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Macro · 2 May 2013, 04:05 AM

There are many posts about not wearing a dive watch or chrono with a lounge suit to the office and I don't want to start a new one.

I am mindful though that there is a minority of people who notice what watch you wear, and a minority of these who will tut if you wear a diver or chrono or steel bracelet with a suit, and TBH this does influence my decisions to some extent.

I love the Sub Date 116610LN, but would never wear a £5700 watch in the sea or on the beach, and would probably think twice about wearing a big dive watch with a suit.

The question then, before I part with any money, is whether an Explorer II - either 16570 or the new 42mm ref and specifically a black dial - are more versatile and suitable to wear with a lounge suit to the office, or are there any sticklers who would be affronted by this?

travisb · 2 May 2013, 04:10 AM

I wouldn't hesitate to wear it. Suit or no suit..

JP Chestnut · 2 May 2013, 04:12 AM

Are you a "no brown in town" kind of UK guy? If so, I'd skip the Explorer 2 and consider something more formal. If not, the black dial Explorer 2 would probably be fine (not with black tie of course).

fishingbear · 2 May 2013, 04:15 AM

I feel that the previous 16570 model works better for dress particularly with the black dial and wg hands. The newer 42mm just seems more sporty with the orange hand and large hands and markers.
With that being said, I wouldn't hesitate wearing either model anytime dress or casual.

JP Chestnut · 2 May 2013, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishingbear

I feel that the previous 16570 model works better for dress particularly with the black dial and wg hands. The newer 42mm just seems more sporty with the orange hand and large hands and markers.

I agree with that.

Ravager135 · 2 May 2013, 04:34 AM

Personally I think any Rolex can be worn with a suit. I do however think the Explorer II is the most casual of all the Rolex sport watches with the Submariner only slightly ahead of it. If you want a suit watch that is still tough, just get a Datejust or do what I did and get a Milgauss.

mrhy · 2 May 2013, 04:37 AM

I think they all look just fine with a suit

Elusion · 2 May 2013, 05:59 AM

I'd agree that the ExpII is more casual than other Rolex's and would say it's actually less versatile but it would still look just fine with a suit.
I think any all metal (precious or otherwise) watch with white or black dial looks great with a suit.
But a true "Dress watch" is simple and has a leather band IMHO.

Cru Jones · 2 May 2013, 06:29 AM

IMHO, the 16570 is more dress up/dress down than the 216570, which is more dress down (which is not a bad thing).

T. Ferguson · 2 May 2013, 07:10 AM

As long as your belt matches your shoes, almost any Rolex can be worn to the office. Formal wear is a whole other debate.

FremStar · 2 May 2013, 07:42 AM

As a fan of the whole Explorer line I can comfortably say that either can be worn up or down... Your watch, your cash, do you really care what others think? As long as it makes you smile when you strap it on is all that matters! Here are some pics!

Good luck!

Annan · 2 May 2013, 07:43 AM

What?!

adamlea · 2 May 2013, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisb

I wouldn't hesitate to wear it. Suit or no suit..

x2

nauticajoe · 2 May 2013, 09:15 AM

Wear it to enjoy it. Rolexes are good for any occasion.

Macro · 4 May 2013, 12:42 AM

I was thinking of the black dial 16570 specifically which I would say is more dressy and more versatile than the Sub or old GMT-Master as it has no rotating bezel. Interesting that others think it is more casual than these.

There have been many threads in the past about not wearing dive watches or chronos with a suit, but none that I can recall about not wearing GMT watches with a suit, which led me to believe an older Explorer II might fit the bill.

For shirt and tie or lounge suit I don't think a proper dress watch is necessary.

I am going to try some on over the next few days and see how I feel.

Chewbacca · 4 May 2013, 01:07 AM

imo, there's no rule about watches and attire any more unless you live your life by what GQ says month-to-month. a watch is a personal item. it says a lot about the wearer and what they're interested in, and do when they're not in a suit or tux. its all personal preference. the only thing to consider is, wear a watch that fits and suits your body/wrist size.

sea-dweller · 4 May 2013, 01:27 AM

I think you can wear any Rolex with a suit and tie.

MartyMcFly · 4 May 2013, 01:34 AM

The new Polar Exp II actually goes very well with a suit. It provides a nice contrast and stays flat to the wrist.

Vincent65 · 4 May 2013, 01:36 AM

basically little to no difference between Sub and Exp II with regards to wearing to work, with suit. Both steel sports watches on bracelets

Rogdogg · 4 May 2013, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartyMcFly

The new Polar Exp II actually goes very well with a suit. It provides a nice contrast and stays flat to the wrist.

