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Old 11 June 2008, 03:50 AM   #1
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Need Information on Rolex Model

I recently sold my Rolex Air King (?) It has a black face and all Rolosar gold finish. I purchased the watch in 1984 from Bucherers Jewelers in Interlaken, Switzerland, an authorized dealer for Rolex. In fact, the watch came from the Rolex factory by train the next day. The new buyer says the band is not a Rolex band. I have no way to prove otherwise, but my word and the certificate of authenticity that I sent to the buyer. Can anyone on this forum help me establish provenance or historical data for Rolosar and other pertinent information. Thank you in advance. David
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Old 11 June 2008, 04:01 AM   #2
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Welcome to TRF, David!

"Rolesor" is a Rolex term for the combination of steel and yellow gold, also popularly known as "TT" (Two-Tone).

As far as I know, the AK did not come in TT at that time.

Since the Basel Fair 2007, however, the AK is availible in "White Rolesor" (steel case and band with a white gold, fluted bezel).

Do you have a pic of the AK?
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Old 11 June 2008, 04:03 AM   #3
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Not sure what you are asking..

Rolesor is the name that Rolex has coined for the Two-tone, Gold and Stainless Steel combination.

You state the buyer says the bracelet is not Rolex in origin.. If you bought it new, then you ought to know what you got. What does he use to make that claim... photos, documents, stampings.....
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Old 11 June 2008, 05:09 AM   #4
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It's the buyer's responsibility to prove that it's fake first - he should give something official before you take any action.
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Old 11 June 2008, 05:43 AM   #5
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please post pics of your watch.. this does not sound like an Air King
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Old 11 June 2008, 05:55 AM   #6
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Thanks for the quick response. Here is a link to the photos as requested. I even found the original receipt and it say O.P. jate, 14kt gold if that helps.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24744723@N07/
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Old 11 June 2008, 07:40 AM   #7
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thats not an air king.
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Old 11 June 2008, 10:59 AM   #8
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OK, it's not an Air King. I would appreciate any historical information regarding this model watch.
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Old 11 June 2008, 11:48 AM   #9
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If you look at the warrantee that you have, it will give you the model and the movement number. It's type and date made will be determined by this information.
If you post them here, show us the full model but only the first four numbers of the movement number, like 324xxxxx.
OK?
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Old 11 June 2008, 12:39 PM   #10
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I do know it is a Rolex Oyster as I purchased the watch from an authorized dealer. I'm dealing with a person that says the watch band is not a Rolex band and have no way to prove it other than the actual certificate of provenance and the actual sales receipt from 1984. I purchased the Rolex from Bucherer in Interlaken, one of the largest watch merchants in Switzerland, so it's beyond belief someone can assert that it is not Rolex.
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Old 11 June 2008, 12:44 PM   #11
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it is not an air king.

u should just ask the buyer send u the watch back and u refund u the full payment.

u mislead him saying it is an air king.

even though it is a real deal rolex. but u told the buyer it is an air king, and the buyer should receive air king.

get the watch back and check the model, and resell it when u have enough info of the watch.
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Old 11 June 2008, 12:45 PM   #12
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unless, u sell me at air king price, and send me a ss daytona. then it is ok for me.
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Well David,

By your own account, and your own experience as the original owner, you sold a genuine Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date watch with the original bracelet..

You now have the buyer making a statement that you know not to be true... On what basis does this buyer make that claim ? And further more, if you know it to not be true (his claim) why do you care ?

Without detailed photos and the numbers that are stamped on the bracelet and the watch, we cannot make a determination one way or the other..
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Old 11 June 2008, 05:10 PM   #14
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Sorry. I did not represent my watch as an Air King to the buyer, but was my ignorance in conveying information to folks on this forum. My humble apologies. Here is the information: Rolex Model #1024, Chronometer #7663XXX. Any information will be appreciated.
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Sorry. I did not represent my watch as an Air King to the buyer, but was my ignorance in conveying information to folks on this forum. My humble apologies. Here is the information: Rolex Model #1024, Chronometer #7663XXX. Any information will be appreciated.
David, I don't think this is an issue we can help you with. If you purchased the watch from an AD, the head and bracelet are 100% real.
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Thanks for the quick response. Here is a link to the photos as requested. I even found the original receipt and it say O.P. jate, 14kt gold if that helps.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24744723@N07/
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Well David,

By your own account, and your own experience as the original owner, you sold a genuine Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date watch with the original bracelet..

You now have the buyer making a statement that you know not to be true... On what basis does this buyer make that claim ? And further more, if you know it to not be true (his claim) why do you care ?

Without detailed photos and the numbers that are stamped on the bracelet and the watch, we cannot make a determination one way or the other..
Yeah, maybe the receipt says "Date", but the watch obviously has no date function. It's a regular "Perpetual".
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Old 12 June 2008, 03:02 AM   #17
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First, thanks to all of you who offered information. I never realized the existence of such Rolex aficionados. Second, I'm not going to worry about this matter and enjoy the day. Thanks!
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