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MrClean · 8 May 2008, 01:14 PM

followed suit on creating hommage models to old editions, like omega does with the museum re-edition line

they're not exact copies, slight re-intrepetations but they sell out fairly quickly and not too cheaply, at that

it'd be interesting and wouldn't compete with existing product line, or terribly so

a re-edition of maybe 10,000 copies of a 2008 red submariner or of a DRSD
would sell like hot cakes and probably at twice the price of a standard SD????

oneillba · 8 May 2008, 01:17 PM

Yes, like Smith and Wesson has done in reintroducing it's "Classics". Us older farts do appreciate them, especially because we remember them when they were "new".

sub2004 · 8 May 2008, 01:28 PM

I think its a fair point for those of us who dont own a vintage popular piece.

But i think its also important to appreciate the other side of the balance wheel:

1. Imagine you have spent your life obtaining hard to find vintage,rare pricey pieces. You may even have paid tens or hundreds of thousands for these watches.

2, And then Rolex releases a red writing submariner, or a Paul Newmanesque dial on a daytona.

3. Even though not a direct copy/re-edition, it would terribly affect collectors and proepctive collectors (why xxxxx for a Paul Newman vintage when its only 10 grand for a very similar piece brand new)

Im not saying this as a collector of vintage pieces, but i do respect their view/position and rolex's view on this.

pwrslider · 8 May 2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sub2004

I think its a fair point for those of us who dont own a vintage popular piece.

But i think its also important to appreciate the other side of the balance wheel:

1. Imagine you have spent your life obtaining hard to find vintage,rare pricey pieces. You may even have paid tens or hundreds of thousands for these watches.

2, And then Rolex releases a red writing submariner, or a Paul Newmanesque dial on a daytona.

3. Even though not a direct copy/re-edition, it would terribly affect collectors and proepctive collectors (why xxxxx for a Paul Newman vintage when its only 10 grand for a very similar piece brand new)

Im not saying this as a collector of vintage pieces, but i do respect their view/position and rolex's view on this.

I agree!! They are vintage collectibles for a reason. If ya want to make a rare collectible...limit the production...but make it something you haven't done before.

ROLEX MAN · 8 May 2008, 01:35 PM

bring them on I say!

MrClean · 8 May 2008, 01:55 PM

versions
it was a whole new series and collectible in it's own right

here's a shot of my 1951 museum re-edition cosmic, no possible mistaking it for the original

first a shot of the re-edition of the 1951 cosmic (i've borrowed a shot from Kobe, his photographic work is way better than mine)

and a shot of the original,
absolutely no possiblity of confusion, but still the re-edition is attractive in it's own way and actually pays hommage to the original

four-thirteen · 8 May 2008, 02:06 PM

I've always hated re-issues of any popular older item. It cheapens the original and the new item will always be a copy. David

sub2004 · 8 May 2008, 02:44 PM

No disrespect to Omega, plus i absolutely love the cosmic. Museum series rock!

But the comparison is apples to oranges.

No one is dropping 200 grand on a vintage Omega Seamaster or speedmaster.

Check out the Antiquorum Revolution auction. It will bring tears to ones eyes to see the price of vintage double reds and the sorts. If you own one, wowser! You dont own one, unless you find an unsuspecting retired navy sailor who worked for comex and will sell it to you for a couple of grand (i wish)...

If Omegas were going at such prices, trust me, Omega would not release re-editions or re-issues.

Look at Paneria, are they re-editioning or re-issuing Pam 203 Angelus?

But you make a good point, personally i dont own any vintage pieces and probably would be the first guy at my AD if they did a Red Sub or panda dial daytona but i also respect that the "value" of a current rolex is also becuase of the value of a vintage piece, kind of like collateral flowon.

jamesw · 8 May 2008, 06:42 PM

Imagine the waiting list for a current DRSD or RED SUB? One might have a chance at getting a SS Daytona in that market though.

