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Old 8 August 2010, 12:33 AM   #31
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There is another thread on the subject...
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...43#post1981843

definitely sometimes hard to see!
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Old 8 August 2010, 02:33 AM   #32
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I had a hellofa time finding it.. but the led light on an angel and a loop reveiled it. And its at the 6 marker..!
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Old 8 August 2010, 04:19 AM   #33
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Hi chaps after a lot of searching on my DeepSea i finally found it at 6.o clock, my Day Date and my other halfs bimet date just was a lot easier, ime going into my local AD again on monday so i will have another look on the watches we could not find it .
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Old 18 August 2010, 12:15 PM   #34
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My 'K' 14060M has it and that is just after yours in 2001.
The late 2000 - early 2001 14060's might not have it.

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The lec is the one of the last processes that a modern (from around 2000?) Rolex watch goes through as part of anti-counterfeiting measures? and so it will always be at 6 o'clock unless the crystal has been removed and replaced by other than a RSC.
Replacement crystals have the 'S' and their position will be at the discretion of the technician but I would expect it to also be at 6 o'clock.

As for AD's and others not being able to find the lec's on modern Rolex watches IMO the lec's are there.
I know the lec is on my SS Daytona. Sometimes I can see it easily and sometimes it is hard to find even when I know where it is.
The white dials make it much harder hence the problems on white explorers etc.
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Old 18 August 2010, 02:04 PM   #35
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I recently got a SS YM and it is extremely hard to see with the PT dial, but I found it at the 6 with a 10X loop
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Old 18 August 2010, 09:27 PM   #36
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still haven't seen mine but haven't busted out a flashlight light yet either. Will try that soon :)
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Old 18 August 2010, 09:34 PM   #37
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My all new V-Series SS SubC has it at the normal 6 o'clock position!

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Old 18 August 2010, 09:40 PM   #38
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Old 18 August 2010, 09:51 PM   #39
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Old 18 August 2010, 09:52 PM   #40
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After reading this, thought I'd try and find the etching on my new Sub.

So I've looked all round the edge of the crystal with a loupe and can't find it tried edge lighting the crystal as well.

Pretty sure there's no etching on mine, (14060M)
Try shining the light across the face from the left to right side, tricky to find/see, but it's there at the 6 o'clock position
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Old 18 August 2010, 10:06 PM   #41
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Personally I can quote Clark Gable in this one..
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Old 18 August 2010, 10:11 PM   #42
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I also noticed they show up better underwater, but that would be an odd place to find a Rolex

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Old 18 August 2010, 10:22 PM   #43
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Explorers don't have them.
There's an Explorer picture just below your post that shows the etched coronet at ten o'clock.

My Explorer has the EC at six o'clock. It's really not that hard to see when you know where it is, but it does require a high-power magnifying glass and the proper angle to the light for me to see it.

Why do you think that Explorers don't have the EC?
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Old 29 September 2010, 02:03 PM   #44
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Old 29 September 2010, 02:33 PM   #45
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Old 29 September 2010, 07:59 PM   #46
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Old 30 September 2010, 01:54 AM   #47
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Its there. Both my recent Airking and GMT IIc had it. But real difficult to see on the white AirKing.
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Old 30 September 2010, 02:09 AM   #48
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Wow Well I never knew they were there. I've just checked my 2006 Z series sub and my 2010 V series TT GMT IIC and there it was both a 6 o'clock. Also ckecked my Milgauss GV but like Neil has already mentioned it ain't there.

I like little touches like that I think that's what makes Rolex so great.

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Old 30 September 2010, 02:26 AM   #49
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It would be odd if they didn't consistently have it on all watches. The crown was supposed to be one way to address the problem of unauthorized dealers or watchmakers stealing the saphire crystal and replacing it with a lesser quality crystal.
Cannot see any reason for anyone to steal any sapphire crystal, a sapphire crystal is just simply a sapphire crystal.Man made Sapphire crystals are just crystallised aluminium oxide no matter who the manufacture is.And as long as you buy any Rolex from a reliable source why even bother straining your eyes to look for the LEC.
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Old 30 January 2012, 03:33 PM   #50
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No etching on some SDDS

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Hi guys i have just been in my local AD and was speaking about rolexs with the manager, and he says the etched crown has been missing on some models he has had through, we had a look at a Deep Sea with a loop and it was not there, there was allso a gents stainless datejust and that was missing and yes we looked all over the glass and these were brand new watches, the other few watches we looked at was all with the etched crown at 6.0 clock, i came home and looked at my day date and it was there at 6.0 clock, i can not see one on my Deep Sea. has anyone else got it missing.............. Just curious.
I just came back from Rolex Service Center Hong Kong and asked the same question and they told me that indeed some do not have it. They have a coworker at the service center who also has the watch without the etching.
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Old 30 January 2012, 03:44 PM   #51
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Old 30 January 2012, 08:24 PM   #52
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A drop of water at the 6 will magnify it
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Old 30 January 2012, 09:12 PM   #53
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My GMT II and Sub ND both have the LEC at the 6 o'clock position.....
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Old 30 January 2012, 09:40 PM   #54
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I just came back from Rolex Service Center Hong Kong and asked the same question and they told me that indeed some do not have it. They have a coworker at the service center who also has the watch without the etching.
Since the Sea Dweller does not have the Cyclops it can often be found in other spots than at the 6 position. That is if the Sea Dweller is new enough that it would have had it.

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Since the Sea Dweller does not have the Cyclops it can often be found in other spots than at the 6 position. That is if the Sea Dweller is new enough that it would have had it.

Rolex started introducing this feature in 2001.
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Old 13 February 2014, 12:07 AM   #55
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Blast from the past but this thread is actually pretty cool...never knew the crown existed...I have one at 6 o'clock on 16610.
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Old 13 February 2014, 12:13 AM   #56
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I just bought a sub c non date, with the led on my iphone I can see the coronet at the 6 o'clock without using a loupe. Just shine the led light at an angle.
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