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BaileyMc · 11 December 2012, 12:52 AM

Hi All
I'd like to buy a Submariner for my husband's xmas present. After tons of research (thanks to all the help on here), I've got it down to three very similar quality watches at very similar prices - only the year of manufacture is different.

One is 1997, one is 1998 and one is 2000/1

With all else being similar (they all have boxes and original paperwork), which one would you recommend I go for?

Thanks in advance

Wllnv19 · 11 December 2012, 01:01 AM

With all things being equal I would go with the newer of the three.

nick c · 11 December 2012, 01:03 AM

2000\2001 sub 16610

TimeToGo · 11 December 2012, 01:03 AM

Welcome to the Forum!

Condition, service history, and price should be taken into consideration as well.

padi56 · 11 December 2012, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BaileyMc

Hi All
I'd like to buy a Submariner for my husband's xmas present. After tons of research (thanks to all the help on here), I've got it down to three very similar quality watches at very similar prices - only the year of manufacture is different.

One is 1997, one is 1998 and one is 2000/1

With all else being similar (they all have boxes and original paperwork), which one would you recommend I go for?

Thanks in advance

Well depending if the submariner has a date it will be a 16610 which was first introduced in 1988 with the cal 3135 movement.Now this model has remained basically unchanged over the years right up till 2010.So its possible the 1997/8 models would have tritium lume so glow now will be almost gone.Now the 2000/1 would be luminover type lume that does not lose its glow plus expect that model would have a SEL solid end link bracelet a far better design.Now if its a non date sub ref 14060 the movement would be the cal 3000.Now if its a 2000/1 model it will most probably be the 14060M the M stands for modified and will have the cal 3130 movement but all good watches.If no service history it would be prudent to budget soon for a full service around £400 then watch will be almost like new with a full two year warranty.

Andrés G · 11 December 2012, 01:05 AM

Get the newer one.

Armyguy03 · 11 December 2012, 01:21 AM

Newer & Brand New NATOs as a bonus.

Rocco22 · 11 December 2012, 01:47 AM

Newer one.

sea-dweller · 11 December 2012, 01:49 AM

Newest one, provided that everything (service history, condition, complete accessories included, etc) checks out.

BaileyMc · 11 December 2012, 01:50 AM

Thank you so much for your advice, esp Padi56 - brilliant!

kilyung · 11 December 2012, 02:06 AM

All being equal? Newest.

Tools · 11 December 2012, 02:14 AM

As Padi mentioned, depends on if it's the Sub, or the Sub Date you're talking about..

The Sub didn't have any real changes at all between those years except for the tritium vs Luminova lume, so get the one in the best condition for the price.

If it's the Sub Date, there are some advantages to the 2001 that are entirely about the bracelet.. If it has the SEL 93250 bracelet, it is the better choice if all else is equal. If not, again, get the best condition for the price as these years are all the same but the lume.

mjclark32 · 11 December 2012, 02:27 AM

I'd get the one with most recent service

Brushpup · 11 December 2012, 02:28 AM

I vote for newer as well. I'm sure he would like it more if the lume glows at night.

porschejeff · 11 December 2012, 02:29 AM

Typically the newer one, but, make sure that also includes the box, papers, outer box, etc. Those have value if the watch is ever sold or traded.

MATCH1969 · 11 December 2012, 02:30 AM

new one for every day use LN or LV (LV is really nice) and 5513 or 12 because of the history

imono · 11 December 2012, 03:42 AM

And please make sure you buy it from a reliable source.

11 December 2012, 12:52 AM	#1
BaileyMc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2	Advice on which year submariner to buy Hi All I'd like to buy a Submariner for my husband's xmas present. After tons of research (thanks to all the help on here), I've got it down to three very similar quality watches at very similar prices - only the year of manufacture is different. One is 1997, one is 1998 and one is 2000/1 With all else being similar (they all have boxes and original paperwork), which one would you recommend I go for? Thanks in advance

11 December 2012, 01:21 AM	#7
Armyguy03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: DM[V] Watch: 16710 \| 16600 Posts: 3,546	Newer & Brand New NATOs as a bonus. __________________ Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

11 December 2012, 02:14 AM	#12
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	As Padi mentioned, depends on if it's the Sub, or the Sub Date you're talking about.. The Sub didn't have any real changes at all between those years except for the tritium vs Luminova lume, so get the one in the best condition for the price. If it's the Sub Date, there are some advantages to the 2001 that are entirely about the bracelet.. If it has the SEL 93250 bracelet, it is the better choice if all else is equal. If not, again, get the best condition for the price as these years are all the same but the lume. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

11 December 2012, 02:27 AM	#13
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	I'd get the one with most recent service __________________

11 December 2012, 02:28 AM	#14
Brushpup "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Patrick Location: Texas Watch: what I'm wearing Posts: 5,943	I vote for newer as well. I'm sure he would like it more if the lume glows at night. __________________ *TRFs "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron-Founding Member* PClub # 10 74,592 The safest place for your watch is on your wrist.

11 December 2012, 01:01 AM	#2
Wllnv19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Willie Location: Parkland,Fl. Posts: 4,829	With all things being equal I would go with the newer of the three.

11 December 2012, 01:03 AM	#3
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	2000\2001 sub 16610

11 December 2012, 01:03 AM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Welcome to the Forum! Condition, service history, and price should be taken into consideration as well.

11 December 2012, 01:05 AM	#6
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,392	Get the newer one.

11 December 2012, 01:47 AM	#8
Rocco22 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mass/Vegas/disney Watch: Hulk,114060,14060 Posts: 929	Newer one.

11 December 2012, 01:49 AM	#9
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Newest one, provided that everything (service history, condition, complete accessories included, etc) checks out.

11 December 2012, 01:50 AM	#10
BaileyMc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2	Thank you so much for your advice, esp Padi56 - brilliant!

11 December 2012, 02:06 AM	#11
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	All being equal? Newest.

11 December 2012, 02:29 AM	#15
porschejeff "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Michigan Watch: DD 228238 Posts: 2,460	Typically the newer one, but, make sure that also includes the box, papers, outer box, etc. Those have value if the watch is ever sold or traded.

11 December 2012, 02:30 AM	#16
MATCH1969 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: PARIS Watch: Vintage Posts: 2,761	new one for every day use LN or LV (LV is really nice) and 5513 or 12 because of the history

11 December 2012, 03:42 AM	#17
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	And please make sure you buy it from a reliable source.

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