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mliebs · 29 May 2016, 09:07 PM

I purchased my Submariner new in 2009 (V serial number) and have been very happy with it. Yesterday my wife and I were passing by a Rolex store and I shouldn't have went inside but I did. Now I want a two tone blue faced Submariner. I was talking with the salesman and he said my watch looked new and I could probably get what I paid for it if I sold it. Now my wheels are turning except the new watch retails for $13,400 and that's out of my price range. I stumbled across this site and am considering buying a used one (preferably no more than a year or two old) but I normally don't buy anything used yet alone a Rolex. With that said, what are the average savings of purchasing a watch like this used vs new? I'm also considering the Submariner with the green face and dial but they didn't have any at the store.

mjclark32 · 29 May 2016, 09:19 PM

From what I've seen/remember the 116613's on the used market are around $9,500 (asking price). So in this case about $4,000 of savings.

enjoythemusic · 29 May 2016, 09:25 PM

Submariner with green face 116610LV, also called the Hulk, goes new for $8325 brand new from reliable TRF dealers.

AK797 · 29 May 2016, 09:58 PM

You can get at least 20% off new and unworn Blue Sub TTs from trusted sellers here like Davidsw. Do some research, do not ever pay close to retail for a two tone.

brookish · 29 May 2016, 09:58 PM

Hey, I should be getting mine tomorrow too. If you buy it from a trusted seller, it could still even be BNIB at around 25% off RRP...

Rocket_Man · 29 May 2016, 10:07 PM

WatchRecon is a good place to find used watches. It consolidates several used watch sources. Just remember to 'buy the seller' before you buy the watch. There are many good trusted sellers, but there will always be someone out there trying to scam someone. There is a sub forum here to help you determine who is a trusted seller with good feedback.

1William · 29 May 2016, 10:03 PM

Welcome. Do a search on Trusted Sellers here and then go to the FS section and see what is available and within your price range. On a trade you should be 2500-3500 off on your SS for TT. I would consider doing some research and seeing if another model appeals to you. I am not a big fan of TT but have owned several over the years. The blue sub in TT is stunning but if it is to be an only watch I might consider black.

mliebs · 29 May 2016, 10:18 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. The funny thing is that I was totally happy with mine until I walked in the store yesterday. I'm usually not much of a gold person myself but something about the two tone with the blue really looked nice. I am a little worried that it might be to (look at me) compared to my plain Submariner. They had a really nice blue and silver one there but it was white gold which was crazy expensive. I just noticed one of the reputable sellers on here is from Houston, this could make it easy.

fskywalker · 29 May 2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mliebs

Thanks for the input everyone. The funny thing is that I was totally happy with mine until I walked in the store yesterday. I'm usually not much of a gold person myself but something about the two tone with the blue really looked nice. I am a little worried that it might be to (look at me) compared to my plain Submariner. They had a really nice blue and silver one there but it was white gold which was crazy expensive. I just noticed one of the reputable sellers on here is from Houston, this could make it easy.

Perhaps a white gold Sub (they call it Smurf) would be a better choice to avoid the bling, but that one is even more expensive than the TT you were looking at. I suggest you take your time and think about it hard before flipping; perhaps saving for a second Rolex is a better choice versus flipping your like new Sub.

padi56 · 1 June 2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fskywalker

Perhaps a white gold Sub (they call it Smurf) would be a better choice to avoid the bling, but that one is even more expensive than the TT you were looking at. I suggest you take your time and think about it hard before flipping; perhaps saving for a second Rolex is a better choice versus flipping your like new Sub.

No they only call it a smurf by some on Internet forums.

watchwatcher · 30 May 2016, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mliebs

The funny thing is that I was totally happy with mine until I walked in the store yesterday.

Funny how that works...lesson learned, never go in a store, and most importantly, do not hang around here.

masyv6 · 30 May 2016, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Funny how that works...lesson learned, never go in a store, and most importantly, do not hang around here.

x2. Never before have I wanted to spend so much on watches.

FreddyNJ · 2 June 2016, 07:28 AM

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x2. Never before have I wanted to spend so much on watches.

LOL

japenney · 2 June 2016, 08:02 AM

Depends on your relationship with your AD. If you have a good one you may not save a whole lot preowned, especially the case in Canada right now.

AdaWit711 · 1 June 2016, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Funny how that works...lesson learned, never go in a store, and most importantly, do not hang around here.

