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acarriles · 29 January 2008, 08:37 AM

Here's my question: I have a chance to trade my SS/18K Cartier Santos at a good value, but only if I get a higher priced watch at the same time. I don't use the Cartier any more, plus it is Quartz, and I prefer to have only mechanical watches for my collection.

Here are the options:

a) Blancpain Leman Chronograph. It is in mint condition, but has no box or papers. I can have it for $4800.00

b) Zenith Chronomaster Open. Mint condition, comes with box and papers. Also $4800.00

c) Finally, Zenith Grande Class Reserve de Marche. New, with box and papers. $3600.00

I am getting roughly $1950 for my Cartier.

Any opinions will be highly appreciated.

P.S. The order of the pictures is Z-Chrono, Z-Grande, Blancpain.

frostie · 29 January 2008, 08:43 AM

Ι like the look of the zenith watch but i am not expert when it comes to these watches. I judged these watches by their look

Scooby · 29 January 2008, 09:05 AM

Well, I'm strictly going by appearance here. Not crazy about the hands or the dial of the Zenith Grande. The Chrono open seems promising, but besides the open part, the rest of the dial seems lackluster. I like the BP, but I like it better in black. Also, is it a flyback or a regular BP chrono? Anyway, if these are my choices, I pick the BP.

By the way, I am also guessing the sizes are slightly different. I think the BP is 37-38 mm, while the others look slightly bigger.

acarriles · 29 January 2008, 09:32 AM

Yes, the BP is 38mm and the others are 40mm.

Any comments on the brand and/or price?

applebook · 29 January 2008, 10:48 AM

From my experience with both brands, I think that Blancpain is slightly above Zenith in overall finish and quality. Blancpain is also more exclusive, and that F. Piguet caliber is top-notch.

Having owned 3 Blancpain models, I feel that they are a tiny bit above Zenith, Rolex, OMEGA, etc.

Plus, I really like the white dial on the Blancpain models. They are REALLY white and nice.

boa2 · 29 January 2008, 04:11 PM

You might consider purchasing it from Zeetan at www.collectorstime.com
Brand new in the box for $5500, and he's a terrific seller. Beautiful finish and movements, Zenith is outstanding.

vman · 29 January 2008, 04:40 PM

You can get Zenith from Amazon. Personally, I love the Class series.

CPCC · 1 February 2008, 04:43 PM

Zenith

applebook · 1 February 2008, 05:25 PM

Zenith can't touch this:

Scooby · 2 February 2008, 01:16 AM

Nice Applebook - a classic Leman big date.

SPACE-DWELLER · 2 February 2008, 01:24 AM

I'd go for the Blancpain. Although I like Zenith in general, the dial design of the two shown are too busy for my liking.

DavidHasselhoff · 2 February 2008, 01:47 AM

I'd go with option "c". That was the one that I found most appealing.

haakon59 · 2 February 2008, 08:00 AM

For me personally, it would be either A or C, as I don't like the design of the Zenith "open" models. That being said, both make excellent watches. While Zenith has a lower level of finishing (which doesn't affect performance particularly) and Zenith has an exellent reputation for making chronographs, I would pick the Blancpain although either way you will get an excellent watch. The advantage of the Blancpain is that it is much more exclusive while Zenith movements have been renouned for decades as being reliable and robust. It depends on which qualities you want to prioritize.

haakon59 · 3 February 2008, 03:28 AM

[QUOTE=applebook;441138]Zenith can't touch this:

I agree--I like the Leman Big Date quite a bit and hope to have one at some point. Great photo

frostie · 3 February 2008, 03:31 AM

That's an amazing Blancpain

what's the retail for one of those ?

davidwatts · 3 February 2008, 03:36 AM

blancpain

Thani · 3 February 2008, 05:41 AM

i love the Zenith Open. one of my fav watches

Scooby · 3 February 2008, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostie

That's an amazing Blancpain

what's the retail for one of those ?

Saw it for sale at Atlantic Time for $4,600 USD. Retails for $7,900 USD.
http://www.atlantictime.com/blancpai...0058-4062.html

(apologies if this violates forum rules)

Laetitya · 3 February 2008, 06:53 AM

I like the Zenith with the black dial

frostie · 3 February 2008, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby

Saw it for sale at Atlantic Time for $4,600 USD. Retails for $7,900 USD.
http://www.atlantictime.com/blancpai...0058-4062.html

(apologies if this violates forum rules)

Thanks a lot

applebook · 3 February 2008, 07:50 AM

Frostie, no one pays retail, especially not for a Blancpain ;)

At retail prices, Blancpains are not worth it because if you spend a bit more, you can get a Patek. For the record, I paid far less than $4600.

crimscrem · 3 February 2008, 08:00 AM

Blancpain Leman Chronograph.

No brainer for me. I'd love to have that watch. I'm going strictly on appearance.

applebook · 3 February 2008, 08:32 AM

I have no affiliation with the seller, but there is a Leman Monaco Flyback that's just been serviced and comes with extras for under $4600 on TZ. If I had the funds, I would jump on it.

lardog · 3 February 2008, 12:14 PM

Zenith

applebook · 3 February 2008, 01:13 PM

Nice, Lardog

Got to love Zenith's 36,000bph as well. Smooth as butter.

