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Old 22 December 2016, 01:41 PM   #1
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Microsoft is Now More Innovative than Apple

Interesting article.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/people...164913486.html

On Wednesday, Microsoft held an event in which it showed off a whole bunch of 3D software baked into Windows 10, a new Surface PC that competes with the iMac and an interesting new device for the Surface line of PCs called the SurfaceDial.
This is a dial device that you use in addition to a mouse, a digital pen and a touchscreen. It lets you manipulate the images on your screen, so you can do things like bring up new color palettes, adjust volume and screen brightness, or even scroll through a big document.
Now add in Microsoft HoloLens, its augmented reality device that costs about $3000 (with other new VR accessories starting at $300), and all the cloud-based artificial intelligence (AI) services Microsoft is offering developers, and you've got a company that is truly impressing people with a new wave of innovation.
Contrast this with the company previously known as the monarch of innovation: Apple. Apple is the company that brought us the iPod, the iPhone, the tablet, the first verbal digital assistant, Siri. On Tuesday, after reporting its first decline in revenue since 2001, with shrinking shipments across all products, an analyst asked Tim Cook the unthinkable question: Was the company now just a follower of other's innovations? (Cook was none too pleased with the question, or the implication.)
None of this was lost on people watching Microsoft's event. One thing people tweeted over and over again during the event: Microsoft is now officially more innovative than Apple.
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Old 22 December 2016, 01:48 PM   #2
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i am a long time apple fan and microsoft hater but agree with this article

recently microsoft is becoming the new apple and apple is becoming what microsoft was
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Old 22 December 2016, 02:32 PM   #3
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Interesting stuff, I love it when these large companies battle. The next few years should be entertaining. Thanks for sharing that article by the way
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Old 22 December 2016, 02:50 PM   #4
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Interesting stuff, I love it when these large companies battle. The next few years should be entertaining. Thanks for sharing that article by the way
You're welcome; FWIW, I was just watching the movie Steve Jobs today. It makes this a bit sad.
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Old 22 December 2016, 04:25 PM   #5
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Sad, indeed. That's ok though, the cycle will likely continue and Apple will one day breathe new life into already existing products as they once did. I'm sure they're working hard on some stuff to rival Microsoft's new innovations.
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Old 22 December 2016, 05:33 PM   #6
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i am a long time apple fan and microsoft hater but agree with this article

recently microsoft is becoming the new apple and apple is becoming what microsoft was
Which is very disturbing. I guess it shows once you get large enough it's all about the Benjamins.
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Old 22 December 2016, 05:58 PM   #7
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This video just blows me away; seeing the actual platform in the store made me want it even more.

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Old 22 December 2016, 07:05 PM   #8
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It's gonna be downhill for a minute over at Cupertino. Samsung unfortunately blew their chance with the Note 7 fiasco.

You can't keep hyping next gen products and then deliver nothing. After IPhone 6 it's been stale.
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Old 22 December 2016, 07:40 PM   #9
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Microsoft have been on this shift since Satya took over, he has moved Microsoft away from the pure enterprise space that it inhabited and massive revenue streams from windows (changing market).

Its going to be an interesting to see what the next number of years bring
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Old 22 December 2016, 08:30 PM   #10
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Didn't read the article but I hope Microsoft addresses the windows 10 issues that were supposed to hide the windows 7 and 8 issues. I am not a computer engineer but things are getting messy with these OS's. Windows 10 is great until your web browsers crash out of nowhere and are impossible to reinstall without losing speed.
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Old 22 December 2016, 10:39 PM   #11
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Didn't read the article but I hope Microsoft addresses the windows 10 issues that were supposed to hide the windows 7 and 8 issues. I am not a computer engineer but things are getting messy with these OS's. Windows 10 is great until your web browsers crash out of nowhere and are impossible to reinstall without losing speed.
I've had few to no problems.
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Old 22 December 2016, 10:54 PM   #12
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I just don't think I could go back to Microsoft. Too many years of frustration.

I just hope Apple up their game with some serious innovation. At the minute there are no products that excite me and Apple is almost pricing themselves out of the market with the latest round of UK price hikes.
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Old 22 December 2016, 11:14 PM   #13
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They haven't done anything for 20 years, so time to catch up.

Oh and that pathetic (IMHO) operating system know as Windows is far from innovative.

You can have amazing products, but the OS is key--and Windows is not anywhere close to Apple in that dept.
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Old 22 December 2016, 11:22 PM   #14
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ive said this before but apple doenst need to be a big innovator at this point and it shows. all they need to do is keep it consistently good. tim cook is not an innovator, he is an effective manager.
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That's all good if you like Windows. I don't.
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That's all good if you like Windows. I don't.
Not good necessarily; the what is.
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i am a long time apple fan and microsoft hater but agree with this article

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You're welcome; FWIW, I was just watching the movie Steve Jobs today. It makes this a bit sad.
this happened previously and it all changed when they brought steve jobs back.

now that this is not possible i don't know what they are going to do.

the surface video really interests me as a designer.
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this happened previously and it all changed when they brought steve jobs back.

now that this is not possible i don't know what they are going to do.

the surface video really interests me as a designer.
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...e-jobs-2016-12

Apple is losing its focus again — and this time, there's no Steve Jobs coming to the rescue
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Elaborate please? I actually am interested in your view point ..

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The problem that I have with Microsoft is the UI. Compared to OSX, it falls short. Maybe OSX doesn't have all of the bells and whistles, but it has cohesion, and to me, that is paramount.
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What Steve J brought to Apple is what Steve B screwed up at MS. It's not innovation for innovation's sake - it's the insight. Insight into what the world would want if they only knew they needed it - that plus insanely great things you MUST have.

I'm happy for any company that can fill that insight void we've experienced.
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MSFT is on a tear recently. I have a few friends that have switched from iPads to the Surface, especially for work. A friend had the Windows phone, I thought it was really innovative and the "tiles" concept was awesome.

I've been die hard AAPL for years, but they're losing their lead. I was hopeful after the Mac Pro, but there was no follow up to it.
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The problem that I have with Microsoft is the UI. Compared to OSX, it falls short. Maybe OSX doesn't have all of the bells and whistles, but it has cohesion, and to me, that is paramount.
I've been using the Tablet Mode interface on Windows 8 and 10 for years and really enjoy it since I use touch screen computers for my own use. For a while I did tech support for Apple and really found their system annoying (at least to me). At work we recently (a year ago) upgraded to Win 7 which I don't like near as much.
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