Oh yes this place isn't great on the back account

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evlkoala · 2 June 2016, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Funny how that works...lesson learned, never go in a store, and most importantly, do not hang around here.

LOL stay away from TRF

AK797 · 2 June 2016, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Funny how that works...lesson learned, never go in a store, and most importantly, do not hang around here.

ADs are like a bed and breakfast in California but this place is the Hotel.

m j b · 1 June 2016, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mliebs

I'm also considering the Submariner with the green face and dial but they didn't have any at the store.

Both are great choices (I have both).

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Originally Posted by mjclark32

From what I've seen/remember the 116613's on the used market are around $9,500 (asking price). So in this case about $4,000 of savings.

Don't forget sales tax!!!! Buying used saves on that.

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Originally Posted by mliebs

Thanks for the input everyone. The funny thing is that I was totally happy with mine until I walked in the store yesterday.

Keep the sub. I have the 116613 as well (and love it) but today I'm wearing my "plain" sub.

michael067 · 1 June 2016, 03:43 AM

I have bought 4 "pre owned" as they like to call them. Usually save about 20-30%

WJGESQ · 1 June 2016, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by michael067

I have bought 4 "pre owned" as they like to call them. Usually save about 20-30%

And 20-30% is a lot of money.

michael067 · 3 June 2016, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WJGESQ

And 20-30% is a lot of money.

If you take your time, do your research and can find a good rebuttable seller you would be surprised as to what you can find at fairly reasonable prices (for Rolex anyways) just my experience.

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Speed · 1 June 2016, 04:00 AM

No "average" per se...given the various degrees of condition / box / papers / seller reputation, it's really all over the map.

Start pricing models in the classified section here to get ideas.

Lightforce1911 · 1 June 2016, 07:11 AM

as long as its a good reputable place i would buy used too. Save money

egzbuen · 1 June 2016, 11:24 PM

No issues here buying pre-owned as long as you do your research and always buy the seller first before the watch itself.

Heck, I'm from Asia, yet, I've purchased several watches already from the trusted sellers here who are most, if not all, from CONUS.

Sent from hell

ronin_ph · 10 June 2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by egzbuen

No issues here buying pre-owned as long as you do your research and always buy the seller first before the watch itself.

Heck, I'm from Asia, yet, I've purchased several watches already from the trusted sellers here who are most, if not all, from CONUS.

Sent from hell

How do you take delivery?

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egzbuen · 10 June 2016, 08:24 PM

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How do you take delivery?

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99% of the time, it's delivered to a friend or relative located at CONUS and then it's hand carried to me in Asia.

There was only one instance where it was Fedex'ed. That was a gamble but was lucky it went through without any hitches. But, I had to meet the package at once at FedEx's main facility in our territory. Didn't wait for it to be delivered.

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roadkillrob · 1 June 2016, 11:25 PM

Used is the only way to go - new from AD you take a bath and loose 20-30%, the rest of us buy used and generally don't loose much if any money if you decide to let it go later.

joli160 · 3 June 2016, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by roadkillrob

Used is the only way to go - new from AD you take a bath and loose 20-30%, the rest of us buy used and generally don't loose much if any money if you decide to let it go later.

Don't know about that, looks like a lot of members buy new. Personally I much prefer new even if it cost me some.

Boaters · 2 June 2016, 06:45 AM

Trusted sellers is the way to go IMPO

Randomwalk101 · 2 June 2016, 08:20 AM

My cousin passed away and his wife is trying to sell his Rolex Hulk. I think it's about a year old and hardly ever worn. Im sure she can meet at the Rolex AD to authenticate etc. he bought it new from the AD so have all paper works/receipts etc. write me if you're interested.

29 May 2016, 09:07 PM	#1
mliebs "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston TX Posts: 3	Buying used I purchased my Submariner new in 2009 (V serial number) and have been very happy with it. Yesterday my wife and I were passing by a Rolex store and I shouldn't have went inside but I did. Now I want a two tone blue faced Submariner. I was talking with the salesman and he said my watch looked new and I could probably get what I paid for it if I sold it. Now my wheels are turning except the new watch retails for $13,400 and that's out of my price range. I stumbled across this site and am considering buying a used one (preferably no more than a year or two old) but I normally don't buy anything used yet alone a Rolex. With that said, what are the average savings of purchasing a watch like this used vs new? I'm also considering the Submariner with the green face and dial but they didn't have any at the store.

