16710 with 3186 movement questions

[CRDMMW]

I guess the sure way would be to buy a M serial. I think all Ms came with 3186. That is if the seller wasn’t trusted.


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[Onikage]

Originally Posted by broker

So what you guys is saying is that one can buy a 3186 expII for $5k, a 16710 3185 Z for $7k, swap movements and, after that, the exp will be $4,5k and the 16710 $14k?
Rough times

x2 Ouch. Can I respect how you think and disagree with it at the same time?

[Frakis]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Sure, see posts 10, 11, 24, 29, 30, etc ... then you can search out more via Google: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=367687

Thank you Adam, cheers!

[CRDMMW]

So it seems that super minty ones that are a full set start around $14k for asking price. Otherwise people are asking around $9k for ones that show wear/polishing and may or may not come with box and papers.


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[2th_doc]

https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-16...edblack-bezel/

He has been sitting on that 16710 for quite some time. He recently took it down for a couple days but put it back on his site tonight. Although when it was previously posted it was listed for ~$15,500. Being that he has been sitting on it for quite some time he may be willing to negotiate. Let us know if you pull the trigger.

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[Watchgeek5000]

Recently purchased a v serial explorer II white dial box/papers unpolished for $5000. Sold it for $5250. They are still out there for under 6k

[CRDMMW]

Originally Posted by 2th_doc

https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-16...edblack-bezel/

He has been sitting on that 16710 for quite some time. He recently took it down for a couple days but put it back on his site tonight. Although when it was previously posted it was listed for ~$15,500. Being that he has been sitting on it for quite some time he may be willing to negotiate. Let us know if you pull the trigger.

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I’ve actually been talking to him about that one. Seems like an awful lot. I️ll let you know.


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[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I. If anything, the 3186 is more problematic than the 3185.

Interesting!

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by Watchgeek5000

Recently purchased a v serial explorer II white dial box/papers unpolished for $5000. Sold it for $5250. They are still out there for under 6k

Why did you sell it?

[Watchgeek5000]

Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

Why did you sell it?

Purchased it with the intention of selling. I've owned that watch many times in the past, it never stayed a keeper. At this point I would rather buy an older one for under $4000. There was an F serial for sale on the forum earlier for under $4000

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Sure, see posts 10, 11, 24, 29, 30, etc ... then you can search out more via Google: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=367687

Yeah, that's what I can't understand. The movement has had some teething issues, and most Rolex watches in the past are collectible based on physical differences, rather than the movements, anyways.

I'd probably rather have the 3185 version, regardless of so-called collectibility.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Yeah, that's what I can't understand. The movement has had some teething issues, and most Rolex watches in the past are collectible based on physical differences, rather than the movements, anyways.

I'd probably rather have the 3185 version, regardless of so-called collectibility.

Or get a 3186 that has had an RSC service, during which the known issue is supposedly fixed, iirc.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Or get a 3186 that has had an RSC service, during which the known issue is supposedly fixed, iirc.

Yeah, I vaguely remember a post or two about the problem repeating after service, but my memory may be failing me.

[2th_doc]

Originally Posted by CRDMMW

I’ve actually been talking to him about that one. Seems like an awful lot. I️ll let you know.


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No it doesn’t “seem” like an awful lot. It IS an awful lot. But you started this thread because thats what you wanted. And thats what they go for. You gotta pay to play. But DavidSW is probably THE best person to buy it from in terms of reputation. Buy it from Joe Schmoe for $14,000 and potentially run into a problem that he cares nothing about. Or buy it from DavidSw for $14,975 and get a potential problem taken care of because he encouraged to do so because of his “reputation.”

It could be worse than $14,975:

http://www.sdwatches.com/product/rol...710-coke-3186/

(And that 1 is a Z serial and not an M like the 1 DavidSw has.)

I say if the 3186 is really what you want then get that 1 from DavidSW. Me personally I would rather have a great condition D or Z serial. And if I had a Z serial I wouldn’t pay the 3186 premium. I’d be happy with a 3185. I actually have a D serial that I purchased from DavidSW. And I couldn’t be happier with it. (When it gets back from RSC that is.)



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[dmitrii_]

Purchased a z serial 3186 pepsi from David in 2015. Glad to see its on the up and up

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Yeah, I vaguely remember a post or two about the problem repeating after service, but my memory may be failing me.

I remember those. Time will tell as to whether it's a one time only cure. 3185 for the win until then.

[CRDMMW]

Originally Posted by 2th_doc

No it doesn’t “seem” like an awful lot. It IS an awful lot. But you started this thread because thats what you wanted. And thats what they go for. You gotta pay to play. But DavidSW is probably THE best person to buy it from in terms of reputation. Buy it from Joe Schmoe for $14,000 and potentially run into a problem that he cares nothing about. Or buy it from DavidSw for $14,975 and get a potential problem taken care of because he encouraged to do so because of his “reputation.”

It could be worse than $14,975:

http://www.sdwatches.com/product/rol...710-coke-3186/

(And that 1 is a Z serial and not an M like the 1 DavidSw has.)

I say if the 3186 is really what you want then get that 1 from DavidSW. Me personally I would rather have a great condition D or Z serial. And if I had a Z serial I wouldn’t pay the 3186 premium. I’d be happy with a 3185. I actually have a D serial that I purchased from DavidSW. And I couldn’t be happier with it. (When it gets back from RSC that is.)



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Yea I’ve purchased from him before. Couldn’t have been happier with him. Top notch. Just surprised at the price difference between a 3185 and 3186.


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[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Or get a 3186 that has had an RSC service, during which the known issue is supposedly fixed, iirc.

Thanks to you and douglas for the insight!

[Frakis]

Originally Posted by CRDMMW

Thanks for the advice!! Much appreciated and sound for sure. Strictly doing this for fun and not investment purposes. It’s a EXPENSIVE hobby. ROFL!


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Originally Posted by CRDMMW

Yea I’ve purchased from him before. Couldn’t have been happier with him. Top notch. Just surprised at the price difference between a 3185 and 3186.


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Any updates on what you decided to do OP?