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Old 27 March 2015, 11:26 PM   #1
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GMT 2 16760 query

Hello

newbe here, but not a rolex newbie ( has a few when I was single man in the last century)

Recently got an old GMT 2 16760 with the coke bezel from an established secondary retailer (BL/RE bezel)

when doing my backlground, I checked the detail on the serial numbers

Top lug detial: 16760
Bottom lug detail : serial number 439****


now this doesnt seem tight to me - the 16760 GMT2 should have started in the 80s but the bottom lug number suggests a 1975 model


Any oprinions on this ?

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Old 28 March 2015, 10:10 AM   #2
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Sounds like a new case..

(the 16760 only came with the red/black insert, nothing else)
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Old 28 March 2015, 06:20 PM   #3
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Old 28 March 2015, 06:31 PM   #4
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I'm with Larry. Replacement cases back in the day were in the 4.4mil range.
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Old 28 March 2015, 09:16 PM   #5
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aha

that could make sense- I didnt know this

so they used new/ old stock cases for case replacement, but obviously then added the model type engraving as they reshelled the watch

hence the correct 16760 number on an older stockroom case ?
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Old 28 March 2015, 09:27 PM   #6
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Interesting.

I thought replacement cases started at 4.4...
close enough..
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Old 28 March 2015, 09:30 PM   #7
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aha

that could make sense- I didnt know this

so they used new/ old stock cases for case replacement, but obviously then added the model type engraving as they reshelled the watch

hence the correct 16760 number on an older stockroom case ?
More likely the original case was so badly damaged that it was replaced later on, if this is indeed, as seems likely, a replacement case.
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Old 28 March 2015, 10:24 PM   #8
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Some snaps FYI

I didnt know they recased & updated with the specific model type

anyway

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Old 28 March 2015, 10:35 PM   #9
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The 16760 was a unique case to that reference, afaik.
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Did the seller disclose that the watch had a replacement case? As you probably know, re-cased watches can take a hit on the re-sale market.
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Old 29 March 2015, 01:10 AM   #11
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The 16760 was a unique case to that reference, afaik.
Spot on Adam.

Not only the case a bit thicker, but the crown guards as well.

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Old 29 March 2015, 01:28 AM   #12
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Did the seller disclose that the watch had a replacement case? As you probably know, re-cased watches can take a hit on the re-sale market.

no, never disclosed

I have mailed the seller to discuss and waiting their response

have also spken to the credit card issuer and should it get messy, I can get it reviewed by an AD to back up what the situation is & get a "not as described" chargeback action going

If however the watch is down with Rolex as a recorded recase, then I would be happy to hold it



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Spot on Adam.

Hot only the case a bit thicker, but the crown guards as well.


cheers for that

So the #4 series cases would not be the same as the normal 16760 cases in terms of size or design?

would the #4 series logically be the earlier 1675 etc model then ?

if so, how would a 16760 GMT2 Guts be shoehorned into it ?

sorry for the questions!

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Old 29 March 2015, 01:34 AM   #14
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cheers for that

So the #4 series cases would not be the same as the normal 16760 cases in terms of size or design?

would the #4 series logically be the earlier 1675 etc model then ?

if so, how would a 16760 GMT2 Guts be shoehorned into it ?

sorry for the questions!

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4.4mil numbers were stamped on the correct case at the time. The 1675 was a much thinner case.
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Old 29 March 2015, 05:33 AM   #15
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Old 29 March 2015, 06:41 AM   #16
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well, I have spent an hour on this fourm - there is a great deal of info to be found !

Im happy now this this has a replacement case , number ties into this link

http://sweepinghand.co.uk/useful-inf...erial-numbers/

My 16760 has the original tritium dial but obviously no luminescence

thanks everyone
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