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Azpathfinder · 7 July 2016, 03:17 PM

So I thought I wanted an Air King 14010.

It turns out the 34mm is just a bit too small for me.

I looked at the Oyster Perpetual, both 36mm and 39mm, but I really want the black dial, and I'm not really fond of the silver or grey.

Does anyone have any recommendations on what model I should look for that may match my dream watch?

These are the things that are important to me, after trying on a few watches at the local AD:

36mm
Black Dial
No date - or, if there is a date, no cyclops. I'm just not a fan of the bubble.
Sticks, no Arabic numerals (the Explorer is close, but I'd prefer lines for every hour, instead of the 3/6/9)
Simple hands, I'd prefer not to have the Mercedes-type symbol on the end
I'm not a fan of the colored dots on the markers, like the blue or green, I like the classic look, just black and silver.
I really don't have a preference on the band, except that it's metal. Same with bezel, no preference.

I know, it sounds very picky and maybe it turns out Rolex isn't the brand for me, but the Air King was perfect except for the size.

Just wondering if maybe there was something else out there that I haven't seen yet, that matches the above? or maybe an older model?

Thanks everyone!

Etschell · 7 July 2016, 03:29 PM

Explorer 1

japenney · 7 July 2016, 06:06 PM

You are describing the 36mm oyster perpetual 116000. This is the current model. I do not believe it comes in black but I could be wrong.

Rags · 7 July 2016, 07:03 PM

You are describing a Explorer 1. The OP does fit your wish list but does not come with a black dial.

Rocket_Man · 7 July 2016, 07:29 PM

Exp I. Wait for the new Basel 2016 version, out soon. Classic and fits the bill.

dddl · 7 July 2016, 07:51 PM

Explorer 1

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=483352

Stefanlorentzon · 7 July 2016, 08:11 PM

What about Tudor Black bay 36? Well its not stick dials, but dots and sticks, no mercedes hands but snow flake so not entirely "clean". But otherwise ig sounds like the one!

Cru Jones · 7 July 2016, 08:17 PM

does it have to be a rolex? a Nomos Orion could pretty much cover all your requirements, including size, dial color, sticks, no date, simple hands and no extra colors on the dial?

http://www.nomos-store.com/en/Watche...stal-back.html

fskywalker · 7 July 2016, 08:22 PM

Explorer 1

Azpathfinder · 7 July 2016, 10:12 PM

Thank you all for the suggestions!

The Explorer I seems to be the closest, except for the numbers (3 6 9) and the insignia on the hand. I guess j just have to decide how important having the perfect-watch-for-me is vs. what is out there. The Nomos is nice too, might have to expand my search outside of Rolex. Thank you all for the help, and if anyone else remembers any other options please let me know!

77T · 7 July 2016, 10:39 PM

A basic black dialed 36mm DJ - cleave off the cyclops might be a direction to consider.

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HogwldFLTR · 7 July 2016, 10:44 PM

Consider the 36mm in steel dial with sticks (shown above).

Welcome to the forum.

ragingcao · 7 July 2016, 11:09 PM

Rolex Cellini perhaps? They do have black dials and date without the cyclops. It's a dress watch tho

Stefanlorentzon · 8 July 2016, 12:26 AM

Forgot Picture, but BB36, an almost Rolex =)

WaxedElvis · 8 July 2016, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

A basic black dialed 36mm DJ - cleave off the cyclops might be a direction to consider.

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X2 - thinking the same thing........

watchwatcher · 8 July 2016, 05:31 AM

Here's something to consider: the perfect watch is a difficult goal to attain. You could spend the rest of your life trying to find it...or, get the thing with the most realistic match to your criteria.

So it sounds to me like the EXP is your best bet. Good luck,

judson · 8 July 2016, 09:44 AM

BB36 is pretty close.

cop414 · 8 July 2016, 10:54 AM

I'd say either the Explorer or the new Tudor BB as stated above should fill the bill. Enjoy the hunt!

Azpathfinder · 8 July 2016, 12:02 PM

Wow, thank you everyone for the input so far, I really appreciate it!

The 116200 Datejust I with the black dial seems to be the closest to what I'm looking for, and I've been googling a bit about what a couple of you mentioned. I saw that a few people have chisled off the Cyclops, which in no way do I have the calm hands to do.

Would an AD do it? Or is that considered a huge no no?

