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BLACKHORSE 6 · 3 December 2016, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smellychips

the "bracelet" police are well and truly active in this thread! ... the world of watch wearing would be a boring place if we all looked the same.
good for you for sharing this even though you knew deep down the criticism would be thrown at you. respect for wearing and enjoying your watch in daily activity instead of keeping it in a vacuum sealed glass case like so many do these days.

Yeah, thanks.

ilovewatchestoo · 3 December 2016, 05:35 AM

Sucks I'm sorry for your loss. Perhaps the "cheap and flimsy" strap should be retired or burned.

2th_doc · 3 December 2016, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fleetlord

That isn't a NATO.

What is it then?

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Boaters · 3 December 2016, 06:23 AM

Wow that sucks full service for sure

southcarolina1801 · 3 December 2016, 06:31 AM

Let this be a lesson for people to stop putting $10k watches on $5 straps.

Fleetlord · 3 December 2016, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 2th_doc

What is it then?

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Hi!

It's called a ZULU strap.

https://countycomm.com/collections/w...l-series-bands

It lacks the extra "flap" of a NATO.

They wear differently.

TitanCi · 3 December 2016, 08:45 AM

People should remember that changing to a strap like this calls for thicker spring bars too. Obviously not the case here, as the head is still attached to strap.

Lordofrolex · 3 December 2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stuffbox2000

Why would you put a $7,000.00 Daytona head on anything less than an original factory bracelet? How much did that makeshift band cost? 5 bucks?

Personally think your wrong with your statement. I personally like the look of it on the nato. Its funky and a nice change up.

No SUBctitute · 3 December 2016, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACKHORSE 6

Yes, have insurance on the watch but hoping I don't have to use it. Hopeful the at worst it'll be the cost of a service plus the crystal. We'all see.

I assume you don't want to use because you are afraid your rates will rise. Can someone in the insurance industry weigh in on how such a claim might affect your premium?

JP Chestnut · 3 December 2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

I assume you don't want to use because you are afraid your rates will rise. Can someone in the insurance industry weigh in on how such a claim might affect your premium?

It totally depends - carrier, claim threshold, claim history.

No SUBctitute · 3 December 2016, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

It totally depends - carrier, claim threshold, claim history.

Roger. I understand there are lots of variables, however I'd like to hear from someone with a lot of industry knowledge what they have seen happen in a situation like that, knowing that it may be totally dissimilar to the current situation here.

Yogi20 · 3 December 2016, 10:08 AM

Bad news but you will get a stunning watch back, send the original strap back with it so you get that polished up too

TickTockChuck · 3 December 2016, 11:11 AM

Sorry to hear of your mishap and damaged Daytona. With the chance that water got inside I'm guessing a full service plus cost of the crystal replacement. I understand about flying under the radar depending on your travels. Maybe there are more secure casual straps on the market? Otherwise perhaps just remove & pocket it temporarily if you anticipate vigorous activity. Again, sorry to hear of your mishap.

JP Chestnut · 3 December 2016, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

Roger. I understand there are lots of variables, however I'd like to hear from someone with a lot of industry knowledge what they have seen happen in a situation like that, knowing that it may be totally dissimilar to the current situation here.

Would you like to see my resume? Some carriers will ding you and some won't, depending on their rating plans and your customer tier. If you have a specific question about a carrier I might be able to answer.

regnant · 3 December 2016, 07:32 PM

Sorry to see that, it can be repaired but costly . At least it happened on an aftermarket clasp. I see your point of using a strap instead of bracelet.
Gold thing is that you're OK, it's just a watch afterall

Gerry62 · 3 December 2016, 08:31 PM

I use a leather and also the NATO ....... I am worried!!??!!

mtgjr · 3 December 2016, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by traf

The irony here is that most people use natos as the most secure strap for diving etc to prevent spring bar failure. Seems like the weakest link came from a less obvious spot

Sorry to hear, and I hope you get out of it for less than $1500... service cost on the chronos are more than just a 3 hander.

Did you put it back on the bracelet before sending it in for service? Or head only?

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Originally Posted by GB-man

That's a James Bond color scheme NATO from the most respected maker there is. It is a perfectly classic look you just don't know it...yet

Ok so maybe not meant for a Daytona but still.

Bummer my friend. I'm sure it will be back on the wrist in short order.

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Originally Posted by 2th_doc

James Bond nato.....James Bond is too smooth for that to happen to him though..... But sorry to see that. An unexpected ~$1500 expense around Christmas time sucks pretty bad.

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Sorry to see that. I'm surprised we don't see broken nato buckles more often, they do seem very flimsy.

People like to talk about how a nato will save your watch if a springbar fails, yet every broken or dislodged springbar shown on the forums seems to have been caused by a nato. The fact that the watch is still dangling on the remaining springbar is somehow seen as the nato's selling point.

