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Old 16 August 2015, 12:59 PM   #1
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Ive been in the market for a submariner for the longest time and am now considering two that are up for grabs.

14060m V serial circa 2008. BNIB with a minor blemish on case, otherwise 100% mint.

14060m random serial circa 2012. Unserviced and showing very very light wear.

assuming the cost for both are the same, would you pick the BNIB that was manufactured earlier, or the relatively younger watch which isn't exactly mint?

which way would you lean?

thanks in advance....hoping to have either on my wrists soon!
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Old 16 August 2015, 01:45 PM   #2
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How does a watch with a minor blemish qualify as BNIB? And it's either mint or it's not, no percentage qualifications apply.

All other things being equal, the newer model, I suppose.
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Old 16 August 2015, 03:09 PM   #3
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Old 16 August 2015, 03:17 PM   #4
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Newer probably, dont understand how mint but with blemish, photos would help
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Old 16 August 2015, 07:39 PM   #5
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Old 16 August 2015, 07:42 PM   #6
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If it's truly BNIB, that's the one I'd go for.

(Mind you, I'm the type that has so far only bought my watches new from ADs!)
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Old 16 August 2015, 07:45 PM   #7
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BNIB means never worn.
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I'd get the newer model. Bnib with blemished case doesn't add up to me
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Old 16 August 2015, 08:34 PM   #9
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Old 16 August 2015, 09:03 PM   #10
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Sorry if I didnt use the correct wording.

I gather the BNIB was mishandled at some point to gain the blemish but otherwise it's never been worn(so I'm told) and with all papers and stickers in tact.
Or is it such that if its truly BNIB then there should never have been any reason to be handled at all to gain the case blemish?
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Old 16 August 2015, 09:08 PM   #11
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bnib ,,, with blemish ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, same thing , its either one or the other.
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Old 16 August 2015, 09:12 PM   #12
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Hi All,

Ive been in the market for a submariner for the longest time and am now considering two that are up for grabs.

14060m V serial circa 2008. BNIB with a minor blemish on case, otherwise 100% mint.

14060m random serial circa 2012. Unserviced and showing very very light wear.

assuming the cost for both are the same, would you pick the BNIB that was manufactured earlier, or the relatively younger watch which isn't exactly mint?

which way would you lean?

thanks in advance....hoping to have either on my wrists soon!
Again you guys fall into the internet serial syndrome trap now V serials ran from around August 2008 well into June 2010 or later.The the single letter G plus 6 numbers started around June/July 2010 followed a little later in 2010 by the random serials, mixture of letters numbers but now a total of 8 digits,and both G and Random are still running too present time.
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Old 16 August 2015, 09:13 PM   #13
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Impossible to answer

Prices? Photos?
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Would need to see a picture of the "blemish", but I'd go with the newer.
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Old 16 August 2015, 10:41 PM   #15
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You didn't give us enough info really. I would do neither. You're gonna get gouged with a BNIB so I would buy a gently used one. I got a 99% condition watch with full set, and a 2 liner at that, for 46.


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Old 16 August 2015, 11:33 PM   #16
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I don't know exactly when the lugs/ceramic changed but get the one that you can rationalize enjoying most. Some go more vintage if the could. Vs some more current.
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Old 16 August 2015, 11:37 PM   #17
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Would need to see a picture of the "blemish", but I'd go with the newer.
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Old 17 August 2015, 01:50 AM   #18
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Hi All,

Ive been in the market for a submariner for the longest time and am now considering two that are up for grabs.

14060m V serial circa 2008. BNIB with a minor blemish on case, otherwise 100% mint.

14060m random serial circa 2012. Unserviced and showing very very light wear.

assuming the cost for both are the same, would you pick the BNIB that was manufactured earlier, or the relatively younger watch which isn't exactly mint?

which way would you lean?

thanks in advance....hoping to have either on my wrists soon!
You should always buy the best example you can find for the price you want to pay.

These watches should not be priced the same.. either the early one is overpriced or the other is a great buy.
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Old 17 August 2015, 02:07 AM   #19
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Old 17 August 2015, 02:29 AM   #20
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Would need to see a picture of the "blemish", but I'd go with the newer.
what kind of blemish???

Random serial if the wear is very slight vs a blemish if the blemish is something that requires polishing to remove.
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Old 17 August 2015, 02:32 AM   #21
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Old 17 August 2015, 02:33 AM   #22
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I would go with the 2012 watch. Once you wear the 2008 and put wear and tear on it the watch will now be 4 years older than the 2012 and possibly look the same. If you ever go to sell it that would make a difference if the person buying it had the option to buy a similar watch 4 years newer
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Old 17 August 2015, 05:01 AM   #23
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Go newer. BTW, are the stickers still on the "BNIB"?
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Old 17 August 2015, 05:04 AM   #24
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Is the "BNIB" sold by an AD? If so, presumably you'd get the 5-year warranty (since it's technically a new watch)?
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Old 23 August 2015, 10:23 PM   #25
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the pic in the middle is the used random serial piece.

Thanks for all of the feedback.

The V is indeed BNIB with sticker intact and going for a couple hundred more.
The random shows a bit more wear.

While I do prefer BNIB, I was initially concerned that it would require an immediate service being that it is "older". But after doing some research I've learned that this might not be the case. Im far from being an expert on all things watches!

So now I'm torn between the two. And whatever its worth, I'm looking to wear the damn thing...not adding to a "collection".

Here are some pics. What do you think?
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Old 23 August 2015, 11:56 PM   #26
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Where's the "blemish?"
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Old 24 August 2015, 01:20 AM   #27
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I'm sorry...I can't get past the blemish on a BNIB watch.
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Old 24 August 2015, 01:23 AM   #28
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I'd get the newer one.
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Old 24 August 2015, 01:42 AM   #29
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Sorry buddy, but would need better description/picture of "blemish". I'd stay away from dents and deep scratches (but that's just me).
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