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Old 12 June 2014, 12:02 PM   #1
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Hey everyone nice to meet you all. Dad purchased both of these used at separate times. ( the black one is from bradley gough Fort Wayne Indiana here in town and gave me the black one as a gift. He bought the gold one some years ago and dont remember where from as i was young. I wouldn't even be questioning this other then the crown on the clasp on the black sub is a lot more flattened then on the gold one. Possibly just more used and abused I guess? Let me know what you all think. Thanks for the help







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Old 12 June 2014, 12:06 PM   #2
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Both watches appear OK, and the reason for the coronet wear on the 16610 is just from over polishing (refinishing) to the clasp!

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Old 12 June 2014, 12:27 PM   #3
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ok thanks for the help. Some day may have to get a new clasp as it drives me nuts how it is so polished down. Unless there is an easy way to swap the clasp around so the better looking one is on the black sub. Oh well either way glad to have got a beautiful watch! Thanks for the welcome
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Old 12 June 2014, 12:29 PM   #4
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also what year range would the gold and blue sub be as there is no lume on the dial?
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Old 12 June 2014, 12:36 PM   #5
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Old 12 June 2014, 02:13 PM   #6
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Old 12 June 2014, 02:14 PM   #7
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If you are not sending the watches back to Rolex to be polished be very careful who you do send them to. Every polisher who can polish jewelry thinks they can also handle Rolex watches. They usually just end up wearing down the case, embossed crown, and bezel.
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Old 13 June 2014, 09:55 AM   #8
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What are my options now that the crown I my clasp on the silver one has been worn down
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Old 13 June 2014, 09:56 AM   #9
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Also is there any option to switch the clasp from one watch to the other
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Old 13 June 2014, 12:45 PM   #10
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You can indeed replace just that part but it's going to be tough to find that part and probably a little on the pricey side.

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Old 13 June 2014, 09:11 PM   #11
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how would i go about swapping the one from the blue watch to the one from the black watch? Is this something i can do at home or would i have to have a professional do it
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Old 13 June 2014, 10:06 PM   #12
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looking good on both!
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Old 14 June 2014, 01:24 AM   #13
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Those clasps are for sale here all the time in the "for sale:Rolex parts etc" section. You can get one for around $200. Send a message to Springer, he always has some good ones on hand.
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Old 15 June 2014, 10:39 AM   #14
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how do you take them off can you do it with a tool?
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Old 15 June 2014, 12:46 PM   #15
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I personally think replacing that clasp is a mistake. The crown is not that worn down at all. Take a look in the classifieds section on this site and you will see far worse on many pieces that are for sale. Plus the existing clasp has a date code stamp that corresponds to the manufacture date of the watch.

As far as the age of the two-tone Sub, it could be anywhere from late 1980's to late 1990's. You would need to remove the bracelet at the 6 o'clock position to observe the serial # and know for sure.
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Old 15 June 2014, 03:59 PM   #16
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They both look good to me. Nice pair
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Old 17 June 2014, 11:00 AM   #17
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Not an expert but look ok to me, and I wouldn't change anything if I were you
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