I agree with this. I've worn mine a few times with suits and looks great

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bighaole · 4 May 2013, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishingbear

I feel that the previous 16570 model works better for dress particularly with the black dial and wg hands. The newer 42mm just seems more sporty with the orange hand and large hands and markers.

I agree completely. I have a 16570 with white face and I always loved how it looked so good with a suit and also with shorts and a t-shirt. The big orange arrow definitely feels more casual, to me, but I don't think it would keep me from wearing it with a suit.

Consider the trend that the watch industry has gone through. 40mm SS Rolexes are smaller and more toned down than about 95% of watches out there.

FLY-DOG · 4 May 2013, 03:48 AM

The world is not nearly as formal as it were 30-40 years or so ago. If you are conservative, prefer a more formal dress watch and want to stick with the Rolex brand, then yes, there are better dress choices than a Rolex sport watch. Rolexes such as a Cellini, Datejust, Air-King, Explorer, etc., make a fine dress and casual watch. There are other brands too that make fine dress watches. Having said that, unless your mixing with truly snobbish and affluent upper crust folks, no one will consider you unsophisticated for wearing a Rolex sport watch in a suit only environment. Now a neon colored plastic watch….that’s another matter.

mrhy · 4 May 2013, 03:56 AM

Suit ,sea ,beach ............its all good

afc1 · 4 May 2013, 04:00 AM

I uses to have a 16570 explorer II and I actually prefer the look of my 14060m sub with a suit. You can wear either watch casual or dressed up but I think the sub looks better with a suit than the explorer.

Ichaice · 4 May 2013, 04:34 AM

I wear a Rolex, mainly my black dial 16570 with a suit three days a week.

Brandon(phila) · 4 May 2013, 05:08 AM

The days of the "dress watch" don't really exist anymore. So just about any Rolex, DJ, DJ II, Sub, Daytona, GMT, Sub and EXP's...works dress up or down.
Some go better with others, but overall it's all good. Most people these days wear sports watches 99% of the time

Now, I really do appreciate a nice "dress watch" ...thin...leather strap, gold (or SS)
I don't own one but I'm sure a PP Calatrava looks fantastic with a suit or Tux

77T · 4 May 2013, 05:13 AM

Buy a black lizard, croc or alligator strap and switch it with the bracelet when you think a strap fits the attire.

A silver bracelet and a business suit isn't a worry IMHO but your concerns can be managed with a strap option.

2 May 2013, 04:05 AM	#1
Macro Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 125	Exp II Question for Sticklers There are many posts about not wearing a dive watch or chrono with a lounge suit to the office and I don't want to start a new one. I am mindful though that there is a minority of people who notice what watch you wear, and a minority of these who will tut if you wear a diver or chrono or steel bracelet with a suit, and TBH this does influence my decisions to some extent. I love the Sub Date 116610LN, but would never wear a £5700 watch in the sea or on the beach, and would probably think twice about wearing a big dive watch with a suit. The question then, before I part with any money, is whether an Explorer II - either 16570 or the new 42mm ref and specifically a black dial - are more versatile and suitable to wear with a lounge suit to the office, or are there any sticklers who would be affronted by this?

2 May 2013, 07:10 AM	#10
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	As long as your belt matches your shoes, almost any Rolex can be worn to the office. Formal wear is a whole other debate. __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

2 May 2013, 07:42 AM	#11
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	As a fan of the whole Explorer line I can comfortably say that either can be worn up or down... Your watch, your cash, do you really care what others think? As long as it makes you smile when you strap it on is all that matters! Here are some pics! Good luck! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

2 May 2013, 07:43 AM	#12
Annan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: Arizona, USA Watch: 116233 Posts: 3,180	What?! Attached Images __________________ *so many Rolexes.....so little time*

4 May 2013, 04:00 AM	#24
afc1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boston Posts: 1,848	I uses to have a 16570 explorer II and I actually prefer the look of my 14060m sub with a suit. You can wear either watch casual or dressed up but I think the sub looks better with a suit than the explorer. __________________ afc1 Watch Collection: Rolex and AP

2 May 2013, 04:10 AM	#2
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,493	I wouldn't hesitate to wear it. Suit or no suit..

2 May 2013, 04:12 AM	#3
JP Chestnut Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ann Arbor MI Watch: Rolex Ref 16600 Posts: 3,908	Are you a "no brown in town" kind of UK guy? If so, I'd skip the Explorer 2 and consider something more formal. If not, the black dial Explorer 2 would probably be fine (not with black tie of course).

