Mental Issues with your Rolex

[gwozhog]

If the internet says its iconic what more proof do you need. You must believe it and then buy it.

[apm101]

I generally buy my expensive watches pre-owned. saves a raft of cash, and makes my hobby easier to get past the wife!!!

[Dan Pierce]

Never has a thread title been more appropriate.
dP

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Never has a thread title been more appropriate.
dP

Haha, I thought it was gonna be another Rolex picture thread. I'll go and get my old straight jacket out the closet for a photo with my watch.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Stealerboy.

So that's how Ken got to own all those fantastic watches.

[AK797]

Gotta go against the grain here and say the OP, and all OPs, should buy only these specific watches. They just happen to be the ones I like most... First is the...

[jhcam8]

Whatever floats your boat, mate. If you only want pieces with your name on the warranty - dozo and good luck!

[jack81]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Stealerboy.

So that's how Ken got to own all those fantastic watches.

Hahahaha

[REFZ]

Write your name on the warranty card and the problem is solved.

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by msdaytona

I have to ask Tom...how do you know that the AD didn't open the plastic box and touch the watch to show someone and then put it back?

I prefer my watches to be untouched. It makes no sense to others but it's important to me.

one I have a good relationship with him and he knows what is important to his customer so...
two when they arrive believe me you can tell if they have been opened, for example in my picture, was already opened after I saw it to have the watchmaker size it, it doesn't have the white form strip over the face

Originally Posted by pacific17

all I can say is, Tom is right.

I am really starting to like you

[mfserge]

I'm confused, you start out by saying that you will never sell your watches, then below you said you've considered selling one of your watches??

[lmcgbaj]

Originally Posted by autohorology

I have the same sentiments with regard to the name on the certificate. I have somehow never managed to keep a watch that I bought "used" or that didn't have my name on the cert.

There's no real explanation for it, it might even be irrational, but I too feel like it officially makes the watch "mine." Like that specific serial number and birth record is registered directly to me...

I feel exactly the same for my " keepers ".

I once sold a perfectly functional watch because I was planning to keep it and I needed my name on the papers. Paid 2k extra and got it new. Same watch, same model.

Unfortunately, I still flipped it afterwards.

[g-boac]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Mark your AD is feeding you a bunch of crap. The watches in the case are handled and taken in and out every day. For me never good enough to buy ( I have already admitted I have issues)

I have the AD get in the watch I am interested in. I handle it try it on and take pics. When I am sure I want it I tell the AD to order the watch from Rolex. They do, it comes in in plastic coffin untouched, they call I go!

That is how I do it and any AD will order you the watch you want, you don't have to settle, it is your watch and you tell them what you want, or you change AD's

Hope that helps

Hi Tom - thanks for your reply, that is super news. That is EXACTLY how it went for my Omega Speedmaster Professional (I wanted a brand new one to compliment the two calibre Ω321 vintage pieces I had), and the classic Seamaster Planet Ocean. I called, they ordered, and I opened the plastic case (it looks slightly different than the Rolex coffin, but same concept). The ordered on a Monday, it was there on a Thursday.

I appreciate the insight.

cheers,
Mark

[g-boac]

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Hi Tom - Thanks again for your reply. Is the plastic case unique to the watch you're buying? For example, the Omega plastic case has a silver foil label on the side of it, about the dimension of a mailing label, that has the watch reference number and S/N (in addition to a serialized hangtag, with SN and MSRP). Is the Rolex case the same (with label), or are the cases entirely generic and interchangeable?

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by g-boac

Hi Tom - Thanks again for your reply. Is the plastic case unique to the watch you're buying? For example, the Omega plastic case has a silver foil label on the side of it, about the dimension of a mailing label, that has the watch reference number and S/N (in addition to a serialized hangtag, with SN and MSRP). Is the Rolex case the same (with label), or are the cases entirely generic and interchangeable?

the cases only vary by size to accommodate the watch, i.e. the DSSD was obviously bigger than my Daytona. No markings on the plastic box just paper stickers with numbers nothing cool

[locutus49]

As to having your name on the card, I have no opinion. It only matters for warrantee reasons to me. Otherwise, I don't care.

As to collecting strategy, etc., that is highly personal. For example, I would feel the opposite of you: I own a Hulk so I want my next Rolex to be as different looking as possible so when I rotate them it does not feel like I'm wearing the same watch.

And I prefer watches that stand out from the crowd, so I don't want the black Sub that everyone else owns, regardless of it being an "icon." That is why I went for the Green. But that is me. The great thing about owning or collecting anything is you can do it in a way that reflects your own personality.

[Roll the Lex]

Originally Posted by nugohszz

1: I never plan to sell any of my watches

Same here.

Originally Posted by nugohszz

2: my ultimate goal is to have the collection of most iconic watches(including history) such as the sub, daytona, Ap RO, natilus,speedy, you probaly get what i mean by now.

This will change. You can have a plan, but it will change. Unless you have the money to buy everything right now. Your plan sounds grand, but have you tried on all of these watches? You may hate the RO on your wrist, but love the ROO. You may love the speedy but then feel that the daytona is pointless as you love your speedy more than a daytona and would rather use that cash to fund a PP Aquanaut because the Nautilus just doesn't work on your wrist. For all you know, Rolex or whoever may come out with a new watch that you fall in love with.

The other thing is that do you want that many watches? I have two and I struggle between choosing which one to wear. I think 2 is plenty, 3 is too much for me alone but I figure I can share with the wife.

