RO perpetual pt

[lapince]

Originally Posted by goog53

"keeping up with the Joneses" by definition:
to always want to own the same expensive objects and do the same things as your friends or neighbours, because you are worried about seeming less important socially than they are"

A little harsh IMO and a statement you shouldn't be making considering you don't know the guy personally. Not trying to start a pissing match but you are very opinionated my friend and more often than not come off very condescending. What's up with that? You are very critical of Patek, AP, and other popular brands which is fine as you are entitled to your opinion and seem to be "Mr. Independent Watch Brand". Enlighten Us all and show us what pieces you currently have in your collection so we can get inspiration and learn how to build an appropriate collection that meets your standards.

It's PJ's way of saying what he thinks, don't worry I know it wasn't meant in a mean way,, I didn't take any offense by it, to be honest it made me laugh. Anyways it's true when you are on a forum about things you love, you are carried away in some moments. I think today was one of those days for me, have wanted a full PT watch, and thought this was a good possibility... Ben and Paul put me back to my senses with the first post, I can't say the design makes me crazy, very nice but not my style when I think about it, basically 70% of the interest was in the PT, not in the rest...

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Won't a full Pt piece be TOO heavy for you, Arnaud? Countless times you've brought up how heavy PM pieces are, and now you're looking into a mid 200 gram watch?
Past the weight, I had the 28520st PC in blue, wonderful piece. The Pt version has to be even more special and amazing.

I always wanted a full PT watch, and you are probably right Mike, in any case I will probabky never find one that I am crazy about in my acceptable price zone, love the ultra thin date in PT, one is on chrono 24 at 124K new, that will not be possible sorry, why do you never get the 40-50% discounts on these watches, really sucks

Originally Posted by jschmidtdmd

You have plenty of great decisions to make!

I agree with some of the sentiments above, and I certainly have some thoughts of my own.

I would consider 100% passing on the 5711. If it is a must have watch for you, I would only add the 5711r. You say you can't wear a RG watch....I said the same, until I owned one.

Instead of going for a sub dial calendar piece, I think the openwork is a fantastic watch, and may fit your collection/style better! Selling the diver is no big deal. They are around. There will be more incarnations of them.

Just my thoughts.

Thanks John. About a watch like a 5711-1R, where I live the wages have plundered with the crisis, a watch like that represents many, many, many years of the minimum wage, i really would not feel comfortable wearing something like this, if almost any guy who sees it will understand that kind of bothers me, while my other watches will never draw any attention except with people that know.

And yes open is much nicer than PC, it would have been another metal I wouldn't havep bothered

[Lordofrolex]

Pretty hard choices. I would go with salmon.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by lapince

Thanks John. About a watch like a 5711-1R, where I live the wages have plundered with the crisis, a watch like that represents many, many, many years of the minimum wage, i really would not feel comfortable wearing something like this, if almost any guy who sees it will understand that kind of bothers me, while my other watches will never draw any attention except with people that know.

But you're okay with your other PP's? You have a RG Aqua right?

[benlee]

Originally Posted by lapince

Thanks John. About a watch like a 5711-1R, where I live the wages have plundered with the crisis, a watch like that represents many, many, many years of the minimum wage, i really would not feel comfortable wearing something like this, if almost any guy who sees it will understand that kind of bothers me, while my other watches will never draw any attention except with people that know.

And yes open is much nicer than PC, it would have been another metal I wouldn't havep bothered

Actually most people I think can tell an expensive watch whether in colored or white metal. Even white metal watches can shine a lot and looks super expensive, example platinum. So if you are going to buy that Platinum Royal Oak with the typical RO shiny bracelet and say not covered with long sleeve, it's going to flash around like a sparking diamond in most cases and everyone is going to be able to tell that it's expensive.

So to avoid such situation is to wear them selectively or not at all when the situation warrants a lower profile. Not so much the color of the watch case. Just MHO. That's why I keep my Sistem51 and Tissot handy for such purposes.

[jschmidtdmd]

^ I agree with both statements......wrist presence isn't just based around the metal

[lapince]

Originally Posted by texex91

But you're okay with your other PP's? You have a RG Aqua right?

Yes but the Aqua is basically as low profile as you can go, sure it's gold, but the average guy will think it's a 10-15K watch, many people have gold watches here, but not many have full gold, the last time I saw one was a 5980-1R, and the guy was clearly not from around here, and that was a long time ago. As for the others, in years of wearing the 5712, only one person asked me about them, if it was the Royal Oak, lol, that's what I like in them, very under the radar.
Maybe one day, but for now can't imagine wearing full gold, too much attention for me...

