	Damn, good find!! For Rolex - so you guys USED to have the day and month on a chrono, and you took it out?!

10 October 2012, 06:23 AM	#4
Painter "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Jesse K Location: Stockholm Watch: 18078 + Speedy Posts: 673	Really Nice!!!

10 October 2012, 06:34 AM	#6
finnluck Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wisconsin Watch: 14060M COSC Posts: 24	He said he had turned down more than one offer for 35k, and he knew that I was not playing anywhere near that level, so he wasn't trying to make the hard sell. This isn't the kind of watch I have ever been in the market for (sadly) so I couldn't say what a reasonable price is. He told me that he came up with that number because the same watch with original dial had recently sold at auction for 180k, and he essentially halved that price cause you pay a lot of fees at auction obviously (buyer and seller) and because of the redial. The best part of the $5 story is that wasn't the only thing in the bag. He said he got a first release Hamilton Ventura that just needed a battery and a 1940s Cartier men's Tank that just needed to be wound!

10 October 2012, 06:36 AM	#8
Watchflair 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: Love em all Posts: 5,920	Wow thats pretty wild. I guess anything is possible if the person doesn't know the value. I am suprised though it saying Rolex that the person wouldn't recognize it as something of value... but who knows.

10 October 2012, 06:40 AM	#11
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	The Rolex crown really looks misplaced on the dial.

10 October 2012, 06:45 AM	#12
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	I really love the vintage Rolex . . . but not this one in particular . . . Who knows in a year from here . . . ? HAGOne

10 October 2012, 07:03 AM	#13
finnluck Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wisconsin Watch: 14060M COSC Posts: 24	I couldn't get a pic closer with decent focus with my phone camera. The crown on the dial may be a bit off. I didn't scrutinize the dial that closely since he said it was a redial right off the bat. For a very brief moment, I thought that this was going to be my amazing deal of a lifetime. Like people who find Renoir's hidden behind crappy paintings at garage sales. When I asked him the price and he said 85, I thought for a split second he was going to say 85 hundred. I was developing this whole plan to fake haggle to avoid raising suspicions. Suffice it to say in my mind's eye, I was going to play the whole thing VERY slick. Then he said thosand and alas it wasn't meant to be.

10 October 2012, 07:08 AM	#14
Time2time Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: U.K Watch: Milgauss GV, Sub-C Posts: 2,178	Cracking find. Some sceptical people on here eh?

10 October 2012, 07:24 AM	#16
Trouble15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: USA Watch: A few Posts: 8,883	Interesting, the luck some come across!

10 October 2012, 07:36 AM	#19
doubleinfive "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: CA Posts: 655	Until he sells it for $85k or whatever amount, it's still worth $5...

10 October 2012, 07:41 AM	#23
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	Interesting.

10 October 2012, 07:54 AM	#24
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	What a lucky man - ELP. cheers: __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

10 October 2012, 07:58 AM	#25
NYCrussino "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NYC Watch: 16610 Posts: 214	Why doesn't this ever happen to me?!? Good find!

10 October 2012, 07:59 AM	#26
slim4511 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 484	Way cool. __________________ GMT IIc, Exp II, Speedy Pro If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.

10 October 2012, 08:01 AM	#27
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Very neat to see! __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

10 October 2012, 09:06 AM	#28
caryyee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: A Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,180	Whatever it's worth, whether 185k, 85k or 8.5k, when it was acquired for $5, it's a superb return whatever way you look at it!

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