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Old 4 July 2013, 01:57 AM   #1
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Could someone answer a question re: lug holes?

I will eventually get a Sub - either a 16610 or a 16613. To me, the Sub is a tool watch so I should go for the 16610, but the 16613 is just so beautiful that I may not be able to resist it.

However, in keeping with the tool theme, in either event I will want one with lug holes.

Here's the question - can anyone tell me during what serial number run(s), the 16610 and 16613 lost their lug holes?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 4 July 2013, 02:23 AM   #2
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I think early Y serial. I have a Y 16618 with lug holes. I've seen Y 16618 also without.
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Old 4 July 2013, 02:36 AM   #3
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I will eventually get a Sub - either a 16610 or a 16613. To me, the Sub is a tool watch so I should go for the 16610, but the 16613 is just so beautiful that I may not be able to resist it.

However, in keeping with the tool theme, in either event I will want one with lug holes.

Here's the question - can anyone tell me during what serial number run(s), the 16610 and 16613 lost their lug holes?

Thanks in advance!
It was 2002 end of Y serials into early 2003 the non lugs holes cases started to make there appearance on most all off the sports models but could be a slight overlap on the slow gold and TT sellers.
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Old 4 July 2013, 02:40 AM   #4
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First time I saw are Rolex without lug holes I ask my watchmaker if it was a fake. That was in 1998.
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Old 4 July 2013, 02:41 AM   #5
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I miss them.
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Old 4 July 2013, 02:44 AM   #6
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I miss them.

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Old 4 July 2013, 02:44 AM   #7
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I think early Y serial. I have a Y 16618 with lug holes. I've seen Y 16618 also without.
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It was 2002 end of Y serials into early 2003 the non lugs holes cases started to make there appearance on most all off the sports models but could be a slight overlap on the slow gold and TT sellers.
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First time I saw are Rolex without lug holes I ask my watchmaker if it was a fake. That was in 1998.
Thanks to all - looks like Y serials or thereabouts are the newest examples still with lugholes.
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Old 4 July 2013, 03:28 AM   #8
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Now that you know where you stand on lug holes, I would say the 16613 would be a great choice. I've had both a black and a Bluesy - the Bluesy was so much better looking!
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I applaud you for getting lug holes... I love them...
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Lug holes are great.
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I miss them.
I don't as most of my watches have them!
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Love the lug holes!
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Old 4 July 2013, 05:25 AM   #13
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Lug holes are neat!
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Old 4 July 2013, 05:33 AM   #14
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Love mine too.. S serial 16613ln
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Old 7 July 2013, 05:23 PM   #15
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I personally think it's a much cleaner look without them. But to each, his own :)
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Old 7 July 2013, 06:34 PM   #16
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It adds flavor and keeps things nostalgic for me.
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Old 7 July 2013, 09:37 PM   #17
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I'm all about evolution when it comes to watches - I like the cleaner look without lug holes.
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I have no preference - holes or no holes.."not a question" (lol)..but from a value perspective..if you have 2 preowned
identical Y serial Steel and Gold Subs in similar condition and full set...one with holes
the other... without ?...the one... without the holes will sell for at least 500 dollars
more. Also the blue/bezel/dial will sell for more than 500 from an identical black/bezel/dial
I hope you can see how powerfull demand & preference is.. for what in my opinion is frivolous
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