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seanneok11 · 20 June 2014, 02:33 PM

Should I trade my pam 233 dot dial for a ap royal oak chrono 39mm? I'm adding 3k for the trade! Need help!! I currently have a ap rubberclad and ss daytona and the hulk.

Cru Jones · 20 June 2014, 03:39 PM

I would rather keep the 233. It's an awesome and robust watch and it fits better (IMHO) with your collection (you already have 2 chronos - one of which is the Daytona, so you have dress-up chrono covered). Plus, yours is a dot dial.

That being said, it seems like a pretty good trade and the ROC is really beautiful.

Good luck with the choice!

Time Collector · 20 June 2014, 05:19 PM

I would keep the 233, The strap game keeps this watch interesting to me, I also agree with Cru Jones as well.

masterserg · 20 June 2014, 10:36 PM

I'd keep the 233. The best PAM in my opinion.

DreambreaX · 21 June 2014, 03:32 AM

Pam!!!!

ralpie · 21 June 2014, 05:32 AM

I'd go AP, keep the 233 and sell the Daytona. I realize that wasn't the question, but that is what I would do.

echau · 21 June 2014, 06:08 AM

I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. The ROC is a beaut!

kilyung · 21 June 2014, 06:15 AM

I'd take the deal. The ROC is spectacular.

HL65 · 21 June 2014, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

I'd take the deal. The ROC is spectacular.

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ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 21 June 2014, 06:51 AM

233 is nice but 3k more for an ROC seems like a more than fair deal. In fact a great one, go for it !
Sadly I am in the for sale section so much its crazy that I remember the used pricing I see for all these models LOL.

seanneok11 · 21 June 2014, 09:20 AM

Done deal pics to come soon, paneristis ill be back thinking of getting a pam sub for a beater. 233 was too nice and my problem was the case of the pam. Can't differentiate a 233 to a gmt far away. Panerai needs to do some drastic change or introduce a new case. Just my humble opinon. Thanks everyone.

AK797 · 21 June 2014, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

I'd take the deal. The ROC is spectacular.

srvrf · 21 June 2014, 09:57 AM

Congrats! The 39mm ROC is a great watch. I got rid of my Daytona for the ROC and haven't looked back. I do have a 121 as a sporty, but smaller PAM. I agree that most PAMs look the same and their model numbers are nearly random. You sound like you're consolidating and moving up so probably won't miss the PAM. Your Daytona is probably starting to sweat a little...

kilyung · 21 June 2014, 10:02 AM

Sweet! Look at getting a 111 or 372 to backfill the PAM.

seanneok11 · 21 June 2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by srvrf

Congrats! The 39mm ROC is a great watch. I got rid of my Daytona for the ROC and haven't looked back. I do have a 121 as a sporty, but smaller PAM. I agree that most PAMs look the same and their model numbers are nearly random. You sound like you're consolidating and moving up so probably won't miss the PAM. Your Daytona is probably starting to sweat a little...

the daytona is safe, that was my first expensive watch so it has sentimental value. To be honest all my rolexes have not gotten any wrist time, rubberclad has been hogging it up. That's gonna change with the royalmoak chronograph.

srvrf · 21 June 2014, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by seanneok11

the daytona is safe, that was my first expensive watch so it has sentimental value. To be honest all my rolexes have not gotten any wrist time, rubberclad has been hogging it up. That's gonna change with the royalmoak chronograph.

That's what I thought because my Daytona was almost twice as much as my other watches. But it wouldn't surprise me if your toughest and most frequent decision will be "Rubberclad or ROC?" Great dilemma to have!

Cru Jones · 21 June 2014, 03:55 PM

Nice! Congrats! 39mm ROC is pretty spectacular.

A nice 005/111/000 and you get the PAM "feel" for less cash and can keep using your straps.

masterserg · 21 June 2014, 11:04 PM

Nice! Congrats! Look forward to see the pictures!

Hairdude1 · 21 June 2014, 11:06 PM

Go for the ROC it is so nice

MrJ320 · 23 June 2014, 11:32 AM

Congrats on your choice. I had both the 233 and 39mm ROC so I am glad I didn't have to make the tough decision between the two. The ROC is amazing and to be honest even when I had both I went for the ROC more often than the 233 since it is so versatile. Looking forward to the wrist shots.

