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19 October 2017, 06:29 AM | #1 |
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Warning Scam Buyer from Canada
Recently listed my 16550 for sale and within a day or so received and email from [email protected] asking a variety of questions, email was sent at 145AM. The "buyer" name was Nehr Sep and he wanted it shipping to Toronto with a low customs declaration. Over the next couple days we slowly traded emails and he agreed to buy the watch as full price and cover shipping. He started texting me and we discussed watches etc, he told me about his quite impressive collection and comes across as pretty watch savvy.
Monday morning comes and he says we will wire the money after lunch and if possible can I ship so he has the watch Tuesday, supposedly flying to Japan on weds. I say sure soon as the money hits my account. He sends me a text of the images showing the alleged transfer. As the afternoon rolls on still no payment and he begins pressuring and asking me to ship the watch even though money hasn't hit my account. He questions the trust relationship etc. finally he threatens to have his "friends" visit me if I try to screw him. I say all ship first thing Tuesday if the funds hit. Next morning no money, I text him at 730am and let him know and also suggest he is a scammer. He is silent for a few hours before he begins insulting and threatening me. Says he canceled the transfer Monday night. Anyways that is he end of he story, unless I end up as front page news. Below are a sampling of the texts and images he sent. Please beware of this guy as he is very convincing and seems legit. All of his contact is below. Nehr Sep [email protected] 647-696-6638 647-696-8898 #2007 35 Canyon avenue Toronto Canada M3H 4Y2 Hope this helps someone else avoid potential disaster . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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19 October 2017, 06:30 AM | #2 |
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Forgot to mention his company name, personal name all yield no results on Google. Also check out the reviews of this apt, not very impressive given his net worth!
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19 October 2017, 06:38 AM | #3 |
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What's his user name here?
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19 October 2017, 06:40 AM | #4 |
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He said its
Whiskeywatch Watchesfromsix Neither of which I could ever find a post from, but maybe someone else knows a way to look up users Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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19 October 2017, 06:43 AM | #5 |
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19 October 2017, 06:44 AM | #6 |
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19 October 2017, 06:56 AM | #7 |
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No was an email
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19 October 2017, 07:01 AM | #8 |
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Professional scammer , that’s how he got his wealth !!!
Caveat all over the place !!!! |
19 October 2017, 07:02 AM | #9 |
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19 October 2017, 07:06 AM | #10 |
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Yes that is my next step.
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19 October 2017, 08:04 AM | #11 |
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You did the right thing, clearly a scamming A hole looking to swindle your watch without paying for it.
Also, a good chance he isn’t even in Canada. Second, and I’ve said this numerous times before, do NOT place your personal contact info in any FS listing. This just opens you up to internet trolling thieves who slither around just to trick someone out of their money or high value items. Always require contact first via PM’s, and even then, do your due diligence to ascertain whether to work with someone. A good thing you knew not to ship until funds are actually in your account! They also try using fake money orders or checks to deposit a wire. These obviously never clear, but do require 5 business days to vet, all the while the thieves are pushing hard to have you ship. A classic scam that unfortunately still many fall for....that is why the losers keep trying. Thanks for alerting the membership. Maybe someone who doesn’t know the tactic, now will!
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19 October 2017, 08:12 AM | #12 |
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That's a shopped BMO slip. A bad one at that. Fonts sizing etc.
Great work op!!!! Never ever send a watch when pressured. Ever!!!!!!! |
23 October 2017, 06:28 AM | #13 |
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Wow, sorry for your experience. This is one of my worries that this could happen to me as well.
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23 October 2017, 06:52 AM | #14 |
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The guy sounds like a real dbag
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23 October 2017, 07:30 AM | #15 |
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Interesting. I am selling a watch on ebay and a bunch of guys asked me to ship it to them with low declared value. I responded I don't ship internationally.
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24 October 2017, 12:55 PM | #16 |
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Was thinking that too.
I’d say come on down homey. |
24 October 2017, 01:02 PM | #17 |
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Sorry to hear this James! Thank you for alerting us of this character. If he is from Canada I hope he freezes to death this winter
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25 October 2017, 05:38 AM | #18 |
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lol those text messages cracked me up.
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25 October 2017, 06:22 AM | #19 |
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Good thing you didn't ship.
But, Just curious. If a shipment is made through FEDEX or UPS. The original shipper has the power to change the shipment before the item reaches destination, right? |
31 October 2017, 03:08 PM | #20 |
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This trick is used by scammers in all sales forums. Got it myself to o. They simulate a payment and ask for quick delivery before the funds drop.
Usually they get quiet and sod off quickly and head to the next victim as soon as it fails.This one wasted a lot of time with insults tho. Weird. Definitely a noob. Probably a kid. |
31 October 2017, 05:17 PM | #21 |
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Don’t mess with Texas.
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1 November 2017, 02:09 AM | #22 |
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What an a**clown.
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1 November 2017, 12:17 PM | #23 |
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I’m Canadian, Sprint Canada was bought out in 2005 by Rogers Communications so I believe he is not in Canada. That Bank of Montreal logo is old, they now use BMO Bank of Montreal. Fyi
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2 November 2017, 04:45 AM | #24 |
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That thing doesn't look happy and it appears to be in your home? Where on earth in Scottsdale do you live? I have purchased many properties in AZ over the years and never saw or heard about one inside the home. Or am I way off and that is the security that guards the watch collection?
Good work OP on putting the hammer down on the scammer. Everyone should keep their guard up at all times because it isn't going to get any better as the years go on. More and more will come to the table. |
24 November 2017, 05:41 AM | #25 |
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I think the same guy has just contacted met too. Shipping to Canada and he'd take the customs risk.
He emailed me and did not contact me through the forum. Using this email now: [email protected] Be careful peeps... |
24 November 2017, 01:47 PM | #26 |
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Claimed his forum name was 321861 which I cannot find. Also same story, recently lost 5k bla bla. He claimed being from Vancouver in this case.
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24 November 2017, 02:15 PM | #27 |
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What a charmer this fellow is! I'm glad to hear that you weren't scammed.
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24 November 2017, 02:35 PM | #28 |
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James so glad you didn't fall for it man. Great job on holding out
He reached out to me on instagram and email wanting to trade his BLNR for my 1803. He was even claiming he was going to be in NY in a few days so he could ship it from there and he would set up a PO box to ship the Daydate to. I said when I see your watch I'll ship, showed references and said this is the only way I'll do it with guys I haven't worked with before who have no reputation. He declined and I moved on as I sniffed it out His Instagram is 321861_ In talking with other guys in my local redbar community I guess he's scammed a few other people recently. Be careful out there!
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25 November 2017, 11:55 AM | #29 |
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Btw I work in fraud management. If anyone has suspicion at any point feel free to hit me up. I’m happy to help out
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