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Rolle1 · 25 August 2013, 06:39 AM

Hey
I am buying myself a RO. I just want some input from people with experience.
Currently I only have one offer, to trade my 116610 (fullset, 2012) with a guy and pay about $4700 to get a 15202 (no box, no paper) from 2004 but in very good condition. Service history unknown, so it might be in need of a full service.
Is that a good deal?

I was going for a 15300 at first but this is what I got at the moment. I don't know what I miss if I get the 15202.

If this isn't a good deal, what is? Please help me and if you have tips where to look (some shop, dealer or anything) in Europe it would be great to know!

Grateful for the help I can get!

kilyung · 25 August 2013, 07:57 AM

Let's be liberal and say your 116610 is about $8000. That would put the value of the 15202 at $12,700. IMO that's about right for a complete excellent condition 15202. However as this has no B&Ps and uncertain service history, I'd negotiate the cash component down. It really depends on what he's valuing your SubC at.

The 15202 is a classic but it does not have a second hand or hack. Nor does it have a quickset date. It's also VERY light compared to your SubC. The 15300 is more like the 116610. Second hand, hacking, and more heft. Ultimately both are exceptional pieces. You just need to decide what you want.

GarageBMW · 25 August 2013, 07:58 AM

Seems too good to be true to me but I don't know much about the second hand value of the 15202. A 15202 without box, paper or service history is worrying for me. I would prefer a complete set, but might not be an issue for you. I would be concerned from where the watch is coming from.

The 15202 is a beautiful watch but I prefer the 15300 if you compare it to your sub, the 15300 would wear more similar.

HKRolexFans · 25 August 2013, 10:02 AM

Personally I won't put my bet for $12000 bucks for a watch without paper, that would worry me too much about authenticy and history. Look for something that you can do for that much money.

mitchie41 · 25 August 2013, 10:38 AM

You could be spending a lot of cash fixing that 15202 if you have no service history on it.

Try to negotiate down the cash part of the deal if you can.

Mitch

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lakbum · 25 August 2013, 10:54 AM

I looked at a 15202 on Ebay that hadn't been serviced since the purchase in 2002. The price was going for like $14000. It came with B&P's but the fact that I would probably have to send it to AP for service was a factor that I needed to consider.

I passed on it.

michaelryuen · 25 August 2013, 12:37 PM

The 15202 is almost 10 years old .. Ill pass ..

kilyung · 25 August 2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelryuen

The 15202 is almost 10 years old .. Ill pass ..

Technically the model is 40 yrs old with minimal changes over its model life so age of a specific watch (with service) is largely irrelevant.

Rolle1 · 25 August 2013, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Let's be liberal and say your 116610 is about $8000. That would put the value of the 15202 at $12,700. IMO that's about right for a complete excellent condition 15202. However as this has no B&Ps and uncertain service history, I'd negotiate the cash component down. It really depends on what he's valuing your SubC at.

The 15202 is a classic but it does not have a second hand or hack. Nor does it have a quickset date. It's also VERY light compared to your SubC. The 15300 is more like the 116610. Second hand, hacking, and more heft. Ultimately both are exceptional pieces. You just need to decide what you want.

What does "hack" mean?
B&P is pretty important for me, also I wanted a blue dial. So I'm not 100% at all for this, I was just wondering to see if this is a really good deal I should take.

A side question: do you think it will be a problem to only own the royal oak? I'm selling my speed master and subc to afford this but several people has told me that it's a bad idea since this is more fragile and it's stupid to have this as the only watch (I have Casio, seiko too).

Rolle1 · 26 August 2013, 08:33 PM

How about this?

http://www.chrono24.se/audemarspigue...arch/index.htm

Rolle1 · 28 August 2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolle1

How about this?

http://www.chrono24.se/audemarspigue...arch/index.htm

Bump.

Still wondering, is that a good deal?
15300 from 2009, fullset for 8500€

travisb · 28 August 2013, 08:42 PM

If the 15202 has no service history, box or papers - it would be recomended that you send it in for a checkup. They would likely suggest a full service which would set you back over $1,000 plus being without the watch for another 6 weeks plus.
I love my Jumbo, but would look for another in this instance if that's the way you go.
15300 (can get the blue dial), sounds like it might be a better fit coming from the Sub.
Good luck! AP is simply awesome.

