Can You remember a time when Rolex admitted a mistake?

[Seaotter]

Originally Posted by albmich

Can u explain this diagram a bit more? Ie where you got it and what it means?

Upgrade movement 3255
Replacing by next service or complaints.
I will not do it (for my Day-Date).
I think it's a small problem automatically become dissolved after next service interval.
And it does not hurt the watch movement.

This diagram is for Rolex watchmakers.
This problem is only for the very, very first 3255 movements, not for 3235 !

Diagram for Omega 8500: (as an example)

[BJHofkin]

Depends on what you mean by "admit."

If the lug width on the new Sea Dweller is indeed 22mm as Alpino has confirmed from the bracelet code, that is an "admission" of sorts that Rolex made a mistake giving the DSSD only a 21mm lug width.

Similarly, the replacement relatively soon after their introduction of the DDII and DJII with the DD40 and DJ41, respectively, is an admission that the formers' size/proportions were a "mistake" of sorts.

[Andad]

What that means is you can't put your 21mm DSSD bracelet on your new SD.

No mistake made there.

[jagwap]

I've always suspected the explorer was using up over stock of the older model, and once they'd done that they relaunched with the right size.

A bit of a cheap move if so, but just speculation. I'm sure the fanboys will object.

[VICI]

Going from 41 to 40 on the day dates.

Although I prefer my 41

[diverdoug]

When they make one perhaps they will!

[Ryvil]

The Roman numeral they use for 4 o'clock has always irked me.

[BJHofkin]

My point is that if 21mm is too small a lug width for the new SD, all the more so it's too small for the DSSD. Rolex's decision to set the lug width at 22mm for the former is a tacit admission that they messed up with the latter.

Originally Posted by directioneng

What that means is you can't put your 21mm DSSD bracelet on your new SD.

No mistake made there.

[Investr]

No mistakes as of yet....

[GerardoG]

These are not 'mistakes'. Last year, during our Houston GTG (https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=485902 ...I honestly suggest you make some time to join us during these events, we learn a LOT) we had people from Rolex with us. A few days before the event, I asked TRF to share their questions, which I asked during our breakfast (most of which were answered); and I learned the following: Rolex, as any company, is evolving constantly. Unlike other watch companies, their evolution is on the inside; this is why a) their movements are tried, tested and reliable -and a pleasure to work on- and b) external changes take a long time to happen.

As an example, when they switched to ceramic on the 2T submariner, they introduced a flat colored dial. It was not a mistake, it was something they thought would make a nice change. Design-wise, it looked beautiful but sales dropped on that model. A LOT. This is why they went back to sunburst.

Some might consider this a mistake...some a 'casualty of war'; in the end, they do make changes and show -based on what we see at Basel- that they listen one way or another to the market.

During our GTGs with both Rolex and Tudor staff; they have confirmed: they DO read forums. Changes take place based on sales. If we do not like a model, but it is selling like ice on a warm summer day; I doubt there will be a change.

In the end, this is why I like them. Tried and tested. Reliable. Timeless designs. I can look at a third generation DateJust inherited to my son and it looks beautiful. Classic. Timeless.

[Tony-GB]

Don't ask this question on an AP forum. The thread will never end!