I've never seen a photo here of a springbar failure while the watch was on its steel bracelet.

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Originally Posted by bdex75

Sucks. At least you were planning on a service soon anyhow. I bet this will be closer to $1100 when it is all said and done. I wear a lot of my watches on NATO's, but cheap NATO straps are usually cheap in the clasp department and that is hard to weed out looking at them on the inter web. A NATO with a good clasp and good spring bars is as secure as any other bracelet or combination, maybe more secure as you could have a spring bar failure and still not lose the watch. When you get it back it would look great on a Eulit Palma gray nato!!! Or will a black NATO off of a Tudor fit on a Daytona??

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Originally Posted by Sublover2166

Agree: Service will be at least 1K or a bit more depending on water and shrapnel damage.

Disagree: A Daytona does NOT belong on a NATO. The Oyster bracelet is a thing of beauty and simple perfection. Why try to reinvent the wheel?

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Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

The funny thing - what kind of strap does a milsub wear? Not the perfect, unbreakable, amazing, oyster - a crappy NATO.

The OP should just buy NATOs with good hardware. They exist.

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Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Hi!

It's called a ZULU strap.

https://countycomm.com/collections/w...l-series-bands

It lacks the extra "flap" of a NATO.

They wear differently.

It's not a Nato or a Zulu. It's just a nylon strap by Maratac.

Mlgatl · 3 December 2016, 10:56 PM

I would like to counter all of the negative comments about the strap. I think the Daytona looked great on the strap.

lightspire · 4 December 2016, 12:59 AM

I agree - wear it how you like it - and thank you for you for sharing! Straps are an enjoyable part of personalizing a watch and fabric straps are a huge trend in watches. Hey bracelet police: Tudor (aka Rolex) have been including custom made fabric straps with their bracelets for years: https://www.tudorwatch.com/magazine/...e-fabric-strap

It's sad to see the result of a poorly designed product - I would contact Maratac and link to this thread. They should be aware of their product failure and the 'impact' (no pun intended) it had on your watch and is having on their reputation in the watch community.

Wahlberg · 4 December 2016, 01:20 AM

To each his own obviously. I'm not a fan of daytona's or speedmasters on a nato strap, just doesn't look right.

Ar_Mi · 4 December 2016, 02:31 AM

If water got in and you end up needing full service and replacement of parts I think its going to cost more than 400... I hope im wrong

PTruong · 4 December 2016, 04:08 AM

scranger · 4 December 2016, 04:46 AM

Oh, the humanity!

Verdi · 4 December 2016, 04:59 AM

Speaking from experience, the 400$ does not make sense.

Option 1: the dial is not scratched and no glass went into the movement, you get away with 200$, crystal replacement.

Option 2: crystal plus service, around 1k$

Option 3: crystal plus dial, around 1k$

Option 4: crystal, dial and service, around 1700$

Good that you hacked it. Also, it would have been good to keep the watch face down, all the time until the watch is opened and the movement removed.

PS: there is a good reason why Rolex oyster bracelet are so expensive. They are also very good and famous for keeping the watch around the wrist!

bigsmall · 4 December 2016, 05:49 AM

You can be happy that it is only a scratch (in Rolex's dimensions - come on, it is a race driver's instrument!). At least they probably can fix it.

mtgjr · 4 December 2016, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wahlberg

To each his own obviously. I'm not a fan of daytona's or speedmasters on a nato strap, just doesn't look right.

It wasn't a Nato strap.

mtgjr · 4 December 2016, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ar_Mi

If water got in and you end up needing full service and replacement of parts I think its going to cost more than 400... I hope im wrong

That's interesting. I don't think anyone else has mentioned that yet.

jban5 · 4 December 2016, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Something more like this:
https://www.toxicnatos.com/products/...nt=11006095105

+1 I just got my first and the hardware is substantially heftier. I got an all blue which looks awesome on my 1675. Even though I'm in the US, I don't like the idea of regimental color/patterns and usually go for solid colors although I have one "Bond" that is often on my 5513.

Marathon makes great springbars and I buy a bunch of them at a time. As soon as any wear shows itself on them I ditch them and replace with fresh.

My sincerest condolences on the OP's Daytona. Someday I'd like to have one and would hate to think of that happening to it.

One final thought and that is would the same amount of pulling pressure have popped a bracelet off?

BLACKHORSE 6 · 4 December 2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jban5

+1 I just got my first and the hardware is substantially heftier. I got an all blue which looks awesome on my 1675. Even though I'm in the US, I don't like the idea of regimental color/patterns and usually go for solid colors although I have one "Bond" that is often on my 5513.

Marathon makes great springbars and I buy a bunch of them at a time. As soon as any wear shows itself on them I ditch them and replace with fresh.

