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Canook · 11 September 2016, 08:33 PM

Ok as I'm a serial flipper I've run out of rolex to buy lol!!
Now I've got 5 rolexs and a panerai 359 and out of them I mostly wear my hulk and SD with the Daytona as my "going out" watch.
The offer has been presented to swap my 116613LB and my pam359 for a 2012 AP RO Safari chrono with an extra strap and a genuine steel bracelet complete set......
I'll still have 4 Rolex and a Tudor so I can still play here but is it worth it?
Opinions as I'm a weak man and I need some stable opinions

Canook · 11 September 2016, 08:36 PM

I've actually got my choice of the safari or the race black

Passionata · 11 September 2016, 08:43 PM

Take the Safari my fav ROO!

travisb · 11 September 2016, 08:44 PM

I'd do it. The Safari is a very nice piece and you'd still have a good mix of Rolex. Add a black rubber strap and you get a nice option for a sportier look. If you've never owned AP you're in for a treat and maybe some trouble moving forward.

Ruud Van Driver · 11 September 2016, 08:55 PM

I couldn't let my 359 go but if you're not wearing either watch much and you're happy with the numbers then go for it. Go for the white dial

padi56 · 11 September 2016, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canook

Ok as I'm a serial flipper I've run out of rolex to buy lol!!
Now I've got 5 rolexs and a panerai 359 and out of them I mostly wear my hulk and SD with the Daytona as my "going out" watch.
The offer has been presented to swap my 116613LB and my pam359 for a 2012 AP RO Safari chrono with an extra strap and a genuine steel bracelet complete set......
I'll still have 4 Rolex and a Tudor so I can still play here but is it worth it?
Opinions as I'm a weak man and I need some stable opinions

They do say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but afraid none of the RO range does anything for me, good movements but just dont like the style.

Andad · 11 September 2016, 09:09 PM

X2..

ever · 11 September 2016, 09:14 PM

don't do it

Canook · 11 September 2016, 09:18 PM

I was leaning towards the safari (white more then black) it includes a genuine stainless bracelet ( as on the black one) the genuine brown hornback and an aftermarket black with red stitching and a 2 year warranty

Samui · 11 September 2016, 09:19 PM

I would do it. It will add variety to your collection and the ROO is a great watch.

Snow-Dweller · 11 September 2016, 09:34 PM

I had a 15400 and a Diver for a year. I was happy to go AP for a while, but not as happy as when I returned to Rolex and went PM.

Passionata · 11 September 2016, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canook

I was leaning towards the safari (white more then black) it includes a genuine stainless bracelet ( as on the black one) the genuine brown hornback and an aftermarket black with red stitching and a 2 year warranty

Pull the trigger ,None of the watches you exchange are comparable to the ROO and two years warranty is perfect.

1William · 11 September 2016, 09:55 PM

I would not do it. For another watch maybe, but that the Safari does not do it for me.

rmlovett1 · 11 September 2016, 10:17 PM

I'd do it only if you're not wearing/getting enjoyment out of the ones you're going to trade....and only for the new model safari(I like the dark subdials) just my opinion! :)

Muzz · 11 September 2016, 10:27 PM

I would lean towards the black themes over the Safari but that is just me. The aftermarket spare strap for the Safari has zero value.

I do not think that this is a fantastic deal for you in any regard and unless these examples are complete with B&P, I would avoid.

fskywalker · 11 September 2016, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ever

don't do it

x2

Verdi · 11 September 2016, 10:39 PM

I would not do it for a RO chrono. I would do it for a mint modern RO, index dial, date only. The classic RO.

While I admire AP and RO as a model, it seems to me that AP tries to squeeze the RO model to get out as many variations as possible. Some models began to look like Hublot and I personally don't dig the busy dials and the oversized crown and pushers.
Jst the way I see it....

PS: Value wise it is always better to sell the watches yourself and have the cash ready when the right watch comes your way.

kilyung · 11 September 2016, 10:40 PM

That deal's slightly in your favor I think. However long-term the 116613 has the best resale of the three watches on the table. I'd probably do the trade but for the black themes rather than the Safari.

