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Old 9 February 2013, 12:46 AM   #151
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If I'm honest, I can't really sympathize with you. Be happy you have a gold Rolex.
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Old 9 February 2013, 12:49 AM   #152
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Oh I'm well capable of that. I'm also well aware its a really dirty world businesswise today [and look at the F,,,ing mess its got us into -
Its just I really do appreciate the old school gentlemanly way of conducting ethical business!

Re your other comments:

Would have to politely disagree, watches do not have year models as cars, so your analogy in this regard does not fly.
Totally disagree - If that is the case WTF is everyone going on about the unofficial alphbetic year list and applying a value to it!

If the OP knew what he wanted and did his homework, he would've realized what was offered to him and only then, a negotiation would take place. No business will offer you a discount up straight without asking for it and based on facts can vary.
Sorry - I did my home work and specified exactly what I wanted, I did not even ask for a discount what I wanted was a perfect watch, and went further to specifically state on the order that I wanted a completely new build stright from factory etc. not been lying around in a shop store room.

I am sure when this dealer got the watch in he would have thought er this is not this years serial number , lets check if its 2001 oh my god its 1991 . Hey this is exactly what my customer wanted to avoid! I better be honest with him . The fact he used his professional knowledge to blindside me is what I am annoyed about


He did not buy it in person nor did he know the AD.
As you can imagine from the length of this post do you think I didnt speak to them at some length prior to shipping the money!. And no you are right I didn't personally walk into the shop I sent my wife to collect it. Oh I guess its OK in your book to con the wife, if you can, if the guy you are doing business with just happens not to be there!
Again, you are using unacceptable phrases you are also putting negative assumptions on others. I will refrain replying in those depths out of respect not only to TRF but myself.
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Old 9 February 2013, 12:50 AM   #153
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I'm going to advocate that the OP just sell the watch and STFU at this point... Beyond that I don't see you gaining much sympathy here.
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Old 9 February 2013, 01:05 AM   #154
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My guideline on these sorts of threads is that if I have nothing useful to add or if I'm at all tempted to get snarky, I just say nothing. If the OP is asking for opinions, it is possible to provide them without being rude.

The OP thought he got something less than what he wanted, after expending quite a bit of effort to try to ensure he got what he wanted. What he wanted might have been difficult to obtain or may strike some as being unreasonable. Fine. If that is what folks want to say, then just say it and leave it at that.

Folks can disagree and still be polite; it seems like such sort of discourse is more and more a lost art.
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Old 9 February 2013, 01:06 AM   #155
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She then said "you have a 2002 watch as that is what the warranty card says". I presssed her, fine but when was it built?
What I can tell you is this watch was shipped to us Rolex Germany in the last quarter 2001 and we shipped it to your dealer in early March 2002!
So that is not quite what the UK person said to me - she said it was shipped to Rolex German in 2002, but its manaufacture could be 2001 or 2002.
The lady in Rolex germany then said often the specialist watches like this could have the blank case made some time before; but only have the movement fitted and the watch completed just before the units are sent out to the AD's. I can see the possibility of that happening.
SPECIALIST watches??? really? just because its a Sub in Gold???
Rolex pumps out a million watches a year, so i doubt they're just pumping out blank cases and wait for a lonely AD to request a movement put in for a gold sub.

i think its more realistic that the watch sat at Rolex and was shipped to your AD when you placed the order. warranty doesn't start until papers are dated so in effect, the manufacture date is irrelevant.
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Old 9 February 2013, 01:09 AM   #156
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My guideline on these sorts of threads is that if I have nothing useful to add or if I'm at all tempted to get snarky, I just say nothing. If the OP is asking for opinions, it is possible to provide them without being rude.

The OP thought he got something less than what he wanted, after expending quite a bit of effort to try to ensure he got what he wanted. What he wanted might have been difficult to obtain or may strike some as being unreasonable. Fine. If that is what folks want to say, then just say it and leave it at that.

Folks can disagree and still be polite; it seems like such sort of discourse is more and more a lost art.
The guy has been wearing the watch for over ten years!! He's loved every second of it. NOW he's questioning the year it was manufactured? Can you see why people would be a little annoyed? However I'm saying all this in a very polite voice.......
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Old 9 February 2013, 01:43 AM   #157
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The guy has been wearing the watch for over ten years!! He's loved every second of it. NOW he's questioning the year it was manufactured? Can you see why people would be a little annoyed? However I'm saying all this in a very polite voice.......
....whilst sitting on the can, apparently....
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Old 9 February 2013, 02:15 AM   #158
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To proof anything official we want to see pictures of certificates, signatures, letters from Rolex, anything relevant, Hans holding your Gold Sub etc...
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Old 9 February 2013, 02:18 AM   #159
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To proof anything official we want to see pictures of certificates, signatures, letters from Rolex, anything relevant, Hans holding your Gold Sub etc...
Likwise otherwise this thread will be closed.
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Old 9 February 2013, 02:37 AM   #160
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To proof anything official we want to see pictures of certificates, signatures, letters from Rolex, anything relevant, Hans holding your Gold Sub etc...
I asked for that already in post #128.
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Old 9 February 2013, 02:47 AM   #161
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Wait guys, don't you remember yesterday he said he needed to charge his camera battery? His charger is probably where all the certificates, signatures, and the picture of Hans holding his gold watch is......
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Old 9 February 2013, 03:06 AM   #162
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OP needs some happy pills...sheesh, after reading this 6 page threat..I need some too!
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Old 9 February 2013, 03:11 AM   #163
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The way I see it is this - As long as the watch was never owned to the point where it'd be considered used .. I.E traded in, ETC.. It is a brand new watch. Just because it's a 1993 model doesn't make it a non new watch as long as it's been in a warehouse and/or the AD's display case. I don't see anywhere in your posts that you specifically asked the AD the year the watch was manufactured. Also, it doesn't appear that the store you bought it from is even open anymore .. it must not have been the most upstanding place to begin with. I've seen plenty of jewlery stores etc that have an "Rolex Authorized Dealer sign" in the window or within the place... I mean you've been wearing it for at least a decade without complaints and now you want some sort of compensation.. I have a deep suspicion of this whole story from start to finish.

What is your true motive to get to the bottom of this .. you've presented an issue to people who range from Newbies to Aficionados .. our opinions all vary and some may be a more rough than others. I think you should let it go and just move the hell on already.. As others have said.. text is only going so far.. present some photos for those with knowedge to make a final judgement in this situation
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Old 9 February 2013, 03:23 AM   #164
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It all sounds like he's trying to sell a 1992 serial watch for a 2002 serial money..
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Old 9 February 2013, 03:24 AM   #165
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this has been real and all, but I am out of here on this one.

i have taken all a man of my limited patience can take.

i do wish the OP will find happiness and contentment with this issue.
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