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WES · 7 April 2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Originally the spring bars were fixed (soldered) in place for the NATO strap..

JJ is correct, wearing the strap with the standard spring pins can put tremendous force on the tiny end of the pin and twist it right out of the hole..

Try this with your NATO.

Hold the watch head in one hand and with a little down pressure in the strap on top of the spring bar, wriggle it back and forth rapidly..

Almost always you will compress the spring and the pin will pop out within seconds..

Are you sure your talking about watches here?

KLM · 21 May 2008, 03:42 AM

Interesting thread. I have enjoyed Zulu straps on many of my other watches, and have never had a problem with the pins. And my 14060M is a non-SEL bracelet, but it is sooooo comfy! I think it would look great on a black 1 piece Zulu strap so I might have to try it out!

JJ Irani · 21 May 2008, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KLM

Interesting thread. I have enjoyed Zulu straps on many of my other watches, and have never had a problem with the pins. And my 14060M is a non-SEL bracelet, but it is sooooo comfy! I think it would look great on a black 1 piece Zulu strap so I might have to try it out!

You won't really have a problem as such until there is an unexpected and sudden massive tug on the watch. That's when the pins could give way due to lack of support from the absent SELs.

JJ

oneillba · 21 May 2008, 03:47 AM

Don't worry, JJ. I will never go anywhere where I may need a NATO strap. I promise.

JJ Irani · 21 May 2008, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by oneillba

Don't worry, JJ. I will never go anywhere where I may need a NATO strap. I promise.

Good man!!

Remember.....NATO straps are NEVER a NEED - they are always a WANT!!

mickeydainish · 23 May 2008, 01:39 PM

Love this thread JJ. I have always likes Nato straps.... I am actually surfin eBay for one for my Citizen Promaster.... I will bear your warning in mind. I'll trial it on my promasters and aqualands first... and see if at any time I would be comfortable putting it on my Sub. :-)

Can anybody out there suggest a good online vendor for a quality Nato/Zulu 'watch belt'?!!??! :-)

shedlock2000 · 23 May 2008, 01:55 PM

You see JJ there seems to be opinion both ways as usual. It was not long ago that you advised me on my post not to put a NATO on the GMT II. I did think that there would be considerable strain on the links, but some photos that were posted of the GMT IIc and the GMT II looked quite good. Considering. I like the idea of the tool watch on the utility strap, and i think it is a fitting strap for the usability.

I worry about the broken SEL's i hear so much about, and though i agree about the stress placed on the pins, i have not heard of anyone LOOSING their watch on a NATO, breaking or springing a pin, maybee, loosing the watch.......not yet.

I think after reading post regarding the straps on here, if i had a slighty more agressive job, or was on the wrenches a litte more, then i would defintly go NATO, but for now, il ope i dont bust a SEL!

sorry J, i am getting more keen on the NATOs by the day!!

dkpw · 23 May 2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mickeydainish

Love this thread JJ. I have always likes Nato straps.... I am actually surfin eBay for one for my Citizen Promaster.... I will bear your warning in mind. I'll trial it on my promasters and aqualands first... and see if at any time I would be comfortable putting it on my Sub. :-)

Can anybody out there suggest a good online vendor for a quality Nato/Zulu 'watch belt'?!!??! :-)

http://www.timefactors.com/nato.htm

Speak to Eddie!

Cheers Mickey!

mickeydainish · 23 May 2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dkpw

http://www.timefactors.com/nato.htm

Speak to Eddie!

Cheers Mickey!

Tx David..... because this is the closest I have got to a Nato... old velcro jobbie!!!!

dkpw · 23 May 2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mickeydainish

Tx David..... because this is the closest I have got to a Nato... old velcro jobbie!!!!

Nice Seiko Mikey,

Here's the sort of strap that Eddie can provide. He's fast (Fast Eddie)

and very reasonably priced.

