Edge dressing for Trickers Brogues???

[Speed]

Posting here because I am too lazy to join the style forum...and I know there are some shoe guys here!

Every shoe shine I have ever received ends with the boot black dipping a tooth brush or using a fuzzy applicator to rub a watery black dressing around the edges of my (usually) black lowers.

Recently bought these Acorn Trickers. When I asked their customer service no one could tell me what product I should use on the burgundy/ reddish brown lowers save for brown shoe polish. Does not compute...

Any recommendations?

Thanks

[GB-man]

Nice shoes! I just picked up my first pair of trickers last fall. Stowe country boots in burgundy.

Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for your question. Hopefully The Godfather of fly shoes, Dan (DDDrees) checks in

[Wesley Crusher]

Man, I sure wish there was a shoe thread on TRF.

[MonBK]

Send them to ATSC.

[GradyPhilpott]

What about these?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009RSYOQ2...a-319826067245

https://www.amazon.com/Fiebings-Dura...Edges+burgundy

[locutus49]

Wesley Crusher should have a good opinion.

[rr-nyc]

Take them to a reputable show repair and they will match the color

[Speed]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

What about these?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009RSYOQ2...a-319826067245

https://www.amazon.com/Fiebings-Dura...Edges+burgundy

Thanks Grady. Those might match...I just thought a Trickers would have produced such a product - like they do for a matching polish.

I had a tough time even getting them to acknowledge the concept of touching up the lowers.

[GradyPhilpott]

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[Speed]

Originally Posted by rr-nyc

Take them to a reputable show repair and they will match the color

True...I've just gotten interested in polishing my own shoes.

[Wesley Crusher]

I clean my shoes every week. As a part of the process, I wipe down the sole edges with a damp cloth and then apply some Bick4, but any leather lotion/conditioner should work.

I do this on my leather sole shoes and leather/rubber combo (Dainite). The Bick4 leaves the edges with a natural sheen. Some neutral wax polish can also work.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I clean my shoes every week. As a part of the process, I wipe down the sole edges with a damp cloth and then apply some Bick4, but any leather lotion/conditioner should work.

I do this on my leather sole shoes and leather/rubber combo (Dainite). The Bick4 leaves the edges with a natural sheen. Some neutral wax polish can also work.

Thank you!

Would you recommend Bick4 for these Brogues?

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by Speed

True...I've just gotten interested in polishing my own shoes.

I do the same

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Speed

Thank you!

Would you recommend Bick4 for these Brogues?

Absolutely. I'd recommend the product for most leathers, actually. I use Bick4 on my calf and cordovan shoes (uppers and sole edges).

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Speed

Thank you!

Would you recommend Bick4 for these Brogues?

I apply Bick4 on everything from my least inexpensive to my most expensive shoes I own. It works great and in fact it also reduces water spots on my Edward Green shoes.


As far as edge dressing I don't own anything with that particular color, however I do find that applying a bit of wax polish and water on the edge helps to protect the edge dressing underneath. Not that much different than protecting the rest of the shoe with polish really.

[daveathall]

First off, congratulations, those shoes look stunning, I really like the colours. I can see why you are frustrated, it would me as well, if one buys an expensive pair of shoes it is natural that the company would produce a product to help on the upkeep of the shoes. I would wipe them down with a damp cloth to remove any mud etc and use a good quality neutral wax polish if there were no scuffs, I would also buy a tin of polish as close to the colour of the bottom edges in as close a match as I could find just in case you do scuff them..

I bought a pair of black Trickers (Keswick) about 8 years ago, they were my first pair of "good" shoes, they have not let me down and look as good now (if not better) than when I first got them, admittedly, being black, they will be easier to look after than yours, but, once yours have broken in and have taken polish they will have a character all of their own and look absolutely fabulous.

Great choice, you might just have cost me some more money.

[Speed]

Thanks to all for the info / comments.

Perhaps I was making too much of this edge business...but finally venturing away from black edge soles - and uppers for the most part - led to these questions.

I'll give Bick4 a try.

These are my first pair of Trickers. Church's and Alden's (Shell Cordovan) are also in rotation.

[KDS777]

That's a lovely shoe !!

The color shade is sweet......like the leather interior in a Ferrari.

Guess the next step up is bespoke shoes. Wonder what that costs ?

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by KDS777

That's a lovely shoe !!

The color shade is sweet......like the leather interior in a Ferrari.

Guess the next step up is bespoke shoes. Wonder what that costs ?

Hardly, with all respect Trickers are more middle tier level maybe if that when it comes to cost. But when it comes to bespoke the sky is the limit especially when it comes to that first pair.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Hardly, with all respect Trickers are more middle tier level maybe if that when it comes to cost. But when it comes to bespoke the sky is the limit especially when it comes to that first pair.

I would agree. Trickers are nice...not as nice as Alden's perhaps - or Church's IMO.

Bespoke is a whole new ballgame - entirely. A pair of shoes might cost as much as a nice Rolex...model dependent of course.