29 January 2008, 08:37 AM	#1
acarriles "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston Watch: Blue SS SkyDweller Posts: 411	Blancpain or Zenith ? Here's my question: I have a chance to trade my SS/18K Cartier Santos at a good value, but only if I get a higher priced watch at the same time. I don't use the Cartier any more, plus it is Quartz, and I prefer to have only mechanical watches for my collection. Here are the options: a) Blancpain Leman Chronograph. It is in mint condition, but has no box or papers. I can have it for $4800.00 b) Zenith Chronomaster Open. Mint condition, comes with box and papers. Also $4800.00 c) Finally, Zenith Grande Class Reserve de Marche. New, with box and papers. $3600.00 I am getting roughly $1950 for my Cartier. Any opinions will be highly appreciated. P.S. The order of the pictures is Z-Chrono, Z-Grande, Blancpain. Attached Images

29 January 2008, 08:43 AM	#2
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	Ι like the look of the zenith watch but i am not expert when it comes to these watches. I judged these watches by their look __________________ GMT - Master II C - 116710 LN

29 January 2008, 04:11 PM	#6
boa2 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Howard Location: Utah Watch: Lover Posts: 3,939	I really like the Zenith Chronomaster Open You might consider purchasing it from Zeetan at www.collectorstime.com Brand new in the box for $5500, and he's a terrific seller. Beautiful finish and movements, Zenith is outstanding.

1 February 2008, 04:43 PM	#8
CPCC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: USA Posts: 1,857	Zenith __________________

2 February 2008, 01:24 AM	#11
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	I'd go for the Blancpain. Although I like Zenith in general, the dial design of the two shown are too busy for my liking. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

29 January 2008, 09:05 AM	#3
Scooby Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Darren Location: Virginia, USA Watch: GMT Posts: 923	Well, I'm strictly going by appearance here. Not crazy about the hands or the dial of the Zenith Grande. The Chrono open seems promising, but besides the open part, the rest of the dial seems lackluster. I like the BP, but I like it better in black. Also, is it a flyback or a regular BP chrono? Anyway, if these are my choices, I pick the BP. By the way, I am also guessing the sizes are slightly different. I think the BP is 37-38 mm, while the others look slightly bigger.

29 January 2008, 09:32 AM	#4
acarriles "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston Watch: Blue SS SkyDweller Posts: 411	Yes, the BP is 38mm and the others are 40mm. Any comments on the brand and/or price?

29 January 2008, 10:48 AM	#5
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	From my experience with both brands, I think that Blancpain is slightly above Zenith in overall finish and quality. Blancpain is also more exclusive, and that F. Piguet caliber is top-notch. Having owned 3 Blancpain models, I feel that they are a tiny bit above Zenith, Rolex, OMEGA, etc. Plus, I really like the white dial on the Blancpain models. They are REALLY white and nice.

29 January 2008, 04:40 PM	#7
vman 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Capt Swerve Location: North Carolina Watch: less TV Posts: 2,230	You can get Zenith from Amazon. Personally, I love the Class series.

1 February 2008, 05:25 PM	#9
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	Zenith can't touch this:

2 February 2008, 01:16 AM	#10
Scooby Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Darren Location: Virginia, USA Watch: GMT Posts: 923	Nice Applebook - a classic Leman big date.

2 February 2008, 01:47 AM	#12
DavidHasselhoff Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: SS Submariner Posts: 312	I'd go with option "c". That was the one that I found most appealing.

2 February 2008, 08:00 AM	#13
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	For me personally, it would be either A or C, as I don't like the design of the Zenith "open" models. That being said, both make excellent watches. While Zenith has a lower level of finishing (which doesn't affect performance particularly) and Zenith has an exellent reputation for making chronographs, I would pick the Blancpain although either way you will get an excellent watch. The advantage of the Blancpain is that it is much more exclusive while Zenith movements have been renouned for decades as being reliable and robust. It depends on which qualities you want to prioritize.

3 February 2008, 03:28 AM	#14
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	[QUOTE=applebook;441138]Zenith can't touch this: I agree--I like the Leman Big Date quite a bit and hope to have one at some point. Great photo

3 February 2008, 03:31 AM	#15
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	That's an amazing Blancpain what's the retail for one of those ? __________________ GMT - Master II C - 116710 LN

3 February 2008, 03:36 AM	#16
davidwatts "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Ian Location: Hampshire,England Watch: TT Datejust Posts: 446	blancpain __________________ No present like the time.

3 February 2008, 05:41 AM	#17
Thani Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Thani Location: Dubai UAE Watch: Milgauss 116400 GV Posts: 2,082	i love the Zenith Open. one of my fav watches

3 February 2008, 06:53 AM	#19
Laetitya Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Francesca Location: Switzerland Watch: PAM 336 Posts: 56	I like the Zenith with the black dial

3 February 2008, 07:50 AM	#21
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	Frostie, no one pays retail, especially not for a Blancpain ;) At retail prices, Blancpains are not worth it because if you spend a bit more, you can get a Patek. For the record, I paid far less than $4600.

3 February 2008, 08:00 AM	#22
crimscrem "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Watch: SS DJ/SS GMT-IIc Posts: 583	Blancpain Leman Chronograph. No brainer for me. I'd love to have that watch. I'm going strictly on appearance.

3 February 2008, 08:32 AM	#23
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	I have no affiliation with the seller, but there is a Leman Monaco Flyback that's just been serviced and comes with extras for under $4600 on TZ. If I had the funds, I would jump on it.

3 February 2008, 12:14 PM	#24
lardog Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Watch: Over 50 Posts: 177	Zenith

3 February 2008, 01:13 PM	#25
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	Nice, Lardog Got to love Zenith's 36,000bph as well. Smooth as butter.

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