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Javaaa · 4 March 2015, 09:38 PM

Hi, I'm in the market for a Tudor Submariner 76100 with lollipop hands and found this one on eBay. The seller says the serial number starts with 121, meaning the build is from 1984-1985. I tried to find this number in the Tudor serial number chart but all numbers seem to start much higher. What do you think, is this real?

TudorSnowflake · 5 March 2015, 08:32 AM

No photos of other side between lugs or of the movement?

Javaaa · 5 March 2015, 08:41 AM

No, not of the movement. He sent me these additional pics (attached). This is the listing on eBay.
Thanks

drifter01 · 5 March 2015, 12:17 PM

64 feedbacks and nothing of that value.....I would pass. Also...look at the hour hand in pic one...why is the uppe4r edge of the round part clipped? Looks fishy.

TudorSnowflake · 5 March 2015, 12:52 PM

I will look between the lugs of mine tonight but the hands look fake... maybe replacements? Dial looks like a replacement. Band and diver's extension look like mine do.

You'd need a straight on shot of the date/cyclops to see how that looks... and a photo of the movement. If everything else checks out then I'd consider... if the price was good. But the hands bother me.

TudorSnowflake · 6 March 2015, 12:36 PM

I looked at mine and the "STAINLESS STEEL" and model number looked to be the same.

I still say dial and hands have been swapped.

Old Expat Beast · 6 March 2015, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drifter01

64 feedbacks and nothing of that value.....I would pass. Also...look at the hour hand in pic one...why is the uppe4r edge of the round part clipped? Looks fishy.

Looks ok to me.The 'clipped' hour hand is just shadow from the cyclops.

Javaaa · 7 March 2015, 01:15 AM

Thanks guys! I've asked the seller about the hour hand and he said: it's not bended, it's a very very light 'deburring' that you can see only by macro picture (i used a macro camera lens) not visible only by eye. I'll ask him for pics of the movement and cyclops.

Javaaa · 7 March 2015, 01:22 AM

I also came across this really beautiful 7016: http://www.2dehands.be/bijoux-horlog...227107267.html

It's offered on a Dutch online marketplace. The seller could give me quite a lot of details:
ETA 2483 caliber
Rolex 702 Triplock crown
Fat font insert
Big bubble seconds hand
Folded 7836 steel strap
Build year: '72-'73
Dial is original
Original glass has been replaced by a domed glass
It keeps time (runs on cosc specs, 2 to 3 secs late per 24 hours)

What do you think?

4 March 2015, 09:38 PM	#1
Javaaa "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 24	Tudor Sub 76100 real or fake? Hi, I'm in the market for a Tudor Submariner 76100 with lollipop hands and found this one on eBay. The seller says the serial number starts with 121, meaning the build is from 1984-1985. I tried to find this number in the Tudor serial number chart but all numbers seem to start much higher. What do you think, is this real? Attached Images

5 March 2015, 08:41 AM	#3
Javaaa "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 24	No, not of the movement. He sent me these additional pics (attached). This is the listing on eBay. Thanks Attached Images

5 March 2015, 12:17 PM	#4
drifter01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NC Watch: 5500 Air-King Posts: 633	64 feedbacks and nothing of that value.....I would pass. Also...look at the hour hand in pic one...why is the uppe4r edge of the round part clipped? Looks fishy. __________________ Dave Ace of Clubs "Never mind the track. The track is for punks. We are Road People. We are Cafe Racers." - Hunter S. Thompson

5 March 2015, 08:32 AM	#2
TudorSnowflake "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Erf Watch: Heritage Ranger Posts: 225	No photos of other side between lugs or of the movement?

5 March 2015, 12:52 PM	#5
TudorSnowflake "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Erf Watch: Heritage Ranger Posts: 225	I will look between the lugs of mine tonight but the hands look fake... maybe replacements? Dial looks like a replacement. Band and diver's extension look like mine do. You'd need a straight on shot of the date/cyclops to see how that looks... and a photo of the movement. If everything else checks out then I'd consider... if the price was good. But the hands bother me.

6 March 2015, 12:36 PM	#6
TudorSnowflake "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Erf Watch: Heritage Ranger Posts: 225	I looked at mine and the "STAINLESS STEEL" and model number looked to be the same. I still say dial and hands have been swapped.

7 March 2015, 01:15 AM	#8
Javaaa "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 24	Thanks guys! I've asked the seller about the hour hand and he said: it's not bended, it's a very very light 'deburring' that you can see only by macro picture (i used a macro camera lens) not visible only by eye. I'll ask him for pics of the movement and cyclops.

7 March 2015, 01:22 AM	#9
Javaaa "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 24	I also came across this really beautiful 7016: http://www.2dehands.be/bijoux-horlog...227107267.html It's offered on a Dutch online marketplace. The seller could give me quite a lot of details: ETA 2483 caliber Rolex 702 Triplock crown Fat font insert Big bubble seconds hand Folded 7836 steel strap Build year: '72-'73 Dial is original Original glass has been replaced by a domed glass It keeps time (runs on cosc specs, 2 to 3 secs late per 24 hours) What do you think?

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