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Old 9 August 2016, 08:41 AM   #1
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Tudor 7928 Received Today

Hi everyone,

I just received my 2nd Tudor 7928. I bought this one for a good price from fleabay. When I compared it with my other 7928, I didn't see any problems that stick out. (I have 14 days to return the watch if I'm not happy with it).

- If you see any problems (it's the 7928 on the left in the pictures), could you please let me know? (I'm aware that this watch has a re-painted dial, and its hands are not in great shape.) (My other 7928 has re-lumed hands.)
- I noticed that there's some corrosion at the back of the case. Is there anything I could do about this corrosion?
- I also noticed that the stamping between the lugs is a just little different than my other one.
- In case you're wondering why I bought a Tudor 7928 with a re-painted dial, I already have an original, service dial for the 7928 (the shield dial for the 390 movement). I thought once this service dial is on the watch, it would look pretty cool.

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Old 9 August 2016, 05:15 PM   #2
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Apart from what you listed seems OK
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Old 9 August 2016, 09:27 PM   #3
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Old 9 August 2016, 10:02 PM   #4
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Thanks, gentlemen. I'll try to remove the corrosion in the back of the case and ask my watchmaker to replace the dial. I'll post more pictures once the watch is ready.
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Old 9 August 2016, 11:09 PM   #5
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Was watching that one... My lack of service dial precluded me from purchasing it. Looking forward to its completion!
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Thanks, gentlemen. I'll try to remove the corrosion in the back of the case and ask my watchmaker to replace the dial. I'll post more pictures once the watch is ready.
I think the "corrosion" is actually pitting that would need to be filled via laser welding. Unless you really need this watch to be watertight, I'd probably just leave it be.
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Old 10 August 2016, 01:43 AM   #7
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I'll leave it alone then.

Speaking of watertight, it's ironic: I have a nice collection of vintage diver watches and I'm an open water diver. But I never wear any of my watches while I dive.

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I think the "corrosion" is actually pitting that would need to be filled via laser welding. Unless you really need this watch to be watertight, I'd probably just leave it be.
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Old 10 August 2016, 01:46 AM   #8
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I lucked out with the service dial. I bought it for a good deal, hoping I can find a 7928 with a repainted dial for a reasonable price. I'm glad it worked out :)

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Was watching that one... My lack of service dial precluded me from purchasing it. Looking forward to its completion!
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Old 13 August 2016, 10:18 AM   #9
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Hi everyone,

I wanted to give an update on the progress of my "new" 7928: My watchmaker replaced the dial with my service dial; renewed the gaskets; and even fixed a problem with the movement (the rotor was touching the case and making annoying sounds). He was able to find Rolex parts to fix this problem. He also decided not to touch the corrosion on the back of the case. So far so good.

But he also re-lumed the hands with a disgusting white lume (despite I asked him not to touch the hands). My watchmaker is old, so I guess he forgot that I asked him not to touch the hands. I asked him if he can re-lume the hands so that they match the lume color of the dial (with orange lume or a similar color). He said he only has white lume.

Can you gentlemen recommend anyone who can re-lume these hands with a decent color (say, orange or dark yellow)?

Here's a picture of the watch. The dial looks pretty good, but the hands look simply horrific.
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Well, he has done a nice job on the hands, but sadly incorrect to the dial.
Maybe better to search and find NOS hands?
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Old 14 August 2016, 01:29 AM   #11
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Thanks, Gladiator. Yes, the watchmaker is very talented. I wish he knew how to match the color of the lume.

I've been looking for NOS hands, but the ones I've seen are crazy expensive.

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Well, he has done a nice job on the hands, but sadly incorrect to the dial.
Maybe better to search and find NOS hands?
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Old 14 August 2016, 01:33 AM   #12
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Yes, he is obviously very talented, its a great job.
Maybe if you find him the correct color lume, he can then repaint.
Most people just buy white.

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Old 14 August 2016, 02:17 AM   #13
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Thanks again, Gladiator. I didn't think of buying lume online and asking him to re-lume the hands. What a great idea!

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Yes, he is obviously very talented, its a great job.
Maybe if you find him the correct color lume, he can then repaint.
Most people just buy white.

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Old 14 August 2016, 03:35 AM   #14
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I heard some people dip the newly lumed hands in coffee/tea to match the color of the dial. I wonder if that really works?
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I heard some people dip the newly lumed hands in coffee/tea to match the color of the dial. I wonder if that really works?
Argh - please NO.
Modern, Rolex hands are gold to protect them, and the thought od dipping them into coffee??!!
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Old 14 August 2016, 06:52 AM   #16
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Thanks, Gladiator. Yes, the watchmaker is very talented. I wish he knew how to match the color of the lume.
It's fairly easy to do, with several different methods:

* Pre-pigmented lume powder + clear binder/resin.
* Standard/white lume powder + pigment powder/dye + clear binder/resin.
* Standard/white lume powder + tinted binder/resin.
* Any combo of the above.

There are a couple different companies out there that sell complete lume kits with different pigments to get the exact color you wish.

You would just need to experiment with different ratios before applying to dial/hands.

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Haha. OK, I won't do the coffee adjustment :)

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Argh - please NO.
Modern, Rolex hands are gold to protect them, and the thought od dipping them into coffee??!!
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Old 14 August 2016, 07:56 AM   #18
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Thanks for the info, freefly. I'll try one of the lume sets. I don't think I can relume the hands myself, but I'll ask my watchmaker.

I'll keep you gentlemen updated and post more pictures when the hands look better.

By the way, I will get hands on my other 7928 also relumed. Whoever did that relume job, smear the lume all over the hands. My only concern is that my other Submariner has greenish lume on the dial. That patina may be more difficult to match than the yellowish patina on the service dial.


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It's fairly easy to do, with several
different methods:

* Pre-pigmented lume powder + clear binder/resin.
* Standard/white lume powder + pigment powder/dye + clear binder/resin.
* Standard/white lume powder + tinted binder/resin.
* Any combo of the above.

There are a couple different companies out there that sell complete lume kits with different pigments to get the exact color you wish.

You would just need to experiment with different ratios before applying to dial/hands.

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Thanks for the info, freefly. I'll try one of the lume sets. I don't think I can relume the hands myself, but I'll ask my watchmaker.
No prob. If you are competent enough to get the hands off/out, then it's a pretty simple job to relume them (a lot easier than the dial).
Once the old lume is removed, just stick a couple cut-down wooden skewers, or sharpened doweling into some Rodico (pointy-end up) and place the hands on them (upside down).
Then after getting the desired lume mix color/consistency, you can brush it onto the backs of the hands with a fine-tip paint brush or movement oiler.
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No prob. If you are competent enough to get the hands off/out, then it's a pretty simple job to relume them (a lot easier than the dial).
Once the old lume is removed, just stick a couple cut-down wooden skewers, or sharpened doweling into some Rodico (pointy-end up) and place the hands on them (upside down).
Then after getting the desired lume mix color/consistency, you can brush it onto the backs of the hands with a fine-tip paint brush or movement oiler.
Nice Help
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