29 May 2016, 09:19 PM	#2
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	From what I've seen/remember the 116613's on the used market are around $9,500 (asking price). So in this case about $4,000 of savings. __________________

29 May 2016, 09:25 PM	#3
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,176	Submariner with green face 116610LV, also called the Hulk, goes new for $8325 brand new from reliable TRF dealers. __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

29 May 2016, 09:58 PM	#5
brookish "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Europe Watch: Rolex Deep Blue Posts: 316	Hey, I should be getting mine tomorrow too. If you buy it from a trusted seller, it could still even be BNIB at around 25% off RRP... __________________ __________________ Current collection: Rolex Sea-Dweller, Rolex Deepsea D-blue, Rolex 116613LB, Rolex Explorer II (black), Omega Speedmaster SS, IWC Ingenieur Chrono, Panerai PAM127, Panerai PAM328, Panerai PAM629, Panerai PAM217, Panerai PAM339, Panerai PAM341, Panerai PAM605, Panerai PAM376

1 June 2016, 11:24 PM	#24
egzbuen "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manila Posts: 1,177	No issues here buying pre-owned as long as you do your research and always buy the seller first before the watch itself. Heck, I'm from Asia, yet, I've purchased several watches already from the trusted sellers here who are most, if not all, from CONUS. Sent from hell __________________ 18083 & 16750 16234 & 16233 16610 & 16800 3717-01 & 104 & 312 Nav B-Uhr

29 May 2016, 09:58 PM	#4
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	You can get at least 20% off new and unworn Blue Sub TTs from trusted sellers here like Davidsw. Do some research, do not ever pay close to retail for a two tone.

29 May 2016, 10:07 PM	#6
Rocket_Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,332	WatchRecon is a good place to find used watches. It consolidates several used watch sources. Just remember to 'buy the seller' before you buy the watch. There are many good trusted sellers, but there will always be someone out there trying to scam someone. There is a sub forum here to help you determine who is a trusted seller with good feedback.

29 May 2016, 10:03 PM	#7
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,776	Welcome. Do a search on Trusted Sellers here and then go to the FS section and see what is available and within your price range. On a trade you should be 2500-3500 off on your SS for TT. I would consider doing some research and seeing if another model appeals to you. I am not a big fan of TT but have owned several over the years. The blue sub in TT is stunning but if it is to be an only watch I might consider black.

29 May 2016, 10:18 PM	#8
mliebs "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston TX Posts: 3	Thanks for the input everyone. The funny thing is that I was totally happy with mine until I walked in the store yesterday. I'm usually not much of a gold person myself but something about the two tone with the blue really looked nice. I am a little worried that it might be to (look at me) compared to my plain Submariner. They had a really nice blue and silver one there but it was white gold which was crazy expensive. I just noticed one of the reputable sellers on here is from Houston, this could make it easy.

2 June 2016, 08:02 AM	#14
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	Depends on your relationship with your AD. If you have a good one you may not save a whole lot preowned, especially the case in Canada right now.

1 June 2016, 03:43 AM	#19
michael067 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mike Location: Las Vegas Watch: TT DJ 16233 Posts: 1,002	I have bought 4 "pre owned" as they like to call them. Usually save about 20-30%

1 June 2016, 04:00 AM	#22
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	No "average" per se...given the various degrees of condition / box / papers / seller reputation, it's really all over the map. Start pricing models in the classified section here to get ideas.

1 June 2016, 07:11 AM	#23
Lightforce1911 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: evanston Posts: 260	as long as its a good reputable place i would buy used too. Save money

1 June 2016, 11:25 PM	#27
roadkillrob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston Watch: 16610 Sub,ZblueMIL Posts: 167	Used is the only way to go - new from AD you take a bath and loose 20-30%, the rest of us buy used and generally don't loose much if any money if you decide to let it go later.

2 June 2016, 06:45 AM	#29
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,653	Trusted sellers is the way to go IMPO

2 June 2016, 08:20 AM	#30
Randomwalk101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 4	My cousin passed away and his wife is trying to sell his Rolex Hulk. I think it's about a year old and hardly ever worn. Im sure she can meet at the Rolex AD to authenticate etc. he bought it new from the AD so have all paper works/receipts etc. write me if you're interested.

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