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Jorssen · 19 November 2013, 01:59 AM

Hey guys,

Maybe some of you know the answer to my question. I always thought that the AP clasps did not come with holes in them. Though, here and there I see clasps with them and without them. Is there any explanation? Until when, from when did AP uses holes in their clasp for the springbar?

Some have it, some don't, I don't see a consistency but imo most don't have holes.

Anyone knows about this?

With hole:

No hole:

AshAP · 19 November 2013, 06:39 AM

I have both G & H series offshores and there aren't any holes in mine.

Jorssen · 19 November 2013, 08:53 AM

That's what I'd like to get to know, which ones have holes and which ones don't. The first one pictured is a G-series.

SILES89 · 20 November 2013, 07:59 AM

It's actually very simple: Holes = fake clasp!!
It's as easy as that...

R_Ongjoco · 20 November 2013, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SILES89

It's actually very simple: Holes = fake clasp!!
It's as easy as that...

Is this true? The first picture is from a reputable seller and a known guy on here and various watch forums...

Jorssen · 20 November 2013, 08:00 PM

I also have my doubts about it being a fake as I've seen it on other ROO's as well.

kilyung · 21 November 2013, 01:10 AM

I'm not 100% sure (as I've never owned any AP strap deployant clasps other than the Bee) but I don't ever recall seeing holes in them at the AD.

AK797 · 21 November 2013, 01:12 AM

Hey Stijn, I am very weary of any holes, a common fake tell, unless someone here does know exactly which series/years had some.

v5cog · 23 November 2013, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SILES89

It's actually very simple: Holes = fake clasp!!
It's as easy as that...

X 2

Also the edges are more rounded on Gen.

Demonoid · 23 November 2013, 11:23 PM

Ok. Bad news Stijn. I just checked my millenary steel and jules audemars chrono gold. Both with the Ap clasp and NO holes in any.

exiger77 · 23 November 2013, 11:47 PM

H series ROO, no holes..

rolexlover · 24 November 2013, 04:26 AM

For sure a FAKE Clasp

Porsche-ah · 24 November 2013, 05:07 AM

Hole = Fake

It's as simple as that.

Colin W · 25 November 2013, 07:20 PM

F series no holes, not seen a clasp with holes that I can recall.

diver2012 · 25 November 2013, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Ongjoco

Is this true? The first picture is from a reputable seller and a known guy on here and various watch forums...

Might be an idea to tell us who seeing as it is fake - to stop people from being stung.

gummy · 25 November 2013, 09:48 PM

None of mine have had holes...

Shawnnyang · 25 November 2013, 11:27 PM

reputable sellers get duped as well on parts such as clasps and buckles (who most don't pay much attention to).

The most convincing lies are those with half truths.

Amme · 29 November 2013, 11:41 PM

I have seen fake buckles without holes as well so don't just trust the ones you see without holes. Look for the stamp or whatever its called under the screw that holds the bar that goes in to the strap

What a terrible explanation but I think you understood :)

19 November 2013, 01:59 AM	#1
Jorssen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Belgium Watch: Patek 5711 Posts: 151	The AP deployant clasp, I'm confused Hey guys, Maybe some of you know the answer to my question. I always thought that the AP clasps did not come with holes in them. Though, here and there I see clasps with them and without them. Is there any explanation? Until when, from when did AP uses holes in their clasp for the springbar? Some have it, some don't, I don't see a consistency but imo most don't have holes. Anyone knows about this? With hole: No hole:

24 November 2013, 04:26 AM	#12
rolexlover "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Saint Louis Watch: Explorer I, AP ROO Posts: 29	For sure a FAKE Clasp __________________ Explorer I Vintage Air-King Date w/ rare blue dial 18038 YG Day-Date "President" Panerai Luminor Marina-PAM 00048 Audemars Piguet ROO Rubber Clad

24 November 2013, 05:07 AM	#13
Porsche-ah "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Pierre Location: Toronto Watch: and learn! Posts: 155	Hole = Fake It's as simple as that. __________________ P. Never Drive Faster Then Your Guardian Angel Can Fly

19 November 2013, 06:39 AM	#2
AshAP "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ash Location: UK Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 4,544	I have both G & H series offshores and there aren't any holes in mine.

19 November 2013, 08:53 AM	#3
Jorssen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Belgium Watch: Patek 5711 Posts: 151	That's what I'd like to get to know, which ones have holes and which ones don't. The first one pictured is a G-series.

20 November 2013, 07:59 AM	#4
SILES89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Israel Posts: 4	It's actually very simple: Holes = fake clasp!! It's as easy as that...

20 November 2013, 08:00 PM	#6
Jorssen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Belgium Watch: Patek 5711 Posts: 151	I also have my doubts about it being a fake as I've seen it on other ROO's as well.

21 November 2013, 01:10 AM	#7
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	I'm not 100% sure (as I've never owned any AP strap deployant clasps other than the Bee) but I don't ever recall seeing holes in them at the AD.

21 November 2013, 01:12 AM	#8
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Hey Stijn, I am very weary of any holes, a common fake tell, unless someone here does know exactly which series/years had some.

23 November 2013, 11:23 PM	#10
Demonoid 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Logan Location: USA Posts: 2,483	Ok. Bad news Stijn. I just checked my millenary steel and jules audemars chrono gold. Both with the Ap clasp and NO holes in any.

23 November 2013, 11:47 PM	#11
exiger77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Equator Posts: 506	H series ROO, no holes..

25 November 2013, 07:20 PM	#14
Colin W "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: UK Posts: 1,314	F series no holes, not seen a clasp with holes that I can recall.

25 November 2013, 09:48 PM	#16
gummy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,348	None of mine have had holes...

25 November 2013, 11:27 PM	#17
Shawnnyang Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Planet Posts: 256	reputable sellers get duped as well on parts such as clasps and buckles (who most don't pay much attention to). The most convincing lies are those with half truths.

29 November 2013, 11:41 PM	#18
Amme Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: NC Posts: 119	I have seen fake buckles without holes as well so don't just trust the ones you see without holes. Look for the stamp or whatever its called under the screw that holds the bar that goes in to the strap What a terrible explanation but I think you understood :)

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