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Old 5 February 2016, 03:32 PM   #1
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Will this hurt my watch?

I have a 14000 Air King that runs +8 sec / day. I find myself pulling the crown when I wake up and then starting it again 8 seconds later.

Is this bad for the movement in anyway?

I am dealing with the financial markets all day at work and keeping accurate time is extremely important to me.
Used to wear a quartz watch for this reason but I fell in love with automatic movement. Can't go back now!
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Old 5 February 2016, 03:43 PM   #2
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No, but screwing and unscrewing the crown daily will invite the risk of cross-threading. 8 seconds a day for a non COSC movement isn't awful at all. The cal 3000 movement can be regulated to COSC spec so why not get it serviced?
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Old 5 February 2016, 03:45 PM   #3
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It is not bad for your movement, it is bad for your stem and threads on your stem and crown.

If 8 seconds a day is an issue for you, you need to buy a quartz watch.

A watch that is consistently 8 seconds per day fast is very reliable and consistent. No mechanical watch is going to be entirely accurate to the split second day after day. Rolex tolerence is -4 to +6 seconds per day for an Air King. That represents a daily accuracy of 99.999%. If you need more accurate buy something electronic.

Alternatively, you may find you can regulate the watch by placing it crown up or crown down, or in a different position overnight, so that the few seconds it gains during the day can be countered overnight by leaving it in a different position that will slow down the movement a few seconds. Many do this to make a watch a true +/- zero seconds per day.

Or as suggested get it serviced/adjusted by a watchmaker.
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Old 5 February 2016, 04:02 PM   #4
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No, but screwing and unscrewing the crown daily will invite the risk of cross-threading. 8 seconds a day for a non COSC movement isn't awful at all. The cal 3000 movement can be regulated to COSC spec so why not get it serviced?
I actually didn't know that about the cal 3000 movement!
I'll have to do some research and think about getting it regulated.
What year is your AirKing? Mine is a 1991 blue dial.
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Old 5 February 2016, 04:04 PM   #5
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It is not bad for your movement, it is bad for your stem and threads on your stem and crown.

If 8 seconds a day is an issue for you, you need to buy a quartz watch.

A watch that is consistently 8 seconds per day fast is very reliable and consistent. No mechanical watch is going to be entirely accurate to the split second day after day. Rolex tolerence is -4 to +6 seconds per day for an Air King. That represents a daily accuracy of 99.999%. If you need more accurate buy something electronic.

Alternatively, you may find you can regulate the watch by placing it crown up or crown down, or in a different position overnight, so that the few seconds it gains during the day can be countered overnight by leaving it in a different position that will slow down the movement a few seconds. Many do this to make a watch a true +/- zero seconds per day.

Or as suggested get it serviced/adjusted by a watchmaker.
I didn't think about the stem and threads because the process of pulling the crown is seamless. I understand its moving parts on the watch which is added stress, but is it really frowned upon?
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Old 5 February 2016, 04:20 PM   #6
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I actually didn't know that about the cal 3000 movement!
I'll have to do some research and think about getting it regulated.
What year is your AirKing? Mine is a 1991 blue dial.
Mine is a 1985 5500 cal 1520 movement. At 8 seconds a day, you're right where you should be, but you're going to spend good money to find those 2 seconds. Only 2 seconds out of COSC on a non COSC movement, some folks would love to have accuracy like that
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Old 5 February 2016, 04:40 PM   #7
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That does put things into perspective for me, and never mind those 2 seconds ;-)
Thanks guys!
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Old 5 February 2016, 10:22 PM   #8
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8 seconds....so less than 1 minute per week. I cant imagine you are doing transactions in fractions of a minute, and if you are Im sure you watch the countdown for the closing bells.
Just reset once per week, no need to do it daily.
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Old 5 February 2016, 10:25 PM   #9
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Try regulating it yourself first .

My 5513 with 1520 movement runs consistently at + 3 seconds a daY.
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Old 5 February 2016, 11:39 PM   #10
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I would leave it but if it bothers you then self-regulate or have it regulated.
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Old 6 February 2016, 12:26 AM   #11
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I would leave it but if it bothers you then self-regulate or have it regulated.
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Old 6 February 2016, 12:29 AM   #12
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No, but screwing and unscrewing the crown daily will invite the risk of cross-threading.

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Old 6 February 2016, 08:36 AM   #13
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Indeed all valid points ! Many thanks :-)
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Old 6 February 2016, 04:08 PM   #14
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Your watch runs 8 seconds fast per day? Set it on the first of each month.
The farther into the month you get, the more on time you'll be. Ta-DAH!

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Old 6 February 2016, 05:11 PM   #15
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Try regulating it yourself first .

My 5513 with 1520 movement runs consistently at + 3 seconds a daY.
Thanks for that!
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Old 6 February 2016, 05:51 PM   #16
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Will this hurt my watch?

Pretty good IMHO I would which regulating it everyday by hand


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Old 7 February 2016, 02:44 AM   #17
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The watch is out of COSC.

Have it regulated, but I agree with others. If your watch has to be correct to the second for your work, you'd be better served wearing a quartz watch, which is not as demeaning as some would suggest.

Alternatively, you could use http://time.is/ on your phone for work.
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Old 7 February 2016, 02:48 AM   #18
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U need a Casio. Lol
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Old 7 February 2016, 04:07 AM   #19
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Just re-set it once a week, is a few seconds going to make you late for an appt
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Old 7 February 2016, 05:22 AM   #20
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I honestly don't know WHY everyone makes a fuss about unscrewing/screwing in the crown, setting every day, etc. Geez - I've been diving since I was SEVEN years old (I'll be 60 in 19 days), and have owned dive watches since then. I still HAVE my very first dive watch - I'll bet that crown has been unscrewed/screwed in 10K+ times! It's been serviced TWICE since 1964...

I've owned a dozen Rolex Subs, including two 6538 Big Crowns, a 5508, a 5512, and a 5513 that I bought new in 1978 and sold to a friend of mine 3 years ago - original tube, crown, and tube gasket - I bet that crown's been unscrewed/screwed in over a thousand times - been on at least a hundred dives with NO water intrusion...

Sorry for the rant - it's a well-built TOOL watch - USE the damned thing! Now pardon me while I unscrew the crown on my '07 14060 COSC ND and "regulate it" to be spot on today, then I'll worry about something ELSE!
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Old 8 February 2016, 12:37 AM   #21
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