SPACE-DWELLER · 8 May 2008, 09:51 PM

In a way, the current Milgauss watches are an homage to the first Milgauss watches that also had the lightning bolt hand.

8 May 2008, 01:14 PM	#1
MrClean Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Larry Location: Virginia Watch: tudor 7928 Posts: 200	it occurred to me, why hasn't rolex followed suit on creating hommage models to old editions, like omega does with the museum re-edition line they're not exact copies, slight re-intrepetations but they sell out fairly quickly and not too cheaply, at that it'd be interesting and wouldn't compete with existing product line, or terribly so a re-edition of maybe 10,000 copies of a 2008 red submariner or of a DRSD would sell like hot cakes and probably at twice the price of a standard SD????

8 May 2008, 01:17 PM	#2
oneillba "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Hamilton, MI USA Watch: My beloved TT DJ Posts: 3,831	Yes, like Smith and Wesson has done in reintroducing it's "Classics". Us older farts do appreciate them, especially because we remember them when they were "new". __________________ My Trusty TT DJ

8 May 2008, 01:35 PM	#5
ROLEX MAN 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: Home and Away Watch: you? "YES PLEASE"! Posts: 3,718	bring them on I say! __________________ *it's not just about telling the time...* *happy rolexing...* I'm just a man with a passion

8 May 2008, 01:55 PM	#6
MrClean Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Larry Location: Virginia Watch: tudor 7928 Posts: 200	but what omega did didn't clash with the vintage versions it was a whole new series and collectible in it's own right here's a shot of my 1951 museum re-edition cosmic, no possible mistaking it for the original first a shot of the re-edition of the 1951 cosmic (i've borrowed a shot from Kobe, his photographic work is way better than mine) and a shot of the original, absolutely no possiblity of confusion, but still the re-edition is attractive in it's own way and actually pays hommage to the original

8 May 2008, 09:51 PM	#10
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	In a way, the current Milgauss watches are an homage to the first Milgauss watches that also had the lightning bolt hand. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

8 May 2008, 01:28 PM	#3
sub2004 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Pacific Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 643	I think its a fair point for those of us who dont own a vintage popular piece. But i think its also important to appreciate the other side of the balance wheel: 1. Imagine you have spent your life obtaining hard to find vintage,rare pricey pieces. You may even have paid tens or hundreds of thousands for these watches. 2, And then Rolex releases a red writing submariner, or a Paul Newmanesque dial on a daytona. 3. Even though not a direct copy/re-edition, it would terribly affect collectors and proepctive collectors (why xxxxx for a Paul Newman vintage when its only 10 grand for a very similar piece brand new) Im not saying this as a collector of vintage pieces, but i do respect their view/position and rolex's view on this.

8 May 2008, 02:06 PM	#7
four-thirteen Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Watch: SD Posts: 31	I've always hated re-issues of any popular older item. It cheapens the original and the new item will always be a copy. David

8 May 2008, 02:44 PM	#8
sub2004 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Pacific Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 643	No disrespect to Omega, plus i absolutely love the cosmic. Museum series rock! But the comparison is apples to oranges. No one is dropping 200 grand on a vintage Omega Seamaster or speedmaster. Check out the Antiquorum Revolution auction. It will bring tears to ones eyes to see the price of vintage double reds and the sorts. If you own one, wowser! You dont own one, unless you find an unsuspecting retired navy sailor who worked for comex and will sell it to you for a couple of grand (i wish)... If Omegas were going at such prices, trust me, Omega would not release re-editions or re-issues. Look at Paneria, are they re-editioning or re-issuing Pam 203 Angelus? But you make a good point, personally i dont own any vintage pieces and probably would be the first guy at my AD if they did a Red Sub or panda dial daytona but i also respect that the "value" of a current rolex is also becuase of the value of a vintage piece, kind of like collateral flowon.

8 May 2008, 06:42 PM	#9
jamesw "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 209	Imagine the waiting list for a current DRSD or RED SUB? One might have a chance at getting a SS Daytona in that market though.

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