Any Rolex models with zero gold content?

[Xk500]

Heard that Muslims male are not allowed to wear gold. I don't know if it's true but from what I think it has to do with the message that you should not give up your family for materialistic goods. I could be wrong.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Xk500

Heard that Muslims male are not allowed to wear gold. I don't know if it's true but from what I think it has to do with the message that you should not give up your family for materialistic goods. I could be wrong.

Did you go directly to the last page without reading the thread?

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Did you go directly to the last page without reading the thread?

Or . . . .

HAGOne Mon

[A.Sharp]

I've read the responses and didn't see it mentioned so here:

From what I have understood, no expert here, GMTIIC in SS has platinum filled in for the numbers in the ceramic bezel, and markers are also made of platinum... if this is correct, I feel like that may be a great choice for you.

Anyone agree with this?

[HRV]

Interesting thread though, I still learn something everyday

[shofzr]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

May I add, that the movement bridges are partly gold-plated.
The base material may be a kind of brass, which is then nickel-plated, but where you can see the gold numbers (reference and number of jewels etc.), it seems to be goldplated.

I am not sure, if plating does apply to the religious ban though.

However I doubt that the microstella screws are out of gold. The balance and the nuts may be plated, but solid does not make much sense as it makes the balance much heavier.

I am not sure, if the dial markers and the hands on the YM (platinum dial) are made out of Pt as well.
I would assume this to the Pt hallmarked dial because WG markers would certainly violate many laws worldwide then.

The Microstella nuts are in fact GOLD not plated.
The weight of the gold is used to change the balance wheel moment of inertia.
If you have a credible source saying the Microstella nuts are made of some other material, please share,
Cheers.


http://baselworldpresskit.rolex.com/...mariner_EN.pdf

[Jason71]

Originally Posted by shofzr

The OP is trying to get facts about gold content of Rolex watches, I would think someone who is a moderator on a Rolex forum would want to state facts, not misinformation about Rolex.

Fact: the Microstella nuts are made from gold not plated.

Here is a link to one of my sources stating they are GOLD, do you have a credible source to the contrary?
Cheers.

http://baselworldpresskit.rolex.com/...mariner_EN.pdf

Pretty darn disrespectful. Doesn't really matter what the moderator is stating on this forum.....you don't disrespect. I don't see you lasting very long around here

[MartinF79]

Originally Posted by mlotus95

Finally someone using common sense. "It is not allowed for Muslim men to wear Gold or silk. This is per teaching of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to guard Muslim men against feeling proud or feeling more prestigious than others and to encourage Muslim men to use their income in something useful for their societies than having gold."
So with being said any Rolex would really represent wealth and be forbidden in modern times. This among many other luxeries would be forbidden by Muhammad

If what you're saying is true... any form of "wealth" should not be worn/purchased in order to adhere w/ the teachings of islam. Only applying this rule to "gold/silk" is a bit archaic (as those were deemed to be the "luxury" items of the day). Techinically speaking... any luxury good (BMW, Mercedes, Rolex, LV, Gucci, etc....) should be avoided.

I'm clearly not trying to advise you on how to live up to your religious beliefs, but the rational side of me has a hard time understading the logic behind not wearing gold/silk today, however all otehr precious/luxury items are okay... simply on the basis that they did not exisit hundreds of years ago.

Clearly trying to be restpeful in sharing my 2 cents... however I think its important for everyone to think about why certain decisions/beliefs exist as opposed to simply accepting them as they are...

[shofzr]

Originally Posted by Jason71

Pretty darn disrespectful. Doesn't really matter what the moderator is stating on this forum.....you don't disrespect. I don't see you lasting very long around here

Well do you want a forum with correct information? Or just take some guys word for it moderator or not?

If you have better information please present it to all of us.
Cheers.

[DrLindaPhD]

There are many nice vintage Stainless Steel (no gold). But, as a history and religion buff, if you are talking about the Islam religion isn't the prohibition against gold or silver so that you would not be able to have any silver parts in the watch, either, correct? Don't some of the movements contain silver or gold? I know they contain titanium but maybe not gold or silver. Just curious. Interesting topic.

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by shofzr

The OP is trying to get facts about gold content of Rolex watches, I would think someone who is a moderator on a Rolex forum would want to state facts, not misinformation about Rolex.

Fact: the Microstella nuts are made from gold not plated.

Here is a link to one of my sources stating they are GOLD, do you have a credible source to the contrary?
Cheers.

http://baselworldpresskit.rolex.com/...mariner_EN.pdf

Hey buddy, he's just stating his understanding as he best knows it. He may not be always correct, big deal.

We're here as moderators to kick ass.

Padi is good at it as am I.

[Kingair]

Didn't we actually had the same question some months ago ?

HAGOne

[The GMT Master]

OP, unfortunately gold is the material of choice for hands and dial indices for most luxury watch manufacturers. I know for a fact Omega use gold, and I'm fairly sure that pretty much anything else high-end will use gold as well. I think you may struggle, I'm afraid

[shofzr]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Hey buddy, he's just stating his understanding as he best knows it. He may not be always correct, big deal.

We're here as moderators to kick ass.

Padi is good at it as am I.

I agree Padi is quite good, I happen to agree with him 99% of the time.
I just thought in this case the OP has a serious question and came to this forum for knowledge. I would feel bad if he went against his religion due to being misinformed.

So if you moderators want to "kick ass" for attempting to help a forum member with a serious question.. Well then so be it.

Cheers.

[Alpino]

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Regarding white dial 42mm Explorer II hands, this document confirms that hands are made of gold and then painted.

It also confirm that microstella nuts are made of gold.