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timax · 23 May 2008, 07:28 PM

What about some extra thick seiko diver pins? Cheap, good quality and have stood up to a couple of years of Surfing and sea kayaking for me. There is NO way I will enter the water without a Zulu.

mickeydainish · 23 May 2008, 11:23 PM

mike posted this pic of a milsub in the rolex room... Just what we hav bin talkin about...fixed (soldered) solid bars.....

(Not my pic)

dkpw · 24 May 2008, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timax

What about some extra thick seiko diver pins? Cheap, good quality and have stood up to a couple of years of Surfing and sea kayaking for me. There is NO way I will enter the water without a Zulu.

Nice Seiko timax - what's the model number?

timax · 24 May 2008, 08:26 AM

Thanks its a 7s26 with mkii dial and hands. Its a very comfortable watch but i wish the movement was a bit less crude.............hence my search for a rolex

haakon59 · 24 May 2008, 10:32 AM

I agree, JJ.

nsolga · 16 June 2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dkpw

Nice Seiko timax - what's the model number?

Dave - how did you get the dial switched out? I just bought an skx007 7s26 and would love to customize it.

What do you recommend?

21 May 2008, 03:47 AM	#94
oneillba "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Hamilton, MI USA Watch: My beloved TT DJ Posts: 3,831	Don't worry, JJ. I will never go anywhere where I may need a NATO strap. I promise. __________________ My Trusty TT DJ

23 May 2008, 01:55 PM	#97
shedlock2000 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: Canada Watch: 16753; Bellini Dia Posts: 1,770	You see JJ there seems to be opinion both ways as usual. It was not long ago that you advised me on my post not to put a NATO on the GMT II. I did think that there would be considerable strain on the links, but some photos that were posted of the GMT IIc and the GMT II looked quite good. Considering. I like the idea of the tool watch on the utility strap, and i think it is a fitting strap for the usability. I worry about the broken SEL's i hear so much about, and though i agree about the stress placed on the pins, i have not heard of anyone LOOSING their watch on a NATO, breaking or springing a pin, maybee, loosing the watch.......not yet. I think after reading post regarding the straps on here, if i had a slighty more agressive job, or was on the wrenches a litte more, then i would defintly go NATO, but for now, il ope i dont bust a SEL! sorry J, i am getting more keen on the NATOs by the day!! __________________ The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. SS Submariner no date 1992 (sold); SS GMT II 2007 (sold); SS GMT II C 2008 ('M' series) (sold); SS Sub C 2011 (sold); BB GMT 1971 (sold); Omega 50th GMT

23 May 2008, 11:23 PM	#102
mickeydainish Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Michael Location: LaLa Land Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 1,757	mike posted this pic of a milsub in the rolex room... Just what we hav bin talkin about...fixed (soldered) solid bars..... (Not my pic) Attached Images

21 May 2008, 03:42 AM	#92
KLM Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas Watch: 14060M Posts: 172	Interesting thread. I have enjoyed Zulu straps on many of my other watches, and have never had a problem with the pins. And my 14060M is a non-SEL bracelet, but it is sooooo comfy! I think it would look great on a black 1 piece Zulu strap so I might have to try it out!

23 May 2008, 01:39 PM	#96
mickeydainish Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Michael Location: LaLa Land Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 1,757	Love this thread JJ. I have always likes Nato straps.... I am actually surfin eBay for one for my Citizen Promaster.... I will bear your warning in mind. I'll trial it on my promasters and aqualands first... and see if at any time I would be comfortable putting it on my Sub. :-) Can anybody out there suggest a good online vendor for a quality Nato/Zulu 'watch belt'?!!??! :-)

23 May 2008, 07:28 PM	#101
timax Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 18	What about some extra thick seiko diver pins? Cheap, good quality and have stood up to a couple of years of Surfing and sea kayaking for me. There is NO way I will enter the water without a Zulu.

24 May 2008, 08:26 AM	#104
timax Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 18	Thanks its a 7s26 with mkii dial and hands. Its a very comfortable watch but i wish the movement was a bit less crude.............hence my search for a rolex

24 May 2008, 10:32 AM	#105
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	I agree, JJ.

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