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Old 21 September 2017, 05:07 AM   #1
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Tudor fake or not?

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Would somebody be able to advise if this watch it fake or real. I have no clue on tudor watches but guessing somebody who knows them would be able to tell.


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Old 21 September 2017, 05:57 AM   #2
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Looks legit but I'm no expert
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Old 21 September 2017, 06:02 AM   #3
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Can't say I'm at all familiar with the model but it looks ok to me? Someone with the knowledge will be along shortly.
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Old 21 September 2017, 06:04 AM   #4
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How much is a watch like that valued?
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Old 21 September 2017, 06:14 AM   #5
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How much is a watch like that valued?
Hard to say. It's not a popular model like a Tudor Sub or Snowflake. How much someone wants it and is prepared to pay. Is it even running ok?
Appraisals aren't allowed on the boards btw

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Old 21 September 2017, 06:23 AM   #6
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Been to see it and it runs fine, just wanting people opinions if it is real or a fake or what.
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Old 21 September 2017, 06:40 AM   #7
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It looks fine but not sure. Take it to your local AD.
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Old 21 September 2017, 07:39 AM   #8
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What do people think of this one too?, torn between both as i want a vintage tudor watch.

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Old 21 September 2017, 07:44 AM   #9
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Old 21 September 2017, 08:45 AM   #10
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Both fine, mid 1940s with calibre 59 movements. Neither is oyster-cased so not worth very much.
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Old 21 September 2017, 10:44 AM   #11
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Both fine, mid 1940s with calibre 59 movements. Neither is oyster-cased so not worth very much.
The first watch posted has an unmarked 59. It may not be the original movement to that case IMHO
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Old 21 September 2017, 04:48 PM   #12
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What do you mean by the case? What does a real oyster case look like? So these are real just not 100% one watch?
What sort of price would people be wanting to pay on these? Dont want to pay over the top.

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Old 21 September 2017, 05:08 PM   #13
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The case is the main body of the watch. An Oyster case is a kind of waterproof case made by Rolex for most of its watches, and used by Tudor also. Yours is not one of them. Otherwise it would say "oyster" on the dial. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not an Oyster, so less collectible.

I'd look for a Tudor 4453 instead if I were you. Like this...
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Old 21 September 2017, 07:14 PM   #14
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thanks for update. Are the ones i posted fake then? or just not tudor oyster. What actually are they if real?. So much naff info on net regarding fake/real tudors and rolexs.

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Old 21 September 2017, 07:37 PM   #15
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thanks for update. Are the ones i posted fake then? or just not tudor oyster. What actually are they if real?. So much naff info on net regarding fake/real tudors and rolexs.

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Like I said, there is nothing wrong with the ones you posted in my opinion. I'm not going to give you any valuations, but I wouldn't spend more than $250 on either watch that you have shown.
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Old 21 September 2017, 09:01 PM   #16
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thank you. I just read the post regarding valuations. Didnt know that when posted. I think i will actually look for the one you posted. Looks nicer.

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Old 23 September 2017, 12:05 AM   #17
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Oyster casing is iconic and worth the extra... does a great job of keeping the elements out, maximising the durability of your timepiece.

Anything non-Oyster, too fragile for my lifestyle. They don't get worn as dailys :(
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James' Tudor watch is absolutely fine and original. Little bit rarer being centre seconds as most cushion cased non-Oysters had the subsidiary seconds dial.

Not valuable, but sweet!

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