HELP!!! The date on my 1680 dial wont line up

[buke45]

I had the the dial changed on my 1973 1680 to a RED Sub Dial and the date wont line up in the window, it goes down a little more than it should.
What could be the reason?
Is it an easy fix or major problem

[kilyung]

Not much you can do except open it up and adjust the hands.

[buke45]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Not much you can do except open it up and adjust the hands.

What do you mean?

I can only see about 3/4 of the number through the window, the rest is below its like the date wheel is not aligned.

[kilyung]

The watchmaker would take off the hands, advance the date via the crown until the date wheel flipped (indicating midnight), then replace the hands to indicate midnight. Finally you turn the hands 24 hrs to make sure the date wheel flips over properly.

[buke45]

Originally Posted by kilyung

The watchmaker would take off the hands, advance the date via the crown until the date wheel flipped (indicating midnight), then replace the hands to indicate midnight. Finally you turn the hands 24 hrs to make sure the date wheel flips over properly.

So its pretty simple for a watch maker to fix?

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by buke45

I had the the dial changed on my 1973 1680 to a RED Sub Dial and the date wont line up in the window, it goes down a little more than it should.
What could be the reason?
Is it an easy fix or major problem

What did the guy who changed the dial say about it?

[buke45]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

What did the guy who changed the dial say about it?

He said the dial prongs were not positioned correctly and that created the misalignment but that makes no sense. Both the Dial and the watch are original.
That has happenned to me before after banging another sub and it was an easy fix. It had nothing to do with the Dial it was the date wheel that had slipped.

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by buke45

He said the dial prongs were not positioned correctly and that created the misalignment but that makes no sense. Both the Dial and the watch are original.
That has happenned to me before after banging another sub and it was an easy fix. It had nothing to do with the Dial it was the date wheel that had slipped.

Did he say it's fixable?

[buke45]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Did he say it's fixable?

He is going to open it back up and check the whole thing to see if he can see what's wrong

We'll see tomorrow

[tkerrmd]

Well good luck, sorry about your troubles!

[soundserious]

Originally Posted by buke45

He said the dial prongs were not positioned correctly and that created the misalignment but that makes no sense. Both the Dial and the watch are original.

There seems to be a plausible answer....show a pic of your original replacement red sub dial pls.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by buke45

He said the dial prongs were not positioned correctly and that created the misalignment but that makes no sense. Both the Dial and the watch are original.
That has happenned to me before after banging another sub and it was an easy fix. It had nothing to do with the Dial it was the date wheel that had slipped.

The only way the dial feet/prongs would not be positioned correctly was if they were broken or not seated all the way in (in which case I don't see how he could lock the dial to the movement or even put the movement back in).

Maybe he means hands and not prongs?

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by buke45

So its pretty simple for a watch maker to fix?

Very easy. Takes 10-20 minutes.

[buke45]

Originally Posted by kilyung

The only way the dial feet/prongs would not be positioned correctly was if they were broken or not seated all the way in (in which case I don't see how he could lock the dial to the movement or even put the movement back in).

Maybe he means hands and not prongs?

The prongs or whatever they are called underneath the dial

[buke45]

Here are the pics of the dial I put in
I will have pics of how it looks installed later today

Thank you for your help

[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by buke45

I had the the dial changed on my 1973 1680 to a RED Sub Dial and the date wont line up in the window, it goes down a little more than it should.
What could be the reason?
Is it an easy fix or major problem

Originally Posted by buke45

He said the dial prongs were not positioned correctly and that created the misalignment but that makes no sense. Both the Dial and the watch are original.
That has happenned to me before after banging another sub and it was an easy fix. It had nothing to do with the Dial it was the date wheel that had slipped.

These 2 statements contradict each other. if you changed the dial, it's not original. It may well be genuine Rolex, however.

Normally, date alignment is a simple fix, assuming all parts are correct with each other.

Sounds like they are not compatible, if your watchmaker said the pins/feet on the back don't align properly.

[buke45]

Originally Posted by Vincent65

These 2 statements contradict each other. if you changed the dial, it's not original. It may well be genuine Rolex, however.

Normally, date alignment is a simple fix, assuming all parts are correct with each other.

Sounds like they are not compatible, if your watchmaker said the pins/feet on the back don't align properly.

True, Sorry
They are both Genuine, not original.
The question is but why wont a genuine red sub dial fit a genuine 1680.

[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by buke45

True, Sorry
They are both Genuine, not original.
The question is but why wont a genuine red sub dial fit a genuine 1680.

I thought your watchmaker had already given his explanation. The thing is, if the date appeared OK in the window of the other dial, and now it doesn't... surely it's the dial-change that's caused it? Unless the date-change mechanism somehow got 'knocked out of whak' (to borrow a technical term from Steve Martin).

[CharlieMae]

depending on how far out of line the date is from the center of the cyclops, the fix is very simple. There is a tiny screw on the part that adjusts the date wheel. It's purpose is to "fine tune" the date to center the window. It wot move it a significant amount but if only 10-25% is needed it is designed for that purpose. I dont know why a dial swap would change anything and if the feet fit in the movement then it fits and if they dont then it wont. If it fits the date should line up