2 May 2013, 04:15 AM	#4
fishingbear 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: George Location: Alabama Watch: GMTsSubLVEx2SDDayt Posts: 4,549	I feel that the previous 16570 model works better for dress particularly with the black dial and wg hands. The newer 42mm just seems more sporty with the orange hand and large hands and markers. With that being said, I wouldn't hesitate wearing either model anytime dress or casual.

2 May 2013, 04:34 AM	#6
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,224	Personally I think any Rolex can be worn with a suit. I do however think the Explorer II is the most casual of all the Rolex sport watches with the Submariner only slightly ahead of it. If you want a suit watch that is still tough, just get a Datejust or do what I did and get a Milgauss.

2 May 2013, 04:37 AM	#7
mrhy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: new york Watch: Pepsi GMT Posts: 2,383	I think they all look just fine with a suit

2 May 2013, 05:59 AM	#8
Elusion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: US Watch: Speedy&Submariner Posts: 158	I'd agree that the ExpII is more casual than other Rolex's and would say it's actually less versatile but it would still look just fine with a suit. I think any all metal (precious or otherwise) watch with white or black dial looks great with a suit. But a true "Dress watch" is simple and has a leather band IMHO.

2 May 2013, 06:29 AM	#9
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,301	IMHO, the 16570 is more dress up/dress down than the 216570, which is more dress down (which is not a bad thing).

2 May 2013, 09:15 AM	#14
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Wear it to enjoy it. Rolexes are good for any occasion.

4 May 2013, 12:42 AM	#15
Macro Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 125	I was thinking of the black dial 16570 specifically which I would say is more dressy and more versatile than the Sub or old GMT-Master as it has no rotating bezel. Interesting that others think it is more casual than these. There have been many threads in the past about not wearing dive watches or chronos with a suit, but none that I can recall about not wearing GMT watches with a suit, which led me to believe an older Explorer II might fit the bill. For shirt and tie or lounge suit I don't think a proper dress watch is necessary. I am going to try some on over the next few days and see how I feel.

4 May 2013, 01:07 AM	#16
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	imo, there's no rule about watches and attire any more unless you live your life by what GQ says month-to-month. a watch is a personal item. it says a lot about the wearer and what they're interested in, and do when they're not in a suit or tux. its all personal preference. the only thing to consider is, wear a watch that fits and suits your body/wrist size.

4 May 2013, 01:27 AM	#17
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I think you can wear any Rolex with a suit and tie.

4 May 2013, 01:34 AM	#18
MartyMcFly "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New York Watch: Explorer II -Polar Posts: 32	The new Polar Exp II actually goes very well with a suit. It provides a nice contrast and stays flat to the wrist.

4 May 2013, 01:36 AM	#19
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	basically little to no difference between Sub and Exp II with regards to wearing to work, with suit. Both steel sports watches on bracelets

4 May 2013, 03:48 AM	#22
FLY-DOG Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Kerry Location: (GMT -5:00) Watch: 1991 Submariner Posts: 230	The world is not nearly as formal as it were 30-40 years or so ago. If you are conservative, prefer a more formal dress watch and want to stick with the Rolex brand, then yes, there are better dress choices than a Rolex sport watch. Rolexes such as a Cellini, Datejust, Air-King, Explorer, etc., make a fine dress and casual watch. There are other brands too that make fine dress watches. Having said that, unless your mixing with truly snobbish and affluent upper crust folks, no one will consider you unsophisticated for wearing a Rolex sport watch in a suit only environment. Now a neon colored plastic watch….that’s another matter.

4 May 2013, 03:56 AM	#23
mrhy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: new york Watch: Pepsi GMT Posts: 2,383	Suit ,sea ,beach ............its all good

4 May 2013, 04:34 AM	#25
Ichaice "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Earth Posts: 133	I wear a Rolex, mainly my black dial 16570 with a suit three days a week.

4 May 2013, 05:08 AM	#26
Brandon(phila) "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Brandon Location: Phila burbs Watch: DSSD Posts: 755	The days of the "dress watch" don't really exist anymore. So just about any Rolex, DJ, DJ II, Sub, Daytona, GMT, Sub and EXP's...works dress up or down. Some go better with others, but overall it's all good. Most people these days wear sports watches 99% of the time Now, I really do appreciate a nice "dress watch" ...thin...leather strap, gold (or SS) I don't own one but I'm sure a PP Calatrava looks fantastic with a suit or Tux

4 May 2013, 05:13 AM	#27
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	Buy a black lizard, croc or alligator strap and switch it with the bracelet when you think a strap fits the attire. A silver bracelet and a business suit isn't a worry IMHO but your concerns can be managed with a strap option. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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