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ufboy73 · 20 July 2013, 05:41 PM

What do you guys think:

217 or 127?

travisb · 20 July 2013, 06:48 PM

127 to me is the best "modern day" representation of Panerai history.
372 vs 127 makes for an even better debate, but I still give it to the 127.
Definately love the Destro though! 368 would be my choice if I went down that road.

kilyung · 21 July 2013, 12:43 AM

They're basically the same watch but the 127 is probably my pick for obvious reasons.

ufboy73 · 21 July 2013, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

They're basically the same watch but the 127 is probably my pick for obvious reasons.

didnt i see recent wrist shots on you - is it that obvious?

mborkow · 21 July 2013, 01:27 AM

one's just the destro version of the other, right? if I was right handed (I'm a lefty), I'd get the destro versions. I like having the crown guards away from my hand.

nishant · 21 July 2013, 10:50 AM

127 has more pop of the two .. I really don't care about the DNA. IMO, None of the two have any real DNA .. Only the actual vintage pieces do.

Travelller · 21 July 2013, 07:52 PM

Both are great representatives of vintage Panerai; I'd take the 217 over the 127 simply because the "MM" logo will no longer be used - and that's a FACT.

Friedl41 · 21 July 2013, 10:55 PM

Why will it no longer be used?

mborkow · 21 July 2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Friedl41

Why will it no longer be used?

Panerai can't use it anymore. It's the property of the Italian navy, I believe

ufboy73 · 26 July 2013, 11:24 AM

argh....both watches so tempting - im starting to worry, though, both may be impractical for 'daily' wear?

does anyone happen to know how thick each is?

mborkow · 26 July 2013, 12:04 PM

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im starting to worry, though, both may be impractical for 'daily' wear?

I don't think they are impractical for daily wear at all...I wear a 372 daily at the moment and many others on this forum wear 47mm watches daily.

ufboy73 · 26 July 2013, 12:05 PM

actually, worried more about cuffs

mborkow · 26 July 2013, 02:28 PM

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actually, worried more about cuffs

short sleeve shirts?

ufboy73 · 26 July 2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mborkow

short sleeve shirts?

haha, maybe in SF not so much in NYC

mborkow · 26 July 2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ufboy73

haha, maybe in SF not so much in NYC

Here on the west coast, I wear jeans and a t-shirt nearly every day

ufboy73 · 26 July 2013, 03:51 PM

i wish...i actually also live in the bay area but travel a lot for work...when in rome...

Travelller · 26 July 2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ufboy73

actually, worried more about cuffs

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Originally Posted by mborkow

short sleeve shirts?

Never, EVER in a business environment should you be caught dead wearing a short-sleeved shirt. Roll them up if it's hot...

@ufboy, my guess is that it's similar to my 233 (despite them being 47mm) so we're talking 17.5 mm. Same 1950 case, dome crystal and caseback for a handwound mvmt. Generally-speaking, it is a tough fit but doable. My "cuffed" shirts seem to be generous and with regular shirts I tend to leave them un-buttoned. The jacket keeps them in line...

CHRISTIN · 27 July 2013, 05:03 PM

Depends on if you are Right or Left handed... both are Great!!

Andad · 27 July 2013, 05:26 PM

Some are just way too big for a 'business' environment.
eg. 17.5 x 47mm.

Unless you own the Company.

Buttoned cuffs are de rigueur in Morphett Vale SA.

Travelller · 10 August 2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Travelller

...I'd take the 217 over the 127 simply because the "MM" logo will no longer be used...

Speaking of MMs... this photo is guaranteed to make any "'Risti" drool uncontrollably...

c/o Dan from Japan

ufboy73 · 12 August 2013, 04:27 PM

oh my! thats a heck of a militare collection!

i know its just two stupid words on the dial but, geez, something about them is just really appealing to me.

i was actually pretty intereste in the 339 potentially, also, but some of those nasty discoloration pics have really scared me off....its a real shame, since the watch looks so unique and yet still an homage

Travelller · 13 August 2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ufboy73

i was actually pretty interested in the 339 potentially, also, but some of those nasty discoloration pics have really scared me off...

yes a nice design, but tbh I'm big on SS

Exception - pre-Vs or PAMs that represent pre-Vs like the PVD'ed 'Risti 360

I'm still hooked on this fella though...

ufboy73 · 13 August 2013, 11:20 AM

btw, what are the three MM's on the left?

Travelller · 13 August 2013, 09:15 PM

The left-most is a Pre-V 202/A "non-matching", the two to it's right are both PAM 036 (1998)

ufboy73 · 14 August 2013, 10:41 AM

thanks - that pre-v is sick! ill take that one!!! lol lol

im curious, as the marina collection pictured doesnt seem to show one, is the 82 somehow thought of as a 'lesser' MM? its price also seems out of line compared to the others

PatekCollector · 14 August 2013, 02:27 PM

I would say 127

Travelller · 14 August 2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ufboy73

t...the marina collection pictured doesnt seem to show one, is the 82...

It's not a collection, it's the watches everyone was wearing at a typical GTG...

Z-Dweller · 14 August 2013, 10:47 PM

I hope Panerai brings back the smaller seconds dial at 3 or 9 o'clock, like on the 217 and 127. That's a detail that catches my eye when distinguishing the various models.

