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Wisher · 13 April 2016, 01:54 AM

In looking for my Pepsi GMT II, I came across this GMT II root-beer X series with serti dial. I tried it on in person, but wanted a Pepsi. Now, though, I am thinking that this also would add variety to the collection, so it has been on my mind ever since. It's a nice combination of sports/dressy. It's actually a pretty stunning watch, especially seen in person, with an unexpected subdued-color combination, i.e., neutral tans and browns diffusing the gold, diamonds and rubies.

I was searching the Internet to find more info about the watch, especially because of the serti dial, but I can't find much info. It looks like they aren't common, although "rare" would be overstating. Serti are more common on Subs. I think a few GMT IIs also came with serti, so this is likely Rolex original. However, I came across several sites also with serti watches, saying "Comes with custom-added dial". To me "custom-added" means "aftermarket".

So, I was wondering if the experts know about the dial.

The pic is from a seller's website.

Thanks

superstarmar · 13 April 2016, 02:05 AM

I've never seen a GMT serti dial combo from the factory .
Only TT Subs with factory serti dials...
That said the dial could be original factory and authentic but
taken from a TT Sub and refinished ...
Need other more experienced members in this area to chime in !!!
I'd do my due diligence before pulling the trigger though ...

powerfunk · 13 April 2016, 02:30 AM

Looks authentic to me.

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returntorolex · 13 April 2016, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

Looks authentic to me.

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Agreed. The picture appears legit.

The sub serti was offered with sapphires and diamonds.
The GMT serti was offered with Rubies and diamonds.

superstarmar · 13 April 2016, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by returntorolex

Agreed. The picture appears legit.

The sub serti was offered with sapphires and diamonds.
The GMT serti was offered with Rubies and diamonds.

I didn't know that ? I thought both serti combinations were offered
for the sub only ... Good to know , thanks Steve!!!

Chris B · 13 April 2016, 03:35 AM

We learn something new every day here , thank-you Steve for that little nugget

returntorolex · 13 April 2016, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superstarmar

I didn't know that ? I thought both serti combinations were offered
for the sub only ... Good to know , thanks Steve!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris B

We learn something new every day here , thank-you Steve for that little nugget

I owned the TT sub/serti with champagne dial. I believe both the GMT and sub versions were available in champagne and slate dials.

Muzz · 13 April 2016, 04:27 AM

Often referred to as a Sultan dial. The key to buying these watches is to ensure it comes with papers. Always been a big fan of these.

Danny83 · 13 April 2016, 04:34 AM

Factory

Runnin' Rebel · 13 April 2016, 05:15 AM

Looks factory as stated. Below was mine a few years ago

Wisher · 13 April 2016, 11:40 AM

Thanks for the good feedback. I did some more research and found other GMTs that were factory-installed with serti dials, so I feel better, knowing Rolex made such watches. It's interesting to note that the ruby dials are for the GMT while the sapphire ones are for the Sub. So one GMT I saw, which had a sapphire serti dial, was described as "custom added", which made sense. But the same seller had a GMT with ruby dial and described it also as "custom added". Either the seller isn't familiar with serti dials or is actually inserting "custom-made" dials on its own.

fskywalker · 21 July 2016, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisher

In looking for my Pepsi GMT II, I came across this GMT II root-beer X series with serti dial. I tried it on in person, but wanted a Pepsi. Now, though, I am thinking that this also would add variety to the collection, so it has been on my mind ever since. It's a nice combination of sports/dressy. It's actually a pretty stunning watch, especially seen in person, with an unexpected subdued-color combination, i.e., neutral tans and browns diffusing the gold, diamonds and rubies.

I was searching the Internet to find more info about the watch, especially because of the serti dial, but I can't find much info. It looks like they aren't common, although "rare" would be overstating. Serti are more common on Subs. I think a few GMT IIs also came with serti, so this is likely Rolex original. However, I came across several sites also with serti watches, saying "Comes with custom-added dial". To me "custom-added" means "aftermarket".

So, I was wondering if the experts know about the dial.

The pic is from a seller's website.

Thanks

Pretty combo!

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droptopman · 21 July 2016, 12:21 PM

That's a great looking watch. Love the gold hands with that combo.

crowncollection · 21 July 2016, 12:28 PM

Looks original IMHO

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jrs146 · 21 July 2016, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Looks factory as stated. Below was mine a few years ago

Holy smokes that's a good looking GMT!

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Abdullah71601 · 21 July 2016, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Looks factory as stated. Below was mine a few years ago

That is a great looking watch.

Bobby T · 22 July 2016, 01:02 AM

Curious.........did these ever come with the Coke or Pepsi dials or just the Root Beer as shown??

powerfunk · 22 July 2016, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby T

Curious.........did these ever come with the Coke or Pepsi dials or just the Root Beer as shown??

You could get them with a black insert too, but Sertis didn't come in SS; Pepsi/Coke only came on SS models.

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fskywalker · 22 July 2016, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

You could get them with a black insert too

What do you call a black insert? If you mean a black dial with diamonds don't beleive that was ever offered. Picture would help!

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masyv6 · 22 July 2016, 04:14 AM

I've never seen that before! Great looking GMT.

fskywalker · 24 July 2016, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by returntorolex

Agreed. The picture appears legit.

The GMT serti was offered with Rubies and diamonds.

Any pictures of one of these?

returntorolex · 24 July 2016, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Any pictures of one of these?

Not any I've taken (GMT). I owned the TT sub/serti.