For my second watch, I planned on the hulk. Logically the hulk made sense- I never had a green watch, it was something I would feel comfortable wearing to work. Then I tried on the Bluesy at the AD's recommendation. I thought two-tone is tacky, ugly, pointless, and for idiots. But I'll humor the guy and well now I have a bluesy. Love the watch.

Originally Posted by nugohszz

Problem 1: Name on Certificate
- I have watches such as the PAM320 which i bought new from AD and even though It doesnt get much wrist time i still feel that it has sentimental value to me and is "my watch". On the other hand i have the hulk which gets most of my wrist time (BNIb from trusted seller) and which i love the most, however, i have had thoughts of selling it to fund other watches faster, i think this is because i dot have my name on the card, Do any of you have any problems to this?

I'd really think about the sentimental value- otherwise all your watches will have sentimental value- I bought this on my 30th, this was when I got a promotion, this watch was bought the year I ate a crave case on my own. I'd say be ruthless- only keep one with sentimental value that you bought. Gifts and inherited watches are exempt.

Yeah I want my name on it and like it BNIB. But that being said, if you've already have it in your collection, keep it. It's pointless to sell it off then buy another one. Unless you've got so much cash that it's not a big deal. For my last watch, I'm open to used as I'm going to stretch for a solid gold piece.

Originally Posted by nugohszz

Problem 2:Material/ Colour
-As much as i love my hulk i think that if i want to stick to my goal which is to have one iconic model of each then the Sub-c Black would be the way to go.

- I feel that steel / whitegold (basically silver) watches are the way to go, i think the collection looks much more "symetrical" if you get what i mean.
EG. Do any of your problems with having: RG daytona, Bluesy, Hulk, YG GMT, RG Ap Ro in the same collection?

If you love the Hulk, keep the hulk- it's still a sub and still iconic. I would never, ever wear the black sub-c. I love the sub, but want color- so if you need a sub-c, it's the hulk, bluesy, or the YG model. That's me.

Personally I'd be BORED with a a collection that's all one color- whether it's all platinum, YG, RG, SS. I'm doing the exact opposite of you. Another reason why I went bluesy over hulk.

First watch was a SS Explorer I
Second watch, is a TT bluesy
Third watch, I'm planning a solid RG model- right now it's either a 36mm DD or the Daytona. And who knows? Maybe it might be a JLC MUT PC... I'm keeping my options open, but it HAS to be RG. I love YG but I don't want more of the same.

These are my opinions and others may totally disagree which is fine. But this is what I want from my collection. There is no right or wrong- well there is a wrong way of doing this and it's not going with your gut or trying to buy these things using logic (except of course when it comes to the question of can you afford it). There's gotta be an emotional pull to these things, otherwise why spend so much? And don't say for investment purposes. Chances are, your sub-c will NOT make headlines for hodinkee in 2030.

[jrpippen]

First weld
Problems mate, but nice problems.

[Jeffa32]

Very funny thread. Love the OCD admissions.

I like my watches to be well looked after, but at the end of the day, they are just watches. They will be worn and they will get scratched.

Regards to name on papers - doesn't bother me if a get a fantastic deal on a watch from a trust seller here.

I am looking to collect a variety of brands (as seen in my signature), looking to add at AP next. My only rule is no yellow gold.

[msdaytona]

[QUOTE=tkerrmd;5214160]one I have a good relationship with him and he knows what is important to his customer so...
two when they arrive believe me you can tell if they have been opened, for example in my picture, was already opened after I saw it to have the watchmaker size it, it doesn't have the white form strip over the face.
[/QUOTE ]

Is the coffin taped in a way that lets the person know it was reopened?

I have never seen the coffin itself so I can't compare.

[tkerrmd]

[QUOTE=msdaytona;5232502]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

one I have a good relationship with him and he knows what is important to his customer so...
two when they arrive believe me you can tell if they have been opened, for example in my picture, was already opened after I saw it to have the watchmaker size it, it doesn't have the white form strip over the face.
[/QUOTE ]

Is the coffin taped in a way that lets the person know it was reopened?

I have never seen the coffin itself so I can't compare.

yup

[DiamondJack]

I am with you on the iconic watch collection front and that has been at the heart of my own collection....... See thread below;

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=319315

So if you are serious about collecting iconic watches, you will inevitably need to buy some vintage and pre-owned and you will simply have to accept them without your name on the guarantee....... Unless of course you have a time machine.

I caveat mine by only collecting watches with full sets so boxes and paper and ideally all the trimmings.....so little time capsules....... But it makes absolutely no difference to me or any watch collector I know in terms of the name on the guarantee. The watch and its condition take precedence

[msdaytona]

[QUOTE=tkerrmd;5232515]

Originally Posted by msdaytona

yup

Can the AD retape it to cover their tracks?
Talk about ocd ☺

[changzilla]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Mark your AD is feeding you a bunch of crap. The watches in the case are handled and taken in and out every day. For me never good enough to buy ( I have already admitted I have issues)

I have the AD get in the watch I am interested in. I handle it try it on and take pics. When I am sure I want it I tell the AD to order the watch from Rolex. They do, it comes in in plastic coffin untouched, they call I go!

That is how I do it and any AD will order you the watch you want, you don't have to settle, it is your watch and you tell them what you want, or you change AD's

Hope that helps

You have a very nice collection (watches and autos)! Just out of curiosity then, do you not buy from trusted sellers here on TRF? After all, you did say you had issues. :-)