Can anyone help re: my Daytona?

[sakmygouch]

I've owned my Daytona for almost a year now and i've constantly been having trouble with the automatic movement. I have it in a watch winder whenever it's not in use (an Orbita Monaco 6) however it seems to die after 3-4 days. Does anyone have any insight into this? Has anyone had similar issues? Does anyone have any tricks that they can show me to help remedy this problem??

Thanks
B

[JohnEaton]

What position is the watch in relationship to the movement?

What is the rotation rate?

And is the winder programmable?

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by sakmygouch

I've owned my Daytona for almost a year now and i've constantly been having trouble with the automatic movement. I have it in a watch winder whenever it's not in use (an Orbita Monaco 6) however it seems to die after 3-4 days. Does anyone have any insight into this? Has anyone had similar issues? Does anyone have any tricks that they can show me to help remedy this problem??

Thanks
B

Forgive me if you already know this.

Orbita database shows the Daytona needs to be set for CCW winding at 800-950 revolutions. I have a Daytona and a Monaco 6 Orbita winder and it works fine. Try the up, up, up, dwn settings on the dip switches for CCW at 950.

Should this not work:

Orbita cannot guarantee that this database is perfect as we cannot test every watch. We are only as good as the information that we receive directly from manufacturers or their distributors, from our customers, or through our research. If you cannot find a listing, we suggest that you try the following method to determine your watch winding settings:

1) Place your fully wound automatic watch on your winder (wind by hand).
2) Set your winder to bi-directional winding at 950 TPD.
If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, go to step 3.
If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.
3) Set your winder to clockwise winding at 950 TPD.
If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, go to step 4.
If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.
4) Set your winder to counter-clockwise (anti-clockwise) winding at 950 TPD.
If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, please contact the manufacturer or call us at 910-256-5300.
If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.
Please note: Most watches that wind bi-directionally will be able to wind at all rotational settings: Both, CW, CCW. Watches that wind uni-directionally will only be able to wind in one direction, either CW or CCW.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Funny thing that the Orbita database states the the rotor of the Daytona is mono-directional which it isn't.

[Tools]

Spacey is correct... The Daytona is bi-directional, as are all modern Rolexes. But, that is irrelevent, because if set in one direction then the watch will still wind..

If your winder is working, and the watch dies after several days on the winder, you have a problem with the watch.

It is possible for the self-winding weight to become detached from the winding rotor.

First, ensure that your winder is in fact working.

Second, wind our watch and check for 72 hours of power reserve..

If the power reserve is good, hen it is not self winding.........take it in...

It might be a 15 minute fix, or it could be something more serious...

[sakmygouch]

To help with your questions back to me:

Within the Orbita setting - it is set to 800-950 revs per day. Set at UP, UP, DOWN, UP - i will go ahead and make the adjustment to UP,UP,UP, DOWN to see what happens.

I get the feeling that it's the watch - which scares me a bit. A one year old brand new Daytona having problems?? It's not impossible but i figured i asked around to see if it's that uncommon for this watch to have these issues.

I guess i will need to have to take this into a Rolex store to see if they can look into this a bit more for me. I'd hate to have them tell me that they need to send it back and i won't see it for 2 months.

ONE more question for whomever has the chance to reply:
Stupid question but just wanted to make sure - "Manual wind on the Daytona is counter clockwise correct?"

Thanks
B

[gaijin1]

Originally Posted by sakmygouch

ONE more question for whomever has the chance to reply:
Stupid question but just wanted to make sure - "Manual wind on the Daytona is counter clockwise correct?"

Thanks
B

I must preface my response by saying I do not own a Daytona.

Having said that, however, I do own several automatic watches and every one winds clockwise.

I would be very surprised if the Daytona were different.

This means that when you are looking at trhe crown from the 3 o'clock side of the watch, you should be winding it in a clockwise direction.

If you are only winding CCW, this could be a major part of your problem.


HTH

[Andad]

I'm confused.
Manual winding by the crown is clockwise on all Rolex that I know of. There might be the odd old Rolex that is different but not the more recent movements.
Winding by the auto rotor is clockwise or anti-clockwise but I only run my watch winders in the bi-directional setting so I can't be sure without checking.

[Tools]

Your Daytona winds clockwise (thumb forward over the top). It will unscrew counter-clockwise, and then when free, winds opposite to that.

If you have been putting it on the winder unwound, you cannot get a consistent power reserve....

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by gaijin

I must preface my response by saying I do not own a Daytona.

Having said that, however, I do own several automatic watches and every one winds clockwise.

I would be very surprised if the Daytona were different.

This means that when you are looking at trhe crown from the 3 o'clock side of the watch, you should be winding it in a clockwise direction.

If you are only winding CCW, this could be a major part of your problem.


HTH

The overarching issue isn't how you manually wind the watch, it's how the watch winds itself.

If you're asserting that all watches self wind clockwise, then you have no idea what you're taking about.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Funny thing that the Orbita database states the the rotor of the Daytona is mono-directional which it isn't.

I will let them know they're wrong. Looks like the Zenith El Primero movements wind both ways so it's not old news.

[gaijin1]

Originally Posted by BigHat

The overarching issue isn't how you manually wind the watch, it's how the watch winds itself.

If you're asserting that all watches self wind clockwise, then you have no idea what you're taking about.

I would suggest you read my post again

I was talking about manually winding the watch by turning the crown in a clockwise manner.

Nowhere in my post did I mention self-winding.

Here is the logical thread for your better understanding (as I read it):

Original question: I can manually wind my watch by turning the crown in a counter clockwise manner, correct?

My answer: No, you must turn the crown on your watch in a clockwise manner.

Clear?

HTH

[sleedawg]

Originally Posted by sakmygouch

I've owned my Daytona for almost a year now and i've constantly been having trouble with the automatic movement. I have it in a watch winder whenever it's not in use (an Orbita Monaco 6) however it seems to die after 3-4 days. Does anyone have any insight into this? Has anyone had similar issues? Does anyone have any tricks that they can show me to help remedy this problem??

Thanks
B

B,

I have one question. Is the stopwatch on? If the big "second" hand is moving constantly, the watch will quit in 4 days. I made this mistake my first two weeks of ownership too.

Steve

[spike]

purchased daytona in 02, wore for a few times, placed in lock box. after a few years, starting wearing it again. absolutely would not keep time. sent to service center, and $700 later, it now works.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by gaijin

I would suggest you read my post again

I was talking about manually winding the watch by turning the crown in a clockwise manner.

Nowhere in my post did I mention self-winding.

Here is the logical thread for your better understanding (as I read it):

Original question: I can manually wind my watch by turning the crown in a counter clockwise manner, correct?

My answer: No, you must turn the crown on your watch in a clockwise manner.

Clear?



HTH

[GoldenBear]

Language barriers can be a problem. I have always thought that a Rolex should be wound clock-wise (and not back and forth, like you see in movies from the 40's). Wind it 40-50 times to get a full power reserve. You can't over do it as it has a "protective" device that prevents over-winding. It seems that a properly wound watch, with full power reserve in a winder should stay running. Just my humble opinion.