Is this 16800 genuine / with correct parts?

[nystrand]

Hi all,

I'm looking this 16800 with some concerns and I'm going to take it to AD next week, but wanted your help first and to save me the trip and cost:

1. Serial number i 6,6 mil and with engraved "Registered design", which doesn't correspond to these observations:
http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/w...n-vs-orig.html
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=142482

2. Seller claims that bracelet and endlnks are original, however the end links are stamped 593 but has no "flaps"?

3. 93150 bracelet looks to be in too good condition, but could have been polished. The clasp code dates to around 1980 which sounds correct, but the clasp could have been put on a newer 93150 bracelet?

4. The clasp locking mechanism is off, its completely bend, is that normal, perhaps the watchmaker has been to rough with it? Also the pin in the clasp lock looks different from other photos i have seen online?

5. On the certificate, where the stamp from the AD is, it looks like a sticker has been taken off, there is glue lefteovers right where the purchase date is written.

Any other comments??

I would very much appreciate your input and help!

[alwayshere]

The watch itself looks good except for the endlinks and maybe the bracelet.

The 593 endlinks should have the flaps and the printing should be smaller. My guess is the endlink is aftermarket.

The bracelet is questionable though - the printing on the clasp showing 93150 looks odd to me and agree the condition is too new for its age. Wait for others to chime in.

[TimeToGo]

Welcome to the Forum.

Looks like you have a nice watch with papers. the partial serial (6.6) places it around 1981/82, the bracelet coded VE about a 1980.

The clasp looks fine and so do the 593s (no ears).. Hard to comment on whether the clasp was placed on newer sections since you do not picture them...

[alwayshere]

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Welcome to the Forum.

Looks like you have a nice watch with papers. the partial serial (6.6) places it around 1981/82, the bracelet coded VE about a 1980.

The clasp looks fine and so do the 593s (no ears).. Hard to comment on whether the clasp was placed on newer sections since you do not picture them...

Really? I stand corrected then.

I have never seen 593 without the ears. Mine all had them

[Comacho]

Im not really sure about those end links. My "593" end links all have the little ears. Nice looking piece though.

[Chewbacca]

imop, the date wheel looks like it was swapped for a service one.

could be wrong however...

rest looks ok.

[nystrand]

Hi all,

Thanks for all input, its MUCH appreciated. I wanted to post my additional photos, but had to wait to get the post approved by admins :)

[nystrand]

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Welcome to the Forum.

Looks like you have a nice watch with papers. the partial serial (6.6) places it around 1981/82, the bracelet coded VE about a 1980.

The clasp looks fine and so do the 593s (no ears).. Hard to comment on whether the clasp was placed on newer sections since you do not picture them...

So you think the bracelet could be original even though the serial dates 81/82?

Have you ever seen "no ears" before, I'm concerned about this? The link also looks bend, so I'm thinking aftermarket...

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

imop, the date wheel looks like it was swapped for a service one.

The date wheel has silver finish, which should be correct, what makes you think it's service?

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by nystrand

So you think the bracelet could be original even though the serial dates 81/82?

Have you ever seen "no ears" before, I'm concerned about this? The link also looks bend, so I'm thinking aftermarket...



The date wheel has silver finish, which should be correct, what makes you think it's service?

just the font going by others of that era. but i could be wrong.

[nystrand]

Hello again,

I was told on another forum that crystal and bracelet is fake - any comments from you guys?

[Alford78]

I saw your thread on omega forum. I didn't want to comment but after seeing it here too might as well. Just buy the seller. A watch that old that has some replacement parts isn't uncommon. The papers matching the watch is also a plus for the age.