Runnin' Rebel · 24 July 2016, 08:09 PM

So the Submariner 16613 came with a slate/silver serti dial or the champagne dial with 8 diamonds and 3 sapphires, sapphires were at the 6-9-12 markers. 18K/SS oyster bracelet.

Mine below has factory papers and was mint

Below is my GMT Root Beer Serti with oyster bracelet, all original with papers. Now I've seen these on a jubilee but with black bezels and champagne dials, all 18K gold, no SS at all. No papers. As you can see 3 Rubies on the 6-9-12 8 Diamonds on the rest of hour markers

Maybe someone else can add more

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fskywalker · 25 July 2016, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by returntorolex

Not any I've taken (GMT). I owned the TT sub/serti.

Thanks. I recently came across this 16713 with serti dial:

Which think looks good, but based on your descripton should be aftermarket dial

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returntorolex · 25 July 2016, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Thanks. I recently came across this 16713 with serti dial:

Which think looks good, but based on your descripton should be aftermarket dial

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Dial does not appear factory.

powerfunk · 27 July 2016, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fskywalker

What do you call a black insert?

"Insert" means "bezel insert."

Quote:

Originally Posted by returntorolex

Dial does not appear factory.

x2

fskywalker · 27 July 2016, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

"Insert" means "bezel insert."

Thanks!

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Working4better · 27 July 2016, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

So the Submariner 16613 came with a slate/silver serti dial or the champagne dial with 8 diamonds and 3 sapphires, sapphires were at the 6-9-12 markers. 18K/SS oyster bracelet.

Mine below has factory papers and was mint

Below is my GMT Root Beer Serti with oyster bracelet, all original with papers. Now I've seen these on a jubilee but with black bezels and champagne dials, all 18K gold, no SS at all. No papers. As you can see 3 Rubies on the 6-9-12 8 Diamonds on the rest of hour markers

Maybe someone else can add more

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Excuse my profanity, but those are some bad ass watches!

13 April 2016, 01:54 AM	#1
Wisher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Ron Location: Japan Watch: All of them Posts: 304	Is this serti dial factory or custom-added? In looking for my Pepsi GMT II, I came across this GMT II root-beer X series with serti dial. I tried it on in person, but wanted a Pepsi. Now, though, I am thinking that this also would add variety to the collection, so it has been on my mind ever since. It's a nice combination of sports/dressy. It's actually a pretty stunning watch, especially seen in person, with an unexpected subdued-color combination, i.e., neutral tans and browns diffusing the gold, diamonds and rubies. I was searching the Internet to find more info about the watch, especially because of the serti dial, but I can't find much info. It looks like they aren't common, although "rare" would be overstating. Serti are more common on Subs. I think a few GMT IIs also came with serti, so this is likely Rolex original. However, I came across several sites also with serti watches, saying "Comes with custom-added dial". To me "custom-added" means "aftermarket". So, I was wondering if the experts know about the dial. The pic is from a seller's website. Thanks

13 April 2016, 05:15 AM	#10
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	Looks factory as stated. Below was mine a few years ago __________________ ♛

21 July 2016, 12:21 PM	#13
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	That's a great looking watch. Love the gold hands with that combo. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

21 July 2016, 12:28 PM	#14
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Looks original IMHO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

24 July 2016, 08:09 PM	#23
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	Is this serti dial factory or custom-added? So the Submariner 16613 came with a slate/silver serti dial or the champagne dial with 8 diamonds and 3 sapphires, sapphires were at the 6-9-12 markers. 18K/SS oyster bracelet. Mine below has factory papers and was mint Below is my GMT Root Beer Serti with oyster bracelet, all original with papers. Now I've seen these on a jubilee but with black bezels and champagne dials, all 18K gold, no SS at all. No papers. As you can see 3 Rubies on the 6-9-12 8 Diamonds on the rest of hour markers Maybe someone else can add more Sent from... __________________ ♛

13 April 2016, 02:05 AM	#2
superstarmar Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: In Motion Watch: my wrist presence Posts: 7,436	I've never seen a GMT serti dial combo from the factory . Only TT Subs with factory serti dials... That said the dial could be original factory and authentic but taken from a TT Sub and refinished ... Need other more experienced members in this area to chime in !!! I'd do my due diligence before pulling the trigger though ...

13 April 2016, 02:30 AM	#3
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,799	Looks authentic to me. Sent from my 0PM92 using Tapatalk

13 April 2016, 03:35 AM	#6
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	We learn something new every day here , thank-you Steve for that little nugget

13 April 2016, 04:27 AM	#8
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	Often referred to as a Sultan dial. The key to buying these watches is to ensure it comes with papers. Always been a big fan of these.

13 April 2016, 04:34 AM	#9
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,314	Factory

13 April 2016, 11:40 AM	#11
Wisher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Ron Location: Japan Watch: All of them Posts: 304	Thanks for the good feedback. I did some more research and found other GMTs that were factory-installed with serti dials, so I feel better, knowing Rolex made such watches. It's interesting to note that the ruby dials are for the GMT while the sapphire ones are for the Sub. So one GMT I saw, which had a sapphire serti dial, was described as "custom added", which made sense. But the same seller had a GMT with ruby dial and described it also as "custom added". Either the seller isn't familiar with serti dials or is actually inserting "custom-made" dials on its own.

22 July 2016, 01:02 AM	#17
Bobby T Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 934	Curious.........did these ever come with the Coke or Pepsi dials or just the Root Beer as shown??

22 July 2016, 04:14 AM	#20
masyv6 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,771	I've never seen that before! Great looking GMT.

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