This is the one I've decided on -
https://www.rolex.com/watches/dateju...6200-0059.html

7 July 2016, 03:17 PM	#1
Azpathfinder "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 32	Any recommendation for a noob? So I thought I wanted an Air King 14010. It turns out the 34mm is just a bit too small for me. I looked at the Oyster Perpetual, both 36mm and 39mm, but I really want the black dial, and I'm not really fond of the silver or grey. Does anyone have any recommendations on what model I should look for that may match my dream watch? These are the things that are important to me, after trying on a few watches at the local AD: 36mm Black Dial No date - or, if there is a date, no cyclops. I'm just not a fan of the bubble. Sticks, no Arabic numerals (the Explorer is close, but I'd prefer lines for every hour, instead of the 3/6/9) Simple hands, I'd prefer not to have the Mercedes-type symbol on the end I'm not a fan of the colored dots on the markers, like the blue or green, I like the classic look, just black and silver. I really don't have a preference on the band, except that it's metal. Same with bezel, no preference. I know, it sounds very picky and maybe it turns out Rolex isn't the brand for me, but the Air King was perfect except for the size. Just wondering if maybe there was something else out there that I haven't seen yet, that matches the above? or maybe an older model? Thanks everyone!

7 July 2016, 03:29 PM	#2
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	Explorer 1 __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

7 July 2016, 06:06 PM	#3
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	You are describing the 36mm oyster perpetual 116000. This is the current model. I do not believe it comes in black but I could be wrong. Attached Images

7 July 2016, 07:03 PM	#4
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	You are describing a Explorer 1. The OP does fit your wish list but does not come with a black dial. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

7 July 2016, 07:51 PM	#6
dddl 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Conshohocken Watch: What? Posts: 905	Explorer 1 http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=483352 __________________ dive deep dive long 1503 16263 16610 228238 16623

7 July 2016, 07:29 PM	#5
Rocket_Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,332	Exp I. Wait for the new Basel 2016 version, out soon. Classic and fits the bill.

7 July 2016, 08:11 PM	#7
Stefanlorentzon "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Stockholm Posts: 2	What about Tudor Black bay 36? Well its not stick dials, but dots and sticks, no mercedes hands but snow flake so not entirely "clean". But otherwise ig sounds like the one!

7 July 2016, 08:17 PM	#8
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,301	does it have to be a rolex? a Nomos Orion could pretty much cover all your requirements, including size, dial color, sticks, no date, simple hands and no extra colors on the dial? http://www.nomos-store.com/en/Watche...stal-back.html

7 July 2016, 08:22 PM	#9
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,183	Explorer 1 __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

7 July 2016, 10:12 PM	#10
Azpathfinder "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 32	Thank you all for the suggestions! The Explorer I seems to be the closest, except for the numbers (3 6 9) and the insignia on the hand. I guess j just have to decide how important having the perfect-watch-for-me is vs. what is out there. The Nomos is nice too, might have to expand my search outside of Rolex. Thank you all for the help, and if anyone else remembers any other options please let me know!

7 July 2016, 10:39 PM	#11
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,024	A basic black dialed 36mm DJ - cleave off the cyclops might be a direction to consider. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

7 July 2016, 10:44 PM	#12
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,697	Consider the 36mm in steel dial with sticks (shown above). Welcome to the forum. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

7 July 2016, 11:09 PM	#13
ragingcao "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Tokyo Watch: cha talking about? Posts: 2,919	Rolex Cellini perhaps? They do have black dials and date without the cyclops. It's a dress watch tho

8 July 2016, 12:26 AM	#14
Stefanlorentzon "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Stockholm Posts: 2	Forgot Picture, but BB36, an almost Rolex =)

8 July 2016, 05:31 AM	#16
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	Here's something to consider: the perfect watch is a difficult goal to attain. You could spend the rest of your life trying to find it...or, get the thing with the most realistic match to your criteria. So it sounds to me like the EXP is your best bet. Good luck,

8 July 2016, 09:44 AM	#17
judson "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Watch: changes depending Posts: 800	BB36 is pretty close.

8 July 2016, 10:54 AM	#18
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,258	I'd say either the Explorer or the new Tudor BB as stated above should fill the bill. Enjoy the hunt! __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

8 July 2016, 12:02 PM	#19
Azpathfinder "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 32	Wow, thank you everyone for the input so far, I really appreciate it! The 116200 Datejust I with the black dial seems to be the closest to what I'm looking for, and I've been googling a bit about what a couple of you mentioned. I saw that a few people have chisled off the Cyclops, which in no way do I have the calm hands to do. Would an AD do it? Or is that considered a huge no no? This is the one I've decided on - https://www.rolex.com/watches/dateju...6200-0059.html

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