Help to authenticate Tudor Prince Oysterdate

[wahpiahz]

Hi,

I chance upon the forum while trying to search for information of Tudor Prince Oysterdate and decided to join to try and get some expert opinion on this particular item i am eyeing.

I am particularly worried about the movement, whether it is original or has been replaced. Also, i am not too sure about the fluted bezel, as my searches around the internet did not bring up anything reliable to make comparisons to.

Below are some of the pictures of the piece, hope the experts here can help to authenticate it.

















Thanks in advance
wahpiahz

[kitsuna]

why does the watch have black stitching on the band on the first picture, and white stitching on the 2nd and 3rd? The movement picture might be from another watch. I'm not going to say its a fake because I'm no expert, but that kind of discrepancy is odd and would be enough for me to walk away.

[wahpiahz]

Originally Posted by kitsuna

why does the watch have black stitching on the band on the first picture, and white stitching on the 2nd and 3rd? The movement picture might be from another watch. I'm not going to say its a fake because I'm no expert, but that kind of discrepancy is odd and would be enough for me to walk away.

Hi kitsuna,

Thanks for your reply. I didn't notice the discrepancy between the pictures.

Overall, my doubts over this piece is the fluted bezel and the rotor on the movement. While digging through the internet, i can't find any examples of 90520 having this fluted bezel (which is being touted as 14k white gold bezel) and the tudor 2784 movement with this rotor.

My suspicions are that these were changed at a later point in the watch's life, or worst case scenario is that this is a diy watch put together with parts source from China perhaps. While the parts themselves may not be fake, it is certainly questionable.

Does anyone agree with my assessment of this piece?

Thanks
Wahpiahz

[drifter01]

The rotor strikes me a fake. It looks printed rather than engraved. Also the finish on the plates seems below Tudor quality.

[mjm800]

The first zero on the 90520 looks like a bit of a hack job.

[wahpiahz]

Thanks for your inputs, Drifter01 & mjm800.

Think i am going to let this one go. When it doesn't feel right, always best to stay away.

Thanks
Wahpiahz

[Karahana]

I would tend to believe is fake or franken. The rotor is completely wrong IMO.

[wahpiahz]

Originally Posted by Karahana

I would tend to believe is fake or franken. The rotor is completely wrong IMO.

True there are those 2 possiblities. While researching about this watch, i just can't find enough examples of the Tudor 2784 movement to confirm what i am seeing in the pictures.

Thanks for your input, Karahana.

[marble]

Rotor, movement, dial and case are right for a 90520.
The fluted bezel could be an option from Tudor or someone else changed it because it looks better ;)

[drifter01]

I haven't seen a Tudor with a printed rotor anywhere...rotor is always engraved or stamped, not printed. I have, though, seem many fakes with printed rotors.

[marble]

Then you have to look better, Tudor chrono's and some Sumariners have a printed logo on the rotor ;)

All fakes I know are stamped, not printed.

[marble]

Tudor printed rotor, eta 2776


http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=326991

http://www.classicwatch.com/graphics/mptzx0118b.jpg

http://www.poshtime.com/Tudor-Rolex-...6_3026.088.php

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http://www.classicwatch.com/graphics/rx2094m.jpg

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...00+silver+dial

[wahpiahz]

Originally Posted by marble

Then you have to look better, Tudor chrono's and some Sumariners have a printed logo on the rotor ;)

All fakes I know are stamped, not printed.

I always thought originals would be engraved rather than printed or stamped.

Sorry for a noob question, what is the difference between stamped and engraved and printed? I guess you can differentiate engraved between stamped or printed.

But how would differentiate between stamped and printed? Unless my understanding of the meaning of stamped is wrong, i am imagining they are the same process?

The picture in the below post looks like an engraved rotor
http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....8&postcount=27

Thanks
Wahpiahz