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Dave2882 · 31 July 2013, 02:24 AM

Hey Guys-

I am finally coming to the world of owning a Rolex. I have found a watch that is local to me for sale, a friend had passed me the sellers info (he is an acquaintance of my buddy but not the original owner), and he actually has a posting on Craigslist as well. My problem is he does not have the papers...

He is willing to meet me at an AD, but as we all know, they will not authenticate it for me, even after offering to pay for it. Below is a link to the CL posting, any help/advice would be appreciated.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...963752955.html

Thanks
Dave

padi56 · 31 July 2013, 02:39 AM

Well in the real world the so called papers are nothing more than a warranty paper,and after the warranty well its just a bit of paper/or plastic.Today far too much enthuses is put of the so called papers with modern day Rolex.As with today's technology these are the easiest to fake,always buy the seller and condition of the watch.And if no service history have it serviced by RSC then you will have a service paper/card with all the watch details on and that will be a current two year warranty.

beshannon · 31 July 2013, 02:49 AM

Since the ad states it was serviced, does he have the service paperwork?

kilyung · 31 July 2013, 03:03 AM

Looks fine but there's no substitute for opening it up.

NKflyer · 31 July 2013, 03:09 AM

Authenticity looks okay from the pics but I think the asking price is too high. The hands have been replaced and do not match the dial and it's over-polished.

CWIN · 31 July 2013, 03:10 AM

I'd just take it to an AD and have them authenticate it. Not having papers is not a big deal to me personally. I'd be more concerned about the condition of the watch.

landroverking · 31 July 2013, 03:38 AM

Service papers good other papers useless. IMO.

kxux · 31 July 2013, 03:41 AM

Ask the AD to for appraisal of the watch for insurance purposes. They will gladly do that for a fee. I do that with any of my purchases.

Kingair · 31 July 2013, 04:46 AM

I was searching info some time ago when I was buying my first one . . .

And a member his response was "I don't run around with my papers"

And he is correct

Just make sure you got a genuine Rolex and have it checked at an AD or at least by someone who knows these watches by heart.

Papers . . . if you are buying something special . . . vintage . . . plexi . . . Red . . . Double Red . . . it would be a big difference . . . and it would reflect in the price of course

But for example a 16610 . . . don't bother . . . millions out there . . . but mine is the most beautiful . . .

Regarding this Explorer II . . have it checked somehow . . . the price is according to me . . . very low for the shape that she' in !

So . . . watch out !

HAGOne

NKflyer · 31 July 2013, 05:03 AM

I also forgot to mention in my earlier reply... This is not the box that would have come with this watch originally. Box is newer.

Kingair · 31 July 2013, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKflyer

I also forgot to mention in my earlier reply... This is not the box that would have come with this watch originally. Box is newer.

Enough Rolex boxes for sale . . . $ 50.00 will do the trick

HAGOne

Tools · 31 July 2013, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave2882

Hey Guys-

I am finally coming to the world of owning a Rolex. I have found a watch that is local to me for sale, a friend had passed me the sellers info (he is an acquaintance of my buddy but not the original owner), and he actually has a posting on Craigslist as well. My problem is he does not have the papers...

. . .
Thanks
Dave

Most Rolex watches for sale in the world do not have "papers".. However, even if it did you should never count on "papers" to ensure that the watch is authentic.. Find somebody who you trust to ensure you are getting the real deal..

A.Sharp · 31 July 2013, 12:40 PM

if watch is ligit, and you arent looking to sell it, not a problem at all.

accce · 31 July 2013, 12:43 PM

I would consider the watch a 6.5 out of 10. Papers are nice to have to complete the package but not necessary. If you are unsure about the watch meet at an AD and have them look at it.

porschedude · 31 July 2013, 12:52 PM

too risky IMO

Billywiz · 31 July 2013, 01:52 PM

I agree with everyone here about 'it really Doesn't matter' however , as irrational as I know it to be , I have to have 'em.

31 July 2013, 02:24 AM	#1
Dave2882 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: Washington dc Watch: BLNR Posts: 61	Buying with out papers... Thoughts? Hey Guys- I am finally coming to the world of owning a Rolex. I have found a watch that is local to me for sale, a friend had passed me the sellers info (he is an acquaintance of my buddy but not the original owner), and he actually has a posting on Craigslist as well. My problem is he does not have the papers... He is willing to meet me at an AD, but as we all know, they will not authenticate it for me, even after offering to pay for it. Below is a link to the CL posting, any help/advice would be appreciated. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...963752955.html Thanks Dave

31 July 2013, 02:39 AM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,062	Well in the real world the so called papers are nothing more than a warranty paper,and after the warranty well its just a bit of paper/or plastic.Today far too much enthuses is put of the so called papers with modern day Rolex.As with today's technology these are the easiest to fake,always buy the seller and condition of the watch.And if no service history have it serviced by RSC then you will have a service paper/card with all the watch details on and that will be a current two year warranty. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

31 July 2013, 02:49 AM	#3
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Since the ad states it was serviced, does he have the service paperwork? __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

31 July 2013, 12:40 PM	#13
A.Sharp "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York City Posts: 2,062	if watch is ligit, and you arent looking to sell it, not a problem at all. __________________ A.Sharp "I can't listen to that much Wagner, ya know? I start to get the urge to conquer Poland."

31 July 2013, 03:03 AM	#4
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Looks fine but there's no substitute for opening it up.

31 July 2013, 03:09 AM	#5
NKflyer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Richard Location: Colorado Posts: 2,858	Authenticity looks okay from the pics but I think the asking price is too high. The hands have been replaced and do not match the dial and it's over-polished.

31 July 2013, 03:10 AM	#6
CWIN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Chris Location: San Diego Watch: Patek, AP, Rolex Posts: 4,449	I'd just take it to an AD and have them authenticate it. Not having papers is not a big deal to me personally. I'd be more concerned about the condition of the watch.

31 July 2013, 03:38 AM	#7
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Service papers good other papers useless. IMO.

31 July 2013, 03:41 AM	#8
kxux 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Jan Location: PA Watch: GMT II Posts: 1,110	Ask the AD to for appraisal of the watch for insurance purposes. They will gladly do that for a fee. I do that with any of my purchases.

31 July 2013, 04:46 AM	#9
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	I was searching info some time ago when I was buying my first one . . . And a member his response was "I don't run around with my papers" And he is correct Just make sure you got a genuine Rolex and have it checked at an AD or at least by someone who knows these watches by heart. Papers . . . if you are buying something special . . . vintage . . . plexi . . . Red . . . Double Red . . . it would be a big difference . . . and it would reflect in the price of course But for example a 16610 . . . don't bother . . . millions out there . . . but mine is the most beautiful . . . Regarding this Explorer II . . have it checked somehow . . . the price is according to me . . . very low for the shape that she' in ! So . . . watch out ! HAGOne

31 July 2013, 05:03 AM	#10
NKflyer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Richard Location: Colorado Posts: 2,858	I also forgot to mention in my earlier reply... This is not the box that would have come with this watch originally. Box is newer.

31 July 2013, 12:43 PM	#14
accce "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Chevy Chase Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 1,088	I would consider the watch a 6.5 out of 10. Papers are nice to have to complete the package but not necessary. If you are unsure about the watch meet at an AD and have them look at it.

31 July 2013, 12:52 PM	#15
porschedude "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Watch: 116610LV Posts: 1,207	too risky IMO

31 July 2013, 01:52 PM	#16
Billywiz Banned Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: John Location: Florida Watch: YG President Posts: 2,090	I agree with everyone here about 'it really Doesn't matter' however , as irrational as I know it to be , I have to have 'em.

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