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Leerob · 28 February 2008, 03:21 AM

How much difference can you tell when wearing the non-SEL compared to the SEL Bracelet ? My TT Sub is the non-SEL but I think the SEL looks better when on the wrist.

Is there anyway to convert to a SEL Bracelet without having to purchase a new band? It would probably be easier to trade for a newer model that has the SEL.

Thanks for your responses.

Lee

SPACE-DWELLER · 28 February 2008, 03:23 AM

Welcome to TRF!

Some have reported that the non SEL bracelet for the Sub is much more comfortable to wear than the SEL version. I guess it's due to the more flexible non SEL's.

Anyway, here is a chart that shows bracelet options for various sport's Rolex watches:

As you can see, there are two options for the Sub Date, but unfortunately that does not mean that the bracelets are interchangeable. As far as I know you can not add a SEL bracelet on a case intended for a non SEL.

padi56 · 28 February 2008, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leerob

How much difference can you tell when wearing the non-SEL compared to the SEL Bracelet ? My TT Sub is the non-SEL but I think the SEL looks better when on the wrist.

Is there anyway to convert to a SEL Bracelet without having to purchase a new band? It would probably be easier to trade for a newer model that has the SEL.

Thanks for your responses.

Lee

Cannot convert non sel to the Sel,the only difference I have noticed is sometimes non sel bracelets rattle a bit.And apart from that little or no difference the non sel has been on the Sub for a few decades and has stood the time well.But the SEL is a improvement but not a ground shaking must have one at all costs IMHO
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Gurmot · 28 February 2008, 03:50 AM

The non-SEL rattles (at least mine does) a bit more where the end pieces aren't as snug as the SEL. I think the non-SEL's may often feel more comfortable as they are generally older than the SEL versions and have therefore loosened up a bit. My 2007 SD SEL is still quite stiff in the joints around the clasp and therefore not a supple as my old 91350 band which is well broken-in. That said, I find them both very comfortable to wear.

Not a representative sample I'm afraid, just my opinion from ltd experience.

Cheers - Simon

Arturo · 28 February 2008, 03:54 AM

What year did they start the sel end links on the professional line? I have a GMT (2004) and a LV (2007) and they both have solid end links I think.

f16570 · 28 February 2008, 03:57 AM

Is anyone's wrist that sensitive? Or is is more a noise issue?

Tools · 28 February 2008, 04:00 AM

I go back and forth all the time and I can't tell the difference... feel wise..

Leerob · 28 February 2008, 04:27 AM

Thanks Guys, it seems that which ever version you have is more than acceptable as far as being durable and confortable.

Thanks for all the interest and responses.

Lee

mike · 28 February 2008, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Arturo

What year did they start the sel end links on the professional line? I have a GMT (2004) and a LV (2007) and they both have solid end links I think.

The first sport reference to have SELs was the 16660 circa 1981. Others got them later.

I have both. In my own experience one seems to be as comfortable as the other though the SEL bracelet "feels" stronger(that's so subjective). Ease of changing goes to the non-sel and they do tend to rattle a bit after a while. Some have referred to this as the "Rolex rattle" LOL.

I do tend to size them a bit differently. Non-sels are one micro adjustment tighter.....I don't know why.

CoopJr · 28 February 2008, 04:32 AM

I have owned both SEL and non. IMO, I think the SEL is much sturdier.

Ed Rooney · 28 February 2008, 05:01 AM

I had a newish 14060M with non-sel, and now I have a Z-serial SD with the beefy SEL. Non-SEL is a little bit more comfortable, and the SEL is more sturdy. I like both and would simply keep whatever came with the watch.

28 February 2008, 03:21 AM	#1
Leerob "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: cary, nc Posts: 13	SEL Bracelet Versus Non-SEL Bracelet How much difference can you tell when wearing the non-SEL compared to the SEL Bracelet ? My TT Sub is the non-SEL but I think the SEL looks better when on the wrist. Is there anyway to convert to a SEL Bracelet without having to purchase a new band? It would probably be easier to trade for a newer model that has the SEL. Thanks for your responses. Lee

28 February 2008, 03:23 AM	#2
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Welcome to TRF! Some have reported that the non SEL bracelet for the Sub is much more comfortable to wear than the SEL version. I guess it's due to the more flexible non SEL's. Anyway, here is a chart that shows bracelet options for various sport's Rolex watches: As you can see, there are two options for the Sub Date, but unfortunately that does not mean that the bracelets are interchangeable. As far as I know you can not add a SEL bracelet on a case intended for a non SEL. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

28 February 2008, 03:50 AM	#4
Gurmot Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Simon Location: UK Posts: 568	The non-SEL rattles (at least mine does) a bit more where the end pieces aren't as snug as the SEL. I think the non-SEL's may often feel more comfortable as they are generally older than the SEL versions and have therefore loosened up a bit. My 2007 SD SEL is still quite stiff in the joints around the clasp and therefore not a supple as my old 91350 band which is well broken-in. That said, I find them both very comfortable to wear. Not a representative sample I'm afraid, just my opinion from ltd experience. Cheers - Simon Last edited by Gurmot; 28 February 2008 at 04:14 AM.. Reason: I said Fong! I meant Find!

28 February 2008, 03:57 AM	#6
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	Is anyone's wrist that sensitive? Or is is more a noise issue? __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

28 February 2008, 04:00 AM	#7
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	I go back and forth all the time and I can't tell the difference... feel wise.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

28 February 2008, 03:54 AM	#5
Arturo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Arturo Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: Black GMT ll Posts: 1,271	What year did they start the sel end links on the professional line? I have a GMT (2004) and a LV (2007) and they both have solid end links I think.

28 February 2008, 04:27 AM	#8
Leerob "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: cary, nc Posts: 13	Thanks Guys, it seems that which ever version you have is more than acceptable as far as being durable and confortable. Thanks for all the interest and responses. Lee

28 February 2008, 04:32 AM	#10
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	I have owned both SEL and non. IMO, I think the SEL is much sturdier.

28 February 2008, 05:01 AM	#11
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I had a newish 14060M with non-sel, and now I have a Z-serial SD with the beefy SEL. Non-SEL is a little bit more comfortable, and the SEL is more sturdy. I like both and would simply keep whatever came with the watch.

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