Rolle1 · 28 August 2013, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisb

If the 15202 has no service history, box or papers - it would be recomended that you send it in for a checkup. They would likely suggest a full service which would set you back over $1,000 plus being without the watch for another 6 weeks plus.
I love my Jumbo, but would look for another in this instance if that's the way you go.
15300 (can get the blue dial), sounds like it might be a better fit coming from the Sub.
Good luck! AP is simply awesome.

The 15300 is from 2009, so it might be in need of a service soon. It's like $11200
Expensive?

Rolle1 · 3 September 2013, 06:41 AM

Anyone who can recommend a place where I can find what Im looking for?

How much should I pay for a 15300 from 2010 (or later)?

B. Doggy · 3 September 2013, 07:00 AM

15300's are getting harder to find as they're discontinued. Good luck on your search.

AK797 · 3 September 2013, 07:11 AM

This new 15300 is available in London at a good price. T4D have a real store, specializing in diamonds, and I would suggest you fly over and pick up the watch in person if you can. Otherwise buying thru ebay/paypal will protect you. Call them rather than email and ask questions first to see if you are happy to deal with them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Audema...item1c2e02847a

cdnyc · 4 September 2013, 12:22 AM

I'd watch the for-sale section in this forum for one. If one pops up from a trusted seller, you know it's legit.

FYI, if you're only going to have 1 watch / 1 Royal Oak for daily wear, I agree it should be the 15300 or 15400 instead of the 15202, since they're more versatile/robust. But for a watch that will be part of a rotation and can avoid very active or rough days, I prefer the 15202.

metallic · 4 September 2013, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolle1

Anyone who can recommend a place where I can find what Im looking for?

How much should I pay for a 15300 from 2010 (or later)?

I would shoot for about $10,000 with B & P.

Rolle1 · 4 September 2013, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B. Doggy

15300's are getting harder to find as they're discontinued. Good luck on your search.

Yeah, Ive noticed.. :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

This new 15300 is available in London at a good price. T4D have a real store, specializing in diamonds, and I would suggest you fly over and pick up the watch in person if you can. Otherwise buying thru ebay/paypal will protect you. Call them rather than email and ask questions first to see if you are happy to deal with them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Audema...item1c2e02847a

Super, will check that out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdnyc81

I'd watch the for-sale section in this forum for one. If one pops up from a trusted seller, you know it's legit.

FYI, if you're only going to have 1 watch / 1 Royal Oak for daily wear, I agree it should be the 15300 or 15400 instead of the 15202, since they're more versatile/robust. But for a watch that will be part of a rotation and can avoid very active or rough days, I prefer the 15202.

The sale section here doesnt have much to offer when it comes to regular RO. Its a lot of offshore, but no 15300.

Dcmk · 4 September 2013, 11:51 PM

15202 pure royal oak ..nothing else

cdnyc · 5 September 2013, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolle1

The sale section here doesnt have much to offer when it comes to regular RO. Its a lot of offshore, but no 15300.

You have to keep up with it for a little while. 15300s pop up every few weeks or so. And the sellers are typically folks who know what we're looking for -- box and papers, service history, etc.

Also, try reaching out to DavidSW if you haven't already. He may be able to source one.

kilyung · 5 September 2013, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metallic

I would shoot for about $10,000 with B & P.

Too low. IMO most are now almost $11k depending on condition.

AshAP · 5 September 2013, 07:17 AM

What sort of nut job buys a £14,000 watch and loses the box and papers? I'd buy a 15202 but only with the box and papers. After all it could be stolen and in that case you'd never get it back from the service.

25 August 2013, 06:39 AM	#1
Rolle1 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: SWE Posts: 27	Need tips buying my first Royal Oak Hey I am buying myself a RO. I just want some input from people with experience. Currently I only have one offer, to trade my 116610 (fullset, 2012) with a guy and pay about $4700 to get a 15202 (no box, no paper) from 2004 but in very good condition. Service history unknown, so it might be in need of a full service. Is that a good deal? I was going for a 15300 at first but this is what I got at the moment. I don't know what I miss if I get the 15202. If this isn't a good deal, what is? Please help me and if you have tips where to look (some shop, dealer or anything) in Europe it would be great to know! Grateful for the help I can get!