For me the 233 is the one with sentimental value so hard to let that one go.

20 June 2014, 02:33 PM	#1
seanneok11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: Sean Location: Los Angeles Watch: Ap,rolex, rolex Posts: 172	Pam 233 or 39 mm ap roc Should I trade my pam 233 dot dial for a ap royal oak chrono 39mm? I'm adding 3k for the trade! Need help!! I currently have a ap rubberclad and ss daytona and the hulk.

20 June 2014, 05:19 PM	#3
Time Collector "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Anthony Location: California Watch: Rolex/AP/Panerai Posts: 1,641	I would keep the 233, The strap game keeps this watch interesting to me, I also agree with Cru Jones as well. __________________ "You can never buy back Time, so spend it wisely."

20 June 2014, 10:36 PM	#4
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	I'd keep the 233. The best PAM in my opinion. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

21 June 2014, 11:04 PM	#18
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Nice! Congrats! Look forward to see the pictures! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

21 June 2014, 11:06 PM	#19
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Go for the ROC it is so nice __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

20 June 2014, 03:39 PM	#2
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,299	I would rather keep the 233. It's an awesome and robust watch and it fits better (IMHO) with your collection (you already have 2 chronos - one of which is the Daytona, so you have dress-up chrono covered). Plus, yours is a dot dial. That being said, it seems like a pretty good trade and the ROC is really beautiful. Good luck with the choice!

21 June 2014, 03:32 AM	#5
DreambreaX Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Rolex Estate Posts: 1,304	Pam!!!!

21 June 2014, 05:32 AM	#6
ralpie 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Ral P Location: Northeast Posts: 2,405	I'd go AP, keep the 233 and sell the Daytona. I realize that wasn't the question, but that is what I would do.

21 June 2014, 06:08 AM	#7
echau "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 350	I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. The ROC is a beaut!

21 June 2014, 06:15 AM	#8
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	I'd take the deal. The ROC is spectacular.

21 June 2014, 06:51 AM	#10
ELITEVIDEOGAMES "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tom Location: Long Island NY Watch: me sell games Posts: 1,898	233 is nice but 3k more for an ROC seems like a more than fair deal. In fact a great one, go for it ! Sadly I am in the for sale section so much its crazy that I remember the used pricing I see for all these models LOL.

21 June 2014, 09:20 AM	#11
seanneok11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: Sean Location: Los Angeles Watch: Ap,rolex, rolex Posts: 172	Done deal pics to come soon, paneristis ill be back thinking of getting a pam sub for a beater. 233 was too nice and my problem was the case of the pam. Can't differentiate a 233 to a gmt far away. Panerai needs to do some drastic change or introduce a new case. Just my humble opinon. Thanks everyone.

21 June 2014, 09:57 AM	#13
srvrf 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Steve Location: Indiana Watch: PP/AP/VC Posts: 2,156	Congrats! The 39mm ROC is a great watch. I got rid of my Daytona for the ROC and haven't looked back. I do have a 121 as a sporty, but smaller PAM. I agree that most PAMs look the same and their model numbers are nearly random. You sound like you're consolidating and moving up so probably won't miss the PAM. Your Daytona is probably starting to sweat a little...

21 June 2014, 10:02 AM	#14
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Sweet! Look at getting a 111 or 372 to backfill the PAM.

21 June 2014, 03:55 PM	#17
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,299	Nice! Congrats! 39mm ROC is pretty spectacular. A nice 005/111/000 and you get the PAM "feel" for less cash and can keep using your straps.

23 June 2014, 11:32 AM	#20
MrJ320 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: James Location: Toronto Watch: IG: @j.project Posts: 2,194	Congrats on your choice. I had both the 233 and 39mm ROC so I am glad I didn't have to make the tough decision between the two. The ROC is amazing and to be honest even when I had both I went for the ROC more often than the 233 since it is so versatile. Looking forward to the wrist shots. For me the 233 is the one with sentimental value so hard to let that one go.

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