~JJ · 11 September 2016, 10:42 PM

Sounds like your getting the short end of the stick... I thought LBs have a much higher resale value than an 2012 roo safari. Plus, your adding a PAM on top? You may do better selling your pieces and purchasing the roo.

Edit: sorry, I thought you had the full gold sub. T

Canook · 12 September 2016, 02:47 AM

Yeah I'm on the fence with this one.. My heart is telling me to do it because I really love the ROO but not sure if it's worth both my watches for it.. Albeit I don't really wear them that's shouldn't be a reason just to swap I know....
Dilemmas dilemmas lol! I was leaning towards the safari just because in my eyes the black dial looks like a million other chrono's that are SS black dial...
I'll sleep on it and get some perspective tomorrow..

Corsair66 · 12 September 2016, 02:50 AM

I wouldn't do it, but I've never cared at all for the RO styling. If it works for you, then why not? You could always flip back! :-)

beer · 12 September 2016, 03:08 AM

absolutely especially with the extra steel bracelet which is about $2k alone that is a great deal in your favour...

HogwldFLTR · 12 September 2016, 04:04 AM

Follow your heart; anything else isn't genuine... Let us know the decision.

Ravager135 · 12 September 2016, 04:11 AM

I like the newer Safari. They made some subtle changes that I think improved the overall look. I think it's worth adding an AP to your collection but I'd go with the black dial if given this choice.

Dr.Brian · 12 September 2016, 04:32 AM

I'm a safari fan myself, it's one of the reasons that I've not bought another watch I'm looking at now. I'm not a flipper, so until I decide, I just wait. There's something about it that just works.

AK797 · 12 September 2016, 05:59 AM

I'd go for the safari or panda, for black I'd look at the new version.

Canook · 12 September 2016, 02:53 PM

Well my sleep has answered nothing lol! I've only ever regretted selling one of my watches and that was my first Daytona to buy the bluesy.... And don't get me wrong I love the LB but day to day it get zero wrist time between my SD and hulk. Now I've bought another Daytona it's my "dress shirt" watch.
Now that I've acquired the smaller watch bug the pam feels like a clock on my wrist so it doesn't get worn either.... I know I'm convincing myself but I hate regrets!

Cru Jones · 12 September 2016, 03:29 PM

Those are two really nice watches, so I would make the trade for a "grail" piece only. I don't think the Safari qualifies as a "grail" and, in any event, you are not even sure between the Safari and the Black Themes (also not a "grail"). So, I'd hold off for sure.

BTW, you write just above that the 359 is too big for you.... The ROO will wear just as large and is visually more "present" (it's a large 42), so, another reason to slow down.

Flip the two plus add cash for a 15202? Now we're talking! Amazing "grail" for which it's worth trading two great watches and a much better fit for your collection (and wrist), too.

Danny83 · 12 September 2016, 03:36 PM

Do it

DeeTee · 12 September 2016, 03:59 PM

Sell them private party.
The ROO 42mm have horrible resale. Friends don't let friends buy a ROO 42mm.
Now if you were talking about a 41mm RO or 44mm Novelty ROO, I would tell you to jump on it.

11 September 2016, 08:33 PM	#1
Canook "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jason Location: Aussie/Malaysia Watch: too many to list Posts: 1,470	Deal or no deal? Be my conscience please! Ok as I'm a serial flipper I've run out of rolex to buy lol!! Now I've got 5 rolexs and a panerai 359 and out of them I mostly wear my hulk and SD with the Daytona as my "going out" watch. The offer has been presented to swap my 116613LB and my pam359 for a 2012 AP RO Safari chrono with an extra strap and a genuine steel bracelet complete set...... I'll still have 4 Rolex and a Tudor so I can still play here but is it worth it? Opinions as I'm a weak man and I need some stable opinions __________________ Current lineup -116610LV Sub -16233 Tapestry Datejust -16610LV KERMIT -116600 SD4000....16612 Yachtmaster- 16710 PEPSI -216570(polar)- -Yachtmaster II 116688 126300 Datejust 41 jubilee * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

