16610 Outside Specification

[Jedi]

My SubDate returned from the RSC last year in September. It settled in fine after a month, and was running +2.5/day. After wearing it for a few weeks here and there, I put her down to wear my ExpyII as a daily wearer. I figured that my SubDate deserved a rest after being worn for 10 years straight.

I decided to strap on the SubDate yesterday (it's back on today after resting overnight dial down) and away we went.

This morning, I just checked it, 24 hours or so after I'd wound and set it, and we're now at +8/sec. This is not a nice find, and every rational neuron I have says wait a couple of days, and the irrational ones are prodding me to drop everything, zip down to the RSC with the One Year Service Warranty and ask, nay, demand to see a tech and get the watch regulated.

So to add to the confusion, I'm asking the question, RSC or holding pattern?

[Jedi]

Help?

Anyone?

[Jedi]

Guys... I'm dying here... help??...

[BiG JeEzY]

Hi Lee! Its me Jerome, here to the rescue!! Hold on let me take a moment to read your thread first, haha.

[Jedi]

BASTIDS!!!!!!

[BiG JeEzY]

Lee, I say you take the Sub Date down to the RSC as soon as possible to have it regulated. I know I would, especially since its still within one year from the service. If it was just serviced within a year, I'd expect the watch to run at a better accuracy than that.

+8 sec/day is a little too fast for my liking. It is also out of the COSC specs. I say get it regulated. There's no reason to feel upset about your watch, I say you take it in and make sure they do the job right!

[KevinisGQ]

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Lee, I say you take the Sub Date down to the RSC as soon as possible to have it regulated. I know I would, especially since its still within one year from the service. If it was just serviced within a year, I'd expect the watch to run at a better accuracy than that.

+8 sec/day is a little too fast for my liking. It is also out of the COSC specs. I say get it regulated. There's no reason to feel upset about your watch, I say you take it in and make sure they do the job right!

Great to have someone like you on the forum Jerome

[BiG JeEzY]

Originally Posted by KevinisGQ

Great to have someone like you on the forum Jerome

Thank you for the very kind words KevinisGQ! I really appreciate it. Of course one of the reasons why I'm here in the forums is not to just enjoy but offer my advice to people who need it. I also like educating newcomers and learning more things from the experts.

You sure get all of that here in the forums which is what makes it such a great place.

[Baptistman]

First is it wound fully? Second it's possible after ten days the oils have pooled and need to be re-distributed, as long as the watch has not had a shock, or subjected to other variables since putting it to rest, I would not worry to much. wear it and see if it settles down again.

[scottschoe]

I say give it a full wind, and monitor it for 3 more days. If it doesn't settle down by then, send it back.

[Jedi]

Checklist:

1. It was serviced back in October or so.

2. I wound it up fully before wearing it.

3. It was +8/seconds over 24 hours this morning.

4. It sat on the dresser crown down for 7 hours while I slept.

5. It is now 32 hours after first winding up and it's still at +8 overall.

[Jedi]

And thanks Jerome... you're a STAR!!! no, a SUPERSTAR!!

[BiG JeEzY]

Originally Posted by Jedi

And thanks Jerome... you're a STAR!!! no, a SUPERSTAR!!

Thank you Lee, I really appreciate the kind words! From your checklist, its obvious to see that your Sub is running consistently at +8 sec/day. You did your part of giving the watch some time and allowing it to settle down. Apparently is still has not. So, after you send it in to get regulated, may you enjoy a flawlessly running timepiece for a long time to come my friend!

[Jedi]

Damn them idiot RSC people. You see guys, RSC are not infallible. This piece was serviced and was running at +2.5sec/day then whoops, suddenly... +8/day.

I'm going to wear it till Saturday and do a final log and then take it in next week.

I'm going to speak with the tech and go through my own rate deviation observations and get him to regulate accordingly.

[Jedi]

And Jerome, it's been 36 hours or so, and I never wear a watch to sleep when at home, so the 7 hour rest each day for my daily wearer is mandatory.

I think what I'm gonna do is a combination of both options. Watch a bit and then bring in if it's off.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

I've experienced the same thing with some of the Rolex watches I've had, Lee. I was also quite frustrated by this but simply stopped the second's hand and adjusted the time again. This seemed to help. I don't know why, but it did.

[Jedi]

There you go Bo! I've had this with my Explorer II as well, and my GMT-II Pepsi skips to +2 straight after setting and then keeps steady at +1/day.

It's great once it's running, but you know, I have watches that I only wear on weekends and in the evenings and surprise surprise, they don't do this. Patek is regular as regular does and FP Journe, simply astounding.

[unclesallie]

RSC. Make em fix it. Simple as that.
best,
good luck,
dan

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Hi Lee! Its me Jerome, here to the rescue!! Hold on let me take a moment to read your thread first, haha.

lol!!! BTW nice explaination, Jerome.

[tomc1944]

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Tom, to an extend, yes. But it seems that the "Positional Correction" rules do not apply so much to the modern, fastbeat Rolex movts. At least that's my experience.

[mike]

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Tom, to an extend, yes. But it seems that the "Positional Correction" rules do not apply so much to the modern, fastbeat Rolex movts. At least that's my experience.

Yeah, that affects older movements more so than newer in my experience. You might get a second or two (maybe), but a consistent +8 needs a turn of the screw.

[Jedi]

+3 seconds after 18 hours, dial up for 7 hours overnight as usual. Will re-set at 24 hours and leave dial down and see again tomorrow.

[BiG JeEzY]

Originally Posted by Jedi

+3 seconds after 18 hours, dial up for 7 hours overnight as usual. Will re-set at 24 hours and leave dial down and see again tomorrow.

Hmm, that seems a lot better than the +8 sec/day you have reported before. Maybe your watch is starting to settle down but its still not the 2.5 sec/day that it used to be huh?

Great to hear that it improved. Dial up is usually when it would gain some slight time too but not by much.

[Jedi]

Okay... two days after the last re-set, that's 48 hours...

and we're at +8/day.

Off to RSC on Monday.

[BiG JeEzY]

Originally Posted by Jedi

Okay... two days after the last re-set, that's 48 hours...

and we're at +8/day.

Off to RSC on Monday.

Sounds like a good plan Lee. Let us know how the regulation goes and how it keeps time afterwards.

I remember your thread about the Expy II being whacked around a few times, hope thats keeping better time too!

[Jedi]

Holding steady at +8.75/day despite having been left crown down over the weekend, that's about 40 hours of lying down. Wore it for about 8 hours today.

[oneillba]

Lee, you have done all the right things and should expect your watch to run to spec. I would take it back to the RSC and have them re-calibrate it. It is under warranty and service is not cheap as you know!

[Jedi]

Brian, I'll be going in armed with my timing logs. RSC techs here in KL are notorious for not coming out to speak with customers, leaving you to deal with a couple of attractive, but unfortunately, sometimes insufficiently knowledgeable ladies at the front counter.

[Rolex_07]

How old is the watch? If it is considered vintage, anything less than +10 per day is excellent. (1960's or around that period)

If its not vintage, bring it to RSC. And because it was running fast before (+2.5 seconds) when you're not wearing it, leave it crown up. (See post above mine)

Hope this helps!