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basicksickness · 18 May 2016, 08:03 AM

Looking at a presi, how can I tell the difference between an original vs aftermarket band if there is an authentic clasp on it? It's an early 80s 18038. Guy also said the bezel was replaced with authentic parts, but I can't tell the difference.

I did a bunch of research on it, and I can't seem to find much except that a fake band will kink, but I don't know what the means.

Thanks in advance.

basicksickness · 18 May 2016, 08:07 AM

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THC · 18 May 2016, 08:14 AM

A better question is how well do you know the seller? If a stranger, walk away and keep shopping... You have one shot at this

basicksickness · 18 May 2016, 08:18 AM

Lol I don't. It's a CL transaction, and the guy has agreed to meet at an AD for verification, I trust myself and the staff on the head, as I have owned one before, but the band is my question.

Javier2.0t · 18 May 2016, 08:24 AM

Be careful with CL. So many scams are going on there. For something as big as a DD I would buy from trusted Seller or AD. Good luck with whatever you choose though

basicksickness · 18 May 2016, 08:24 PM

Bump

Lord · 18 May 2016, 08:29 PM

I'd go on 'feel'; you should be able to detect the silky smooth movement and edge finishing of the real deal against any non-OEM. Also look into the hard-to-reach areas with a loupe to see if the fine finish stops or degrades.

For additional piece of mind, if you're at an AD can you compare against a new one but give yourself a margin for aging?

Muzz · 18 May 2016, 08:45 PM

Most aftermarket bracelets will test out at 14k, that is usually a very easy way around that. But if I was even questioning it I would walk away or run away.

Andad · 18 May 2016, 08:47 PM

Pass.

kilyung · 18 May 2016, 08:51 PM

If you have any doubts, walk away.

Jim Smyth · 18 May 2016, 09:47 PM

I owned a 18238. I did months of research on the watch. The information is out there. Keep searching and reading. There's a wealth of information on this forum. Just takes time to read and educate yourself. I would say also if its a full set with original box and paperwork that hedges your bet that everything is real for sure.

MonBK · 18 May 2016, 10:46 PM

That's a terrible picture you posted.

Show pics of inside bracelet and link screws.

anothernewphone · 18 May 2016, 10:54 PM

You should never rely on an AD to verify a watch for you. I've only met one or two salespeople that know any respectable amount about their current offerings, let alone a 30-year-old watch off the street. You can't rely on a salesperson to tell you about a craigslist watch.

My local "Rolex specialist" told me "the green Sub is only good for St. Patrick's Day."

egzbuen · 18 May 2016, 10:58 PM

There are heaps of trusted sellers here. Heck, got my DD from one of em here.

Remember, when it doubt, scout!

Sent from hell

18 May 2016, 08:03 AM	#1
basicksickness "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 156	Aftermarket president bracelet help Looking at a presi, how can I tell the difference between an original vs aftermarket band if there is an authentic clasp on it? It's an early 80s 18038. Guy also said the bezel was replaced with authentic parts, but I can't tell the difference. I did a bunch of research on it, and I can't seem to find much except that a fake band will kink, but I don't know what the means. Thanks in advance.

18 May 2016, 08:07 AM	#2
basicksickness "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 156	Pic Attached Images

18 May 2016, 08:29 PM	#7
Lord "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Ben Location: Bath, UK Watch: the watch watchers Posts: 158	I'd go on 'feel'; you should be able to detect the silky smooth movement and edge finishing of the real deal against any non-OEM. Also look into the hard-to-reach areas with a loupe to see if the fine finish stops or degrades. For additional piece of mind, if you're at an AD can you compare against a new one but give yourself a margin for aging? __________________ Submariner 116610LN, Constellation 168.004, Seamaster f300 'cone', Omega 30T2, Omega bumper 342, Precista PRS-5, Precista PRS-18Q, Lemania 239A, Casio GW-5000, CWC W10, + more

18 May 2016, 08:47 PM	#9
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,527	Pass. __________________ E

18 May 2016, 10:58 PM	#14
egzbuen "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manila Posts: 1,177	There are heaps of trusted sellers here. Heck, got my DD from one of em here. Remember, when it doubt, scout! Sent from hell __________________ 18083 & 16750 16234 & 16233 16610 & 16800 3717-01 & 104 & 312 Nav B-Uhr

18 May 2016, 08:14 AM	#3
THC 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 126333 Posts: 10,664	A better question is how well do you know the seller? If a stranger, walk away and keep shopping... You have one shot at this

18 May 2016, 08:18 AM	#4
basicksickness "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 156	Lol I don't. It's a CL transaction, and the guy has agreed to meet at an AD for verification, I trust myself and the staff on the head, as I have owned one before, but the band is my question.

18 May 2016, 08:24 AM	#5
Javier2.0t "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 114060 Posts: 223	Be careful with CL. So many scams are going on there. For something as big as a DD I would buy from trusted Seller or AD. Good luck with whatever you choose though

18 May 2016, 08:24 PM	#6
basicksickness "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 156	Bump

18 May 2016, 08:45 PM	#8
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	Most aftermarket bracelets will test out at 14k, that is usually a very easy way around that. But if I was even questioning it I would walk away or run away.

18 May 2016, 08:51 PM	#10
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	If you have any doubts, walk away.

18 May 2016, 09:47 PM	#11
Jim Smyth Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Jim Smyth Location: Florida Watch: DD Posts: 1,842	I owned a 18238. I did months of research on the watch. The information is out there. Keep searching and reading. There's a wealth of information on this forum. Just takes time to read and educate yourself. I would say also if its a full set with original box and paperwork that hedges your bet that everything is real for sure.

18 May 2016, 10:46 PM	#12
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	That's a terrible picture you posted. Show pics of inside bracelet and link screws.

18 May 2016, 10:54 PM	#13
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	You should never rely on an AD to verify a watch for you. I've only met one or two salespeople that know any respectable amount about their current offerings, let alone a 30-year-old watch off the street. You can't rely on a salesperson to tell you about a craigslist watch. My local "Rolex specialist" told me "the green Sub is only good for St. Patrick's Day."

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