It's in French, sorry I don't have the English version of this Basel 2011 presentation of the watch.


* "4 ecrous microstella en or" : 4 Gold microstella nuts

** "Aiguilles Or gris,larges revidées, laquées noires" : Hands White Gold, large ??? , black lacquered

[mannyv11]

/popcorn

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by A.Sharp

I've read the responses and didn't see it mentioned so here:

From what I have understood, no expert here, GMTIIC in SS has platinum filled in for the numbers in the ceramic bezel, and markers are also made of platinum... if this is correct, I feel like that may be a great choice for you.

Anyone agree with this?

My understanding is while the bezel numerals are indeed filled with platinum, the hands are still WG and not platinum. Now I'm not sure about the surrounds, I thought they were WG as well but maybe not.

[MonBK]

[QUOTE=Alpino;4018976].

Regarding white dial 42mm Explorer II hands, this document confirms that hands are made of gold and then painted.

It also confirm that microstella nuts are made of gold.


It's in French, sorry I don't have the English version of this Basel 2011 presentation of the watch.


QUOTE]


It is posted above in English: http://baselworldpresskit.rolex.com/...mariner_EN.pdf

[Rolexis]

Originally Posted by kilyung

IBTL

Only the Sheikh of Arabia can have gold you see undermining people to give the Sheikh all the gold.

[Alpino]

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Now to clarify on Platinum models , this extract of price list UK this year :

It looks like OP won't find any Rolex corresponding to his willings.

[frambo]

Originally Posted by hosam112

Hey guys, any one aware of any Rolex Models with zero white or yellow gold content at all? I want a watch that has NOOO white or yellow gold at all!

Out of interest as far as I was aware (from speaking to some of my friends who are of religions that forbid the wearing of gold) the reason for not wearing gold is so as not to flaunt, not to spend money on highly expensive materials and to encourage equality.

Am I right?

EDIT: My apologies, I didn't read the entire thread first.

From what I've now understood, technically, saying no to Yellow / White Gold should also imply that Platinum is even more expensive, regarding the whole wealth and necessary expense thing.

I didn't realise it was a gender issue as well- so to clarify, is it okay to Muslim women to wear gold?

Thanks

[Chris B]

Originally Posted by Alpino

.

Now to clarify on Platinum models , this extract of price list UK this year :

It looks like OP won't find any Rolex corresponding to his willings.

Thanks for sharing

[Alpino]

Originally Posted by MonBK

It is posted above in English: http://baselworldpresskit.rolex.com/...mariner_EN.pdf

Your link doesn't work, and It seems to adress Submariner, not Explorer II .

[chicfarmer1]

[QUOTE by Rolexis]Only the Sheikh of Arabia can have gold you see undermining people to give the Sheikh all the gold. [QUOTE]

^Are you begging for it?
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OP, I hope you've found useful info.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by frambo

is it okay to Muslim women to wear gold?

Thanks

Yes

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by Alpino

* "4 ecrous microstella en or" : 4 Gold microstella nuts

** "Aiguilles Or gris,larges revidées, laquées noires" : Hands White Gold, large ??? , black lacquered

Originally Posted by Alpino

Now to clarify on Platinum models , this extract of price list UK this year :

It looks like OP won't find any Rolex corresponding to his willings.

Nicely presented facts!

[adamlea]

Originally Posted by Jason71

He's 21.......do you think he can afford a $40,000+ platinum model???

Who am I to judge? Maybe he can . . .

[77T]

Sorry I've been away from this thread for a while...anything interesting happen?

I believe the technical answers are fairly complete regarding the gold content in even a SS Rolex.

The Islamic restrictions about a man and gold is not meant to forbid ownership per se - it is about not using gold as adornment.

For the OP, the best answer may be to take the question to your group of trusted Mullahs and ask an opinion. Show that the dial has small bits of gold to mark the hours and gold hands used to avoid tarnishing.

I think they can give the best answer about the gold - and then they can weigh-in about the brand itself being considered a luxurious adornment or an accurate functional timepiece.

Peace to all

[Brenngun]

Originally Posted by shofzr

The OP is trying to get facts about gold content of Rolex watches, I would think someone who is a moderator on a Rolex forum would want to state facts, not misinformation about Rolex.

Fact: the Microstella nuts are made from gold not plated.

Here is a link to one of my sources stating they are GOLD, do you have a credible source to the contrary?
Cheers.

http://baselworldpresskit.rolex.com/...mariner_EN.pdf

Originally Posted by shofzr

The Microstella nuts are in fact GOLD not plated.
The weight of the gold is used to change the balance wheel moment of inertia.
If you have a credible source saying the Microstella nuts are made of some other material, please share,
Cheers.


http://baselworldpresskit.rolex.com/...mariner_EN.pdf

Originally Posted by shofzr

Well do you want a forum with correct information? Or just take some guys word for it moderator or not?

If you have better information please present it to all of us.
Cheers.

Adrian. Can I respectfully ask you to take a deep breath and relax. We all want facts but the issue with your first post above was about your approach.

Compare these first 2 posts. Obviously the 1st was very condescending & confrontational. It presumed Padi purposely stated misinformation and you felt the need to admonish him for not being 100% correct at all times because he's a moderator.

Next time I suggest you respond similar to your second post. State facts & show supporting documentation. Do this without direct confrontation or your opinion of previous poster's capabilities. Above all avoid the kind of dumb arse comments like Hank's below.

Originally Posted by Rolexis

Only the Sheikh of Arabia can have gold you see undermining people to give the Sheikh all the gold.

[Welshwatchman]

.... and finally, closed.