My sincerest condolences on the OP's Daytona. Someday I'd like to have one and would hate to think of that happening to it.

One final thought and that is would the same amount of pulling pressure have popped a bracelet off?

Don't think that it would've popped the bracelet off. Took a pretty good tug to get it off my wrist, but it wouldn't have been enough to cause one of the pins or bracelet to fail.

Ar_Mi · 6 December 2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mtgjr

That's interesting. I don't think anyone else has mentioned that yet.

lol what u thought i was going to sit and read all the comments ? good luck on ur watch mr sarcasm

3 December 2016, 08:45 AM	#97
TitanCi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: California Posts: 555	Broken Daytona! The horror! The horror! People should remember that changing to a strap like this calls for thicker spring bars too. Obviously not the case here, as the head is still attached to strap.

3 December 2016, 07:32 PM	#105
regnant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Close to Rolex AD Posts: 3,474	Sorry to see that, it can be repaired but costly . At least it happened on an aftermarket clasp. I see your point of using a strap instead of bracelet. Gold thing is that you're OK, it's just a watch afterall __________________

4 December 2016, 04:59 AM	#114
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	Speaking from experience, the 400$ does not make sense. Option 1: the dial is not scratched and no glass went into the movement, you get away with 200$, crystal replacement. Option 2: crystal plus service, around 1k$ Option 3: crystal plus dial, around 1k$ Option 4: crystal, dial and service, around 1700$ Good that you hacked it. Also, it would have been good to keep the watch face down, all the time until the watch is opened and the movement removed. PS: there is a good reason why Rolex oyster bracelet are so expensive. They are also very good and famous for keeping the watch around the wrist! __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

3 December 2016, 05:35 AM	#92
ilovewatchestoo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: 114060 Posts: 425	Sucks I'm sorry for your loss. Perhaps the "cheap and flimsy" strap should be retired or burned.

3 December 2016, 06:23 AM	#94
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,653	Wow that sucks full service for sure

3 December 2016, 06:31 AM	#95
southcarolina1801 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Peach State Posts: 735	Let this be a lesson for people to stop putting $10k watches on $5 straps.

3 December 2016, 10:08 AM	#102
Yogi20 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Carl Location: Nottingham Watch: Bi metal Sub Blue Posts: 222	Bad news but you will get a stunning watch back, send the original strap back with it so you get that polished up too

3 December 2016, 11:11 AM	#103
TickTockChuck "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Chuck Location: Canada Watch: Rolex 116610LV Posts: 2,270	Sorry to hear of your mishap and damaged Daytona. With the chance that water got inside I'm guessing a full service plus cost of the crystal replacement. I understand about flying under the radar depending on your travels. Maybe there are more secure casual straps on the market? Otherwise perhaps just remove & pocket it temporarily if you anticipate vigorous activity. Again, sorry to hear of your mishap.

3 December 2016, 08:31 PM	#106
Gerry62 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Italy EU Watch: Rolex Panerai Posts: 7,502	I use a leather and also the NATO ....... I am worried!!??!!

3 December 2016, 10:56 PM	#108
Mlgatl "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Thanos II Location: Georgia Posts: 97	I would like to counter all of the negative comments about the strap. I think the Daytona looked great on the strap.

4 December 2016, 12:59 AM	#109
lightspire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 119	I agree - wear it how you like it - and thank you for you for sharing! Straps are an enjoyable part of personalizing a watch and fabric straps are a huge trend in watches. Hey bracelet police: Tudor (aka Rolex) have been including custom made fabric straps with their bracelets for years: https://www.tudorwatch.com/magazine/...e-fabric-strap It's sad to see the result of a poorly designed product - I would contact Maratac and link to this thread. They should be aware of their product failure and the 'impact' (no pun intended) it had on your watch and is having on their reputation in the watch community.

4 December 2016, 01:20 AM	#110
Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,590	To each his own obviously. I'm not a fan of daytona's or speedmasters on a nato strap, just doesn't look right.

4 December 2016, 02:31 AM	#111
Ar_Mi "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Dubai/Los Angeles Watch: a few Posts: 595	If water got in and you end up needing full service and replacement of parts I think its going to cost more than 400... I hope im wrong

4 December 2016, 04:08 AM	#112
PTruong "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Peter Location: Arcadia, Cali Watch: 114060 & 116520 Posts: 673

4 December 2016, 04:46 AM	#113
scranger "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Fred Location: Columbia, SC Watch: GMTII, DD, Daytona Posts: 249	Oh, the humanity!

4 December 2016, 05:49 AM	#115
bigsmall "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: unsure Posts: 124	You can be happy that it is only a scratch (in Rolex's dimensions - come on, it is a race driver's instrument!). At least they probably can fix it.

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