Here is a borrowed pic showing the 127 vs 233 and another borrowed pic of the 127 and 217 (destro).

Gold colored hands and small(er) seconds dial makes these watches stand apart from the usual formula.

20 July 2013, 05:41 PM	#1
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	Which Has More DNA What do you guys think: 217 or 127?

21 July 2013, 07:52 PM	#7
Travelller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: VIE Watch: my sig. ;) Posts: 3,091	Both are great representatives of vintage Panerai; I'd take the 217 over the 127 simply because the "MM" logo will no longer be used - and that's a FACT. __________________ Traveller - Genève * Melbourne * Miami * Wien Breitling AVI 765r Navitimer 806r Omega 3572.50 SM300MC Speedy Tuesday Caliber 321 Panerai 111 217 233 Rolex 16600 126600 Seiko SBGA125 SBDX001 SLA017 SLA025 SLA033 Tudor 5B GMT Zénith A386ME Other Mühle Glashütte S.A.R. Flieger Chronoswiss Tora

21 July 2013, 10:55 PM	#8
Friedl41 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: SLF41 Location: Spain Watch: Changes Posts: 1,053	Why will it no longer be used? __________________ Sea Dweller 16600, Submariner 14060m SUB 5513 meter first (1968) Air King 5500 (1980) GMTc NR, Explorer 1 & II 14270 & 16570 PP 5065a

27 July 2013, 05:26 PM	#19
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,522	Some are just way too big for a 'business' environment. eg. 17.5 x 47mm. Unless you own the Company. Buttoned cuffs are de rigueur in Morphett Vale SA. __________________ E

13 August 2013, 09:15 PM	#24
Travelller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: VIE Watch: my sig. ;) Posts: 3,091	The left-most is a Pre-V 202/A "non-matching", the two to it's right are both PAM 036 (1998) __________________ Traveller - Genève * Melbourne * Miami * Wien Breitling AVI 765r Navitimer 806r Omega 3572.50 SM300MC Speedy Tuesday Caliber 321 Panerai 111 217 233 Rolex 16600 126600 Seiko SBGA125 SBDX001 SLA017 SLA025 SLA033 Tudor 5B GMT Zénith A386ME Other Mühle Glashütte S.A.R. Flieger Chronoswiss Tora

20 July 2013, 06:48 PM	#2
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,486	127 to me is the best "modern day" representation of Panerai history. 372 vs 127 makes for an even better debate, but I still give it to the 127. Definately love the Destro though! 368 would be my choice if I went down that road.

21 July 2013, 12:43 AM	#3
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	They're basically the same watch but the 127 is probably my pick for obvious reasons.

21 July 2013, 01:27 AM	#5
mborkow "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: san francisco Watch: gmt2c pam372 Posts: 842	one's just the destro version of the other, right? if I was right handed (I'm a lefty), I'd get the destro versions. I like having the crown guards away from my hand.

21 July 2013, 10:50 AM	#6
nishant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Nishant T. Location: DC Area Watch: JLC NS Chrono GMT Posts: 779	127 has more pop of the two .. I really don't care about the DNA. IMO, None of the two have any real DNA .. Only the actual vintage pieces do.

26 July 2013, 11:24 AM	#10
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	argh....both watches so tempting - im starting to worry, though, both may be impractical for 'daily' wear? does anyone happen to know how thick each is?

26 July 2013, 12:05 PM	#12
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	actually, worried more about cuffs

26 July 2013, 03:51 PM	#16
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	i wish...i actually also live in the bay area but travel a lot for work...when in rome...

27 July 2013, 05:03 PM	#18
CHRISTIN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 45	Depends on if you are Right or Left handed... both are Great!!

12 August 2013, 04:27 PM	#21
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	oh my! thats a heck of a militare collection! i know its just two stupid words on the dial but, geez, something about them is just really appealing to me. i was actually pretty intereste in the 339 potentially, also, but some of those nasty discoloration pics have really scared me off....its a real shame, since the watch looks so unique and yet still an homage

13 August 2013, 11:20 AM	#23
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	btw, what are the three MM's on the left?

14 August 2013, 10:41 AM	#25
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	thanks - that pre-v is sick! ill take that one!!! lol lol im curious, as the marina collection pictured doesnt seem to show one, is the 82 somehow thought of as a 'lesser' MM? its price also seems out of line compared to the others

14 August 2013, 02:27 PM	#26
PatekCollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Khalid Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,328	I would say 127 __________________ Life is too short, to waste time hating anyone!. Instagram: @PatekCollector

14 August 2013, 10:47 PM	#28
Z-Dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Bill Location: In my man-cave Watch: All my children. Posts: 359	I hope Panerai brings back the smaller seconds dial at 3 or 9 o'clock, like on the 217 and 127. That's a detail that catches my eye when distinguishing the various models. Here is a borrowed pic showing the 127 vs 233 and another borrowed pic of the 127 and 217 (destro). Gold colored hands and small(er) seconds dial makes these watches stand apart from the usual formula. Attached Images __________________ A Lange & Sohne, IWC, Jaeger-Le-Coultre, Officine Panerai, Rolex, Tudor, Omega, Breitling, Hamilton, Laco. Last edited by Z-Dweller; 14 August 2013 at 10:48 PM.. Reason: edit

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