11 September 2016, 08:36 PM	#2
Canook "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jason Location: Aussie/Malaysia Watch: too many to list Posts: 1,470	I've actually got my choice of the safari or the race black Attached Images __________________ Current lineup -116610LV Sub -16233 Tapestry Datejust -16610LV KERMIT -116600 SD4000....16612 Yachtmaster- 16710 PEPSI -216570(polar)- -Yachtmaster II 116688 126300 Datejust 41 jubilee * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

11 September 2016, 08:43 PM	#3
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	Take the Safari my fav ROO! __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

11 September 2016, 08:55 PM	#5
Ruud Van Driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chopped Liver Location: S. Wales Valleys Watch: Mickey Mouse Posts: 9,926	I couldn't let my 359 go but if you're not wearing either watch much and you're happy with the numbers then go for it. Go for the white dial __________________ 116520 Black, 116610 LVc, 116660 D-Blue, 116610 LNc, 116622 Blue, PAM359, PAM689, PAM737 *"Why should you allow an AD to shake you down, just so you can buy a watch" - Grady Philpott* Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

11 September 2016, 09:09 PM	#7
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11 September 2016, 08:44 PM	#4
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	I'd do it. The Safari is a very nice piece and you'd still have a good mix of Rolex. Add a black rubber strap and you get a nice option for a sportier look. If you've never owned AP you're in for a treat and maybe some trouble moving forward.

11 September 2016, 09:14 PM	#8
ever "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: south Posts: 165	don't do it

11 September 2016, 09:18 PM	#9
Canook "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jason Location: Aussie/Malaysia Watch: too many to list Posts: 1,470	I was leaning towards the safari (white more then black) it includes a genuine stainless bracelet ( as on the black one) the genuine brown hornback and an aftermarket black with red stitching and a 2 year warranty __________________ Current lineup -116610LV Sub -16233 Tapestry Datejust -16610LV KERMIT -116600 SD4000....16612 Yachtmaster- 16710 PEPSI -216570(polar)- -Yachtmaster II 116688 126300 Datejust 41 jubilee * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

11 September 2016, 09:19 PM	#10
Samui Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Tokyo Posts: 611	I would do it. It will add variety to your collection and the ROO is a great watch.

11 September 2016, 09:34 PM	#11
Snow-Dweller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Clive Location: The Alps Watch: collections change Posts: 6,284	I had a 15400 and a Diver for a year. I was happy to go AP for a while, but not as happy as when I returned to Rolex and went PM. __________________ . The path from WIShood to WISdom can have many turnings... ——————————————————————————————————— . 16803. 16570. 18038. 114300. GMW-B5000D.

11 September 2016, 09:55 PM	#13
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,776	I would not do it. For another watch maybe, but that the Safari does not do it for me.

11 September 2016, 10:17 PM	#14
rmlovett1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 23,509	I'd do it only if you're not wearing/getting enjoyment out of the ones you're going to trade....and only for the new model safari(I like the dark subdials) just my opinion! :)

11 September 2016, 10:27 PM	#15
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	I would lean towards the black themes over the Safari but that is just me. The aftermarket spare strap for the Safari has zero value. I do not think that this is a fantastic deal for you in any regard and unless these examples are complete with B&P, I would avoid.

11 September 2016, 10:39 PM	#17
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	I would not do it for a RO chrono. I would do it for a mint modern RO, index dial, date only. The classic RO. While I admire AP and RO as a model, it seems to me that AP tries to squeeze the RO model to get out as many variations as possible. Some models began to look like Hublot and I personally don't dig the busy dials and the oversized crown and pushers. Jst the way I see it.... PS: Value wise it is always better to sell the watches yourself and have the cash ready when the right watch comes your way. __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

11 September 2016, 10:40 PM	#18
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	That deal's slightly in your favor I think. However long-term the 116613 has the best resale of the three watches on the table. I'd probably do the trade but for the black themes rather than the Safari.