25 August 2013, 07:58 AM	#3
GarageBMW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Third Degree Location: Glenfinnan Watch: the step Posts: 1,896	Seems too good to be true to me but I don't know much about the second hand value of the 15202. A 15202 without box, paper or service history is worrying for me. I would prefer a complete set, but might not be an issue for you. I would be concerned from where the watch is coming from. The 15202 is a beautiful watch but I prefer the 15300 if you compare it to your sub, the 15300 would wear more similar. Last edited by GarageBMW; 25 August 2013 at 08:02 AM.. Reason: correcting typo

3 September 2013, 06:41 AM	#14
Rolle1 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: SWE Posts: 27	Still no success Anyone who can recommend a place where I can find what Im looking for? How much should I pay for a 15300 from 2010 (or later)?

3 September 2013, 07:00 AM	#15
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	15300's are getting harder to find as they're discontinued. Good luck on your search. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

25 August 2013, 07:57 AM	#2
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Let's be liberal and say your 116610 is about $8000. That would put the value of the 15202 at $12,700. IMO that's about right for a complete excellent condition 15202. However as this has no B&Ps and uncertain service history, I'd negotiate the cash component down. It really depends on what he's valuing your SubC at. The 15202 is a classic but it does not have a second hand or hack. Nor does it have a quickset date. It's also VERY light compared to your SubC. The 15300 is more like the 116610. Second hand, hacking, and more heft. Ultimately both are exceptional pieces. You just need to decide what you want.

25 August 2013, 10:02 AM	#4
HKRolexFans "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: David Location: Hong Kong Watch: R-A-P-I-O Posts: 289	Personally I won't put my bet for $12000 bucks for a watch without paper, that would worry me too much about authenticy and history. Look for something that you can do for that much money.

25 August 2013, 10:38 AM	#5
mitchie41 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vancouver Posts: 79	You could be spending a lot of cash fixing that 15202 if you have no service history on it. Try to negotiate down the cash part of the deal if you can. Mitch Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk 2

25 August 2013, 10:54 AM	#6
lakbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Dennis Location: Philippines Watch: AP FC Diver Posts: 33	I looked at a 15202 on Ebay that hadn't been serviced since the purchase in 2002. The price was going for like $14000. It came with B&P's but the fact that I would probably have to send it to AP for service was a factor that I needed to consider. I passed on it.

25 August 2013, 12:37 PM	#7
michaelryuen "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 154	The 15202 is almost 10 years old .. Ill pass ..

26 August 2013, 08:33 PM	#10
Rolle1 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: SWE Posts: 27	How about this? http://www.chrono24.se/audemarspigue...arch/index.htm

28 August 2013, 08:42 PM	#12
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	If the 15202 has no service history, box or papers - it would be recomended that you send it in for a checkup. They would likely suggest a full service which would set you back over $1,000 plus being without the watch for another 6 weeks plus. I love my Jumbo, but would look for another in this instance if that's the way you go. 15300 (can get the blue dial), sounds like it might be a better fit coming from the Sub. Good luck! AP is simply awesome.

3 September 2013, 07:11 AM	#16
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	This new 15300 is available in London at a good price. T4D have a real store, specializing in diamonds, and I would suggest you fly over and pick up the watch in person if you can. Otherwise buying thru ebay/paypal will protect you. Call them rather than email and ask questions first to see if you are happy to deal with them. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Audema...item1c2e02847a

4 September 2013, 12:22 AM	#17
cdnyc "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Cory Location: NY Posts: 681	I'd watch the for-sale section in this forum for one. If one pops up from a trusted seller, you know it's legit. FYI, if you're only going to have 1 watch / 1 Royal Oak for daily wear, I agree it should be the 15300 or 15400 instead of the 15202, since they're more versatile/robust. But for a watch that will be part of a rotation and can avoid very active or rough days, I prefer the 15202.

4 September 2013, 11:51 PM	#20
Dcmk Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Malaysia Posts: 264	15202 pure royal oak ..nothing else

5 September 2013, 07:17 AM	#23
AshAP "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ash Location: UK Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 4,544	What sort of nut job buys a £14,000 watch and loses the box and papers? I'd buy a 15202 but only with the box and papers. After all it could be stolen and in that case you'd never get it back from the service.

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