Inherited 6085 Bubbleback

[Giant Dwarf]

Hey guys,

First post and thanks for having me. I was hoping to use your guys' expertise to identify this Rolex my grandpa left me.

As far as I can tell, it's a vintage Rolex Oyster Perpetual Chronometer, Model 6085 from the 40s or 50s. It has a leather band made in Canada which I imagine isn't the original band. At the lugs at the 12 position, I can make out "6085" and below that "Modele Depose". I can't find a Serial Number, but I imagine it's on the inside of the back which I can't open. I've tried detaching the bottom to get at the serial # but I think it'll be best to take it to someone with the proper tools.

I've attached pictures if that will help.

What's the best method for authenticating and appraising the watch? Do you have any ideas yourself of it's authenticity and worth?

Thanks for the help.

-Jon

[toph]

the watch itself looks very real and looks good at that BUT it looks like the hands have either been replaced or re lumed, ( they look like the correct style hands though) Dial looks good too. Is it Gold plated.. i am not sure if these were made in Gold Goldplate or neither?

[Giant Dwarf]

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate any help.

The hands did look different, but they are consistent with a few I've found online. For example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-ROLEX-Oy...ht_9249wt_1141

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...highlight=6085

It looks like gold plate to me, but I imagine the inside of the case will tell the carat for sure. As to whether these have been made in gold plate, I've seen these in 14kt:

http://www.pawnplex.com/Watches/role..._chronomet.htm

[adam78]

It looks authentic, but the dial has been refinished in the past (and hands relumed). It has the Super Oyster crown, which dates the watch to the 1951-53 period (approximately).

[Jagatai]

The watch in the ebay link has been redialed.
The "offically certified chronometer" text is all uneven.

[adam78]

What eBay link?

[Giant Dwarf]

Originally Posted by adam78

It looks authentic, but the dial has been refinished in the past (and hands relumed). It has the Super Oyster crown, which dates the watch to the 1951-53 period (approximately).

Ah okay, thanks. Is the lack of patina going to hurt the value (whatever it is) of the watch?

Originally Posted by Jagatai

The watch in the ebay link has been redialed.
The "offically certified chronometer" text is all uneven.

On my watch or the one in the ebay link?

[adam78]

Oh, I see, Jagatai wasn't referring to your watch...but I believe the eBay watch does indeed have an original dial, despite the irregularity noted in the placement of the red "OFFICIALLY".

The dial refinish will slightly devalue your watch in comparison to a nice original example, perhaps not by much relatively speaking, as this is not really a collectible watch. The degree of patination is not in the equation, it's the originality which is.

So I suppose you are itching to sell it, then...If yours is solid gold, then of course it would be worth more than a steel example, 18K > 14K. Also, the condition of the case is a factor too, and any wear (or not) to the bezel. Your photos are not the best to determine this.

[Giant Dwarf]

Okay thanks. I am looking to sell and was hoping to get a rough estimate but I guess it's something a jeweler would be better able to do. Thanks for your help guys.

[rlajr2001]

it is 18k... I'd post a picture but tapatalk says I can't due to insufficient posts.

Have a good weekend!

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[R.W.T.]

So did Giant Dwarf become..flajr2001?

I'm a bit confused here.

[DaveDhc]

I have a 1950 6085 and I have a 1952 6098 as well as Rolex watches from 1953, 1955, and 1958. Based on my experiences and the watches I have, my guess is that the hands on your watch are not correct. I could be proven wrong, but I don't think so. This is not a lume issue. The physical hands don't match what I would expect. The other point is that the dial is particularly clean. With my watches, the lume has caused discoloration of the dial in most cases, and when it hasn't the dials do show some ageing. The dial on your watch seems too clean.

[spoilsofwar01]

Originally Posted by Giant Dwarf

Hey guys,

First post and thanks for having me. I was hoping to use your guys' expertise to identify this Rolex my grandpa left me.

As far as I can tell, it's a vintage Rolex Oyster Perpetual Chronometer, Model 6085 from the 40s or 50s. It has a leather band made in Canada which I imagine isn't the original band. At the lugs at the 12 position, I can make out "6085" and below that "Modele Depose". I can't find a Serial Number, but I imagine it's on the inside of the back which I can't open. I've tried detaching the bottom to get at the serial # but I think it'll be best to take it to someone with the proper tools.

I've attached pictures if that will help.

What's the best method for authenticating and appraising the watch? Do you have any ideas yourself of it's authenticity and worth?

Thanks for the help.

-Jon

Hi Jon, on the case inbetween the lugs that retain the strap is where you will find the model and serial number, as there's lug holes it will be a simple job to remove the pins, may be worth giving Rolex a call to see if they've ever serviced it, if possible obtain as much history from relatives an added bonus is a photo of grandpa wearing it, keep us updated... all the best "H"

[rlajr2001]

the serial number is in between the other lug.

Rolex won't touch my watch now but there is a watch store on green belt 1 service floor who will.

the reason I know it's 18k is he opened the watch and we took pictures. really nice pics too!

my dial is too clean because I had it changed in the 1990s. oh how I wish I could post pics ...

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[anthonywong]

it kind of look like my 6285!!

[R.O.L.E.X]

It is solid 9ct most likely. Possibly 10k