[KDS777]

Well the reason I asked was because Trickers had a link to bespoke shoes on their site.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Speed

I would agree. Trickers are nice...not as nice as Alden's perhaps - or Church's IMO.

Bespoke is a whole new ballgame - entirely. A pair of shoes might cost as much as a nice Rolex...model dependent of course.

Actually it could very easily be even more. The first pair is always more expensive because it's that first pair that the shoemaker has to go to the trouble of creating your Last. Cost depends a lot on which shoemaker it is, whether it's your first or subsequent shoe, and of course the leather you've chosen to go with. Alligator for example can really up the ante.


It's been awhile but I doubt there's much separation between Trickers and Alden. However when it comes to upper tier John Lobb, St Crispins, Edward Green and Gaziano and Girling are the ones I have the most experience with. Mid Tier wise it's Vass and Crockett and Jones. Alden and Trickers really fall below these two

[KDS777]

Thanks for the info. While I have a closet full of bespoke suits and dress shirts judging from pricing suggested here I think I'll be very happy with out of the box shoes.

Rather have another watch.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Actually it could very easily be even more. The first pair is always more expensive because it's that first pair that the shoemaker has to go to the trouble of creating your Last. Cost depends a lot on which shoemaker it is, whether it's your first or subsequent shoe, and of course the leather you've chosen to go with. Alligator for example can really up the ante.


It's been awhile but I doubt there's much separation between Trickers and Alden. However when it comes to upper tier John Lobb, St Crispins, Edward Green and Gaziano and Girling are the ones I have the most experience with. Mid Tier wise it's Vass and Crockett and Jones. Alden and Trickers really fall below these two

Thanks for the expert opinions. I have more to learn re: shoe hierarchy...I do know about the creating an initial last having watched an online bit about John Lobb. Quite a process!

What would you say are the most discernible differences in quality between say Alden and John Lobb ( non-bespoke)?

[TheBluePrince]

Damn, talk about random.

I got back to the UK, Northampton, to see my folks this week for a holiday, 2 hours ago driving past Trickers factory after taking my Mum out she asked are Trickers even in business still, lol.

For your shoes I would recommend a wax polish the same shade or slightly darker than the lowers/sole. Rub in/apply lightly and leave for an hour then buff at alternate angles. The lowers will get scuffed and patinered more, taking a breath and accepting the stitching on them will too is generally healthier in the long run too, lol.

[TheBluePrince]

Originally Posted by Speed

Thanks for the expert opinions. I have more to learn re: shoe hierarchy...I do know about the creating an initial last having watched an online bit about John Lobb. Quite a process!

What would you say are the most discernible differences in quality between say Alden and John Lobb ( non-bespoke)?

The John Lobb who will create an initial last for you are the John Lobb in St James/Piccadilly, true best in the world shoes.

The John Lobb in Northampton manufacture their shoes under licence and are owned by Hermes but operate very independently. They're probably the best or there abouts off the shelf shoes imo. You (I) can spend 20 min inspecting a pair of seconds but never find the reason why. Compared to Alden they are superior in most aspects....material, stitching, finishing, polishing, consistency of sizing especially stands out.

But...you can and will wear your Aldens out most days to most places ;)

[Speed]

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

But...you can and will wear your Aldens out most days to most places ;)

Oh thank god!

[dddrees]

Just remember one thing when it comes to shoe care "Less is more when it comes to shoe care." Use as needed but do not over use any product on your shoes. Your two best friends are the shoe brush and the shoe trees and a damp cloth when necessary. I use the brush much more often than applying any product on my shoes.

Frankly I would highly recommend using both wax and cream. I use wax on only those areas less susceptible to creasing such as the heel and the toe. This then promotes less chance of the leather cracking. I use cream then on the rest of the shoe. Do keep in mind that cream pigment has more chance to soak into the leather. Anyway the high shine that wax generally can yield really is only necessary on the toe and heel anyway.

Basically I use colored polish only when necessary. I use Bick4 almost as often and neutral cream does work well to provide a bit of gloss when needed because as I said colored cream will leave more pigment behind. I sort of reserve using colored cream when the shoe is either getting a bit on the light side or when I need to repair a scuff. I use Bick4 when conditioning is needed and often don't apply any polish afterwards.

Neutral wax on the on the other hand has a tendency to flake and white flaking doesn't look good. However neutral wax if used sparingly can provide a depth to the high shine you just can't get otherwise. Plain Black is about the BEST when it comes to a mirror shine, but just a tad of neutral adds that depth.

Brush Brush Brush and place those shoe trees in when not being worn. Sometimes I’ll let my shoes air out a bit and at times over night but in go the shoe trees. Oh and after airing out and brushed in they go into their shoe bags. Really keeping dust off one’s shoes is a real good thing as well.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Speed

Oh thank god!

And I was going to try and hook you on some Gaziano & Girlings or Edward Greens. LOL

[Speed]

Originally Posted by dddrees

And I was going to try and hook you on some Gaziano & Girlings or Edward Greens. LOL

Bring em on Dan. I'm keen to learn.

I'm getting my Masters in Shoeology here in this thread!