[lapince]

Originally Posted by benlee

Actually most people I think can tell an expensive watch whether in colored or white metal. Even white metal watches can shine a lot and looks super expensive, example platinum. So if you are going to buy that Platinum Royal Oak with the typical RO shiny bracelet and say not covered with long sleeve, it's going to flash around like a sparking diamond in most cases and everyone is going to be able to tell that it's expensive.

So to avoid such situation is to wear them selectively or not at all when the situation warrants a lower profile. Not so much the color of the watch case. Just MHO. That's why I keep my Sistem51 and Tissot handy for such purposes.

Not sure Ben, thus the success of fake watches, for most people who don't know much about watches, the difference real and fake is hard to see, even for people who know a good fake looks real unless closer inspection, but I do agree that certain metals will shine, but until now have never had a WG or PT watch, the Voutilainen will be the first WG. Have had 2 RG, Daytona in strap and the Aqua

[texex91]

Originally Posted by lapince

Yes but the Aqua is basically as low profile as you can go, sure it's gold, but the average guy will think it's a 10-15K watch, many people have gold watches here, but not many have full gold, the last time I saw one was a 5980-1R, and the guy was clearly not from around here, and that was a long time ago. As for the others, in years of wearing the 5712, only one person asked me about them, if it was the Royal Oak, lol, that's what I like in them, very under the radar.
Maybe one day, but for now can't imagine wearing full gold, too much attention for me...

I can appreciate the gold thing. Even in Austin, RG is just too loud for me. The 011-02 will be last RG watch for me. Don't get me wrong, I love the way RG looks, but for me to pull it off I'd really have to live in LA, Miami, SG, HK, etc...just too in your face in a laid back place like Austin (and my lifestyle).

I wear short sleeves (golf shirts, etc) most of the time vs under a dress shirt, so it doesn't help matters.

Plus my milky white skin tone with the RG...ooofffff

It's why I've owned the 26401RO three times. Stunning watch, but same issues.

[lapince]

Interesting, the director of the AP boutique in Paris, who sold me the diver, answered my mail saying that the 15407 in SS was not available actually and he will write me when they recieve one, of course they can show me the RG, guess I will take a look, if it fits me I will order it in SS, the price is less than I thought, and with discount, got 10 on the diver, suppose 5 or 10 is not a problem, plus tax refund, it is much cheaper than what I had thought, and would add something very interesting to my small collection.
I did try some RG skeletons last time I was there, fantastic though the 15407 wasn't one of them, but have no idea if they are 39 or 41...

Originally Posted by texex91

I can appreciate the gold thing. Even in Austin, RG is just too loud for me. The 011-02 will be last RG watch for me. Don't get me wrong, I love the way RG looks, but for me to pull it off I'd really have to live in LA, Miami, SG, HK, etc...just too in your face in a laid back place like Austin (and my lifestyle).

I wear short sleeves (golf shirts, etc) most of the time vs under a dress shirt, so it doesn't help matters.

Plus my milky white skin tone with the RG...ooofffff

It's why I've owned the 26401RO three times. Stunning watch, but same issues.

Same here, I love how RG looks, but just too much bling for me, on strap is as far as I can go, and probably will go.

Anyways thanks for the skeleton idea, if the fit is good for me I think there should be an incoming, hard to say when as I don't know when they will recieve one, but if the RG fit is good will most surely put an advance for the SS.
About the diver selling it would be stupid, so it will stay, it will always be time when I need the money, to see what piece to move, in any case I didn't know what was the retail on it, basically 43K euros, I was expecting more around 48, so if I get a small discount and tax refund as I live outside of the EU, it is very interesting...
Lol 3 times is a lot, it is a stunning watch, just a little too loud for me, was quite hard to decide between it and the Aqua, as for me they are my 2 favorite and 'reasonably priced' RG on strap pieces, but had a feeling that if I got the AP I would rarely wear it and it would go. The Aquanaut fills perfectly the RG spot for me...

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by lapince

I did try some RG skeletons last time I was there, fantastic though the 15407 wasn't one of them, but have no idea if they are 39 or 41...

You'll have tried on the 15305 or 15204 (extra thin) — both being 39mm, as you can guess from their references.

[WatchKit]

15407= 41"

[lapince]

Originally Posted by PJ S

You'll have tried on the 15305 or 15204 (extra thin) — both being 39mm, as you can guess from their references.

Wasn't the 15305, must've been the 15204

Originally Posted by WatchKit

15407= 41"

Not a big fan of the 15400 size as I find the proportions better in 39, but I think it should look better with skeleton dial, in any case don't love the SS 15305, too much grey going on, 15407 might be nicer in thar sense.