11 September 2016, 10:42 PM	#19
~JJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Watch: explorer Posts: 2,291	Sounds like your getting the short end of the stick... I thought LBs have a much higher resale value than an 2012 roo safari. Plus, your adding a PAM on top? You may do better selling your pieces and purchasing the roo. Edit: sorry, I thought you had the full gold sub. T

12 September 2016, 02:47 AM	#20
Canook "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jason Location: Aussie/Malaysia Watch: too many to list Posts: 1,470	Yeah I'm on the fence with this one.. My heart is telling me to do it because I really love the ROO but not sure if it's worth both my watches for it.. Albeit I don't really wear them that's shouldn't be a reason just to swap I know.... Dilemmas dilemmas lol! I was leaning towards the safari just because in my eyes the black dial looks like a million other chrono's that are SS black dial... I'll sleep on it and get some perspective tomorrow.. __________________ Current lineup -116610LV Sub -16233 Tapestry Datejust -16610LV KERMIT -116600 SD4000....16612 Yachtmaster- 16710 PEPSI -216570(polar)- -Yachtmaster II 116688 126300 Datejust 41 jubilee * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

12 September 2016, 02:50 AM	#21
Corsair66 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Clermont, FL Watch: BLRO Posts: 282	I wouldn't do it, but I've never cared at all for the RO styling. If it works for you, then why not? You could always flip back! :-)

12 September 2016, 03:08 AM	#22
beer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Watch Dealer atm! Watch: all Posts: 2,800	absolutely especially with the extra steel bracelet which is about $2k alone that is a great deal in your favour... __________________

12 September 2016, 04:04 AM	#23
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,693	Follow your heart; anything else isn't genuine... Let us know the decision. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

12 September 2016, 04:11 AM	#24
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,224	I like the newer Safari. They made some subtle changes that I think improved the overall look. I think it's worth adding an AP to your collection but I'd go with the black dial if given this choice.

12 September 2016, 04:32 AM	#25
Dr.Brian 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: CA dreamin' Watch: ing the market. Posts: 5,906	I'm a safari fan myself, it's one of the reasons that I've not bought another watch I'm looking at now. I'm not a flipper, so until I decide, I just wait. There's something about it that just works. __________________ -Brian AUDENTES FORTUNA IUVAT 十人十色

12 September 2016, 05:59 AM	#26
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I'd go for the safari or panda, for black I'd look at the new version.

12 September 2016, 02:53 PM	#27
Canook "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jason Location: Aussie/Malaysia Watch: too many to list Posts: 1,470	Well my sleep has answered nothing lol! I've only ever regretted selling one of my watches and that was my first Daytona to buy the bluesy.... And don't get me wrong I love the LB but day to day it get zero wrist time between my SD and hulk. Now I've bought another Daytona it's my "dress shirt" watch. Now that I've acquired the smaller watch bug the pam feels like a clock on my wrist so it doesn't get worn either.... I know I'm convincing myself but I hate regrets! __________________ Current lineup -116610LV Sub -16233 Tapestry Datejust -16610LV KERMIT -116600 SD4000....16612 Yachtmaster- 16710 PEPSI -216570(polar)- -Yachtmaster II 116688 126300 Datejust 41 jubilee * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

12 September 2016, 03:29 PM	#28
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,299	Those are two really nice watches, so I would make the trade for a "grail" piece only. I don't think the Safari qualifies as a "grail" and, in any event, you are not even sure between the Safari and the Black Themes (also not a "grail"). So, I'd hold off for sure. BTW, you write just above that the 359 is too big for you.... The ROO will wear just as large and is visually more "present" (it's a large 42), so, another reason to slow down. Flip the two plus add cash for a 15202? Now we're talking! Amazing "grail" for which it's worth trading two great watches and a much better fit for your collection (and wrist), too.

12 September 2016, 03:36 PM	#29
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,312	Do it

12 September 2016, 03:59 PM	#30
DeeTee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Netflix Posts: 3,978	Sell them private party. The ROO 42mm have horrible resale. Friends don't let friends buy a ROO 42mm. Now if you were talking about a 41mm RO or 44mm Novelty ROO, I would tell you to jump on it.

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