joesm39

[Johno]

Any feedback for this guy as a seller???

Thanks in advance

[datboynamsays]

I just sent him money for a daytona. Havent gotten anything yet. Seems to give a lil runnaround.

[Lol-x]

That is not so good

[onkyo]

Originally Posted by datboynamsays

I just sent him money for a daytona. Havent gotten anything yet. Seems to give a lil runnaround.

did you check his references?

[BillA]

There is stuff written about him on another forum, pretty sure he is scammer

[toph]

Originally Posted by BillA

There is stuff written about him on another forum, pretty sure he is scammer

any links?

[tphan]

I hope you get your watch...

Below is an email conversation between myself and joesm39.

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Re: Fw: New Private Message at Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum
Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:42 AM
From:
This sender is DomainKeys verified
"Joes M" <[email protected]>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
[email protected]
i sold the watch and i had them to remove the posted.

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Tan Phan <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Tan Phan <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fw: New Private Message at Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:38 AM


hi Joe - I couldn't find your original post...do you know where?

any additional pictures taken and references?

Thanks.

--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Joes M <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Joes M <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fw: New Private Message at Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 4:46 PM


yes i will tale some and send them to you..

--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tan Phan <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Tan Phan <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fw: New Private Message at Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 5:57 PM


You have no other pictures beside those?

References?

--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Joes M <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Joes M <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fw: New Private Message at Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 12:05 PM


thats were the was pick up.. that way i put that pics on the forum..

--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tan Phan <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Tan Phan <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fw: New Private Message at Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 12:58 PM


Joe,

A friend point out pictures you sent was same watch posted on Bernard Watch website. Do you have any other picture of the actual watch you are selling?

And any references?

Thanks.

[datboynamsays]

Started a paypal dispute with him/her.

[toph]

scary stuff- also i thought his name was Mich?

[tphan]

Originally Posted by toph

scary stuff- also i thought his name was Mich?

He goes by Joe, at least that what he said. His banking information was also send, however he did said he wasn't the acct holder.

This individual also displayed very poor English which lead me to believed he has no association with high dollar fine watches.

FYI, the pictures in his Paul Newman Daytona post were also copied from Bernard Watch.

Google joesm39...

[HKperf]

i think i know who this guy is...I found him on timezone about 3-4 months ago on a GMT.
i asked him to take a picture with his name and current time on a note and put the watch at 6 9 and 12 o'clock. this way i can at least tell if he's got the watch.
after giving me bunch of excuses he stopped contacting me.
Man I just hate this, so many scammers out there..reference check on buyers and sellers is a must must must~!!

[tphan]

yea...this individual isn't very bright.

He sent 5 pictures

File name of the first picture was rename as joes391.jpg

However the rest were left as original:

RLX3872.JPG
RLX3872f.JPG
RLX3872r.JPG
RLX3872s.JPG

if RLX3872 was googled, lead directly to Bernard Watches website.

[ashu2289]

Even I contacted him for the 18K YG Daytona and when I tried to verify the ref.s he gave me, no body agreed or even remembered if they had any transaction with him,so that raised the red flags for me. He appears shady to me

[toph]

Originally Posted by tphan

yea...this individual isn't very bright.

He sent 5 pictures

File name of the first picture was rename as joes391.jpg

However the rest were left as original:

RLX3872.JPG
RLX3872f.JPG
RLX3872r.JPG
RLX3872s.JPG

if RLX3872 was googled, lead directly to Bernard Watches website.

good spot though

[datboynamsays]

This is the paypal address they had on file and the address I sent money to.


[email protected]

Ship From:

cassandra miles
4364 105th ave
allegan, MI 49010
United States

[toph]

Originally Posted by datboynamsays

Started a paypal dispute with him/her.

good- let us know how it goes
good luck

[Terry Newton]

He's a member on TRF and from Michigan.

Looking at his spelling and grammar is amazing.

I hope this works out for you.

If not, I believe he has cooked his goose on this forum, and others.

Bad service, and scams, tend to cause negative word-of-mouth press.

Terry Newton

[Lol-x]

This guy joesm39 has now been banned.

It's a pity there wasn't this discussion on 14 October when this thread was created.

The for sale item was removed as soon as it was brought to my attention that a photo was being shown of another seller's watch.

Anyone that uses another persons photo again will have a public message printed about their conduct in their for sale thread, whether it is a mistake or not they will receive a public rebuke.

[walds11]

He also also posted FS ads on TZ and WN. Good luck.

[stevemulholland3]

I had a couple of conversations with this guy as well.he talked about how much he hated scammers-what a crock.
he was supposed to send me some literature from his "supposed" business which never came so I
figured he was at the least not a man of his word.

[tphan]

Originally Posted by walds11

He also also posted FS ads on TZ and WN. Good luck.

and here

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=180059

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=179975

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=179686

Note: Spelling and grammar is good in those ads...lead me to believed the descriptions were copied.

and I just hit 500 posts mark...yeah!

[datboynamsays]

filed a chargeback claim with my CC as well due to my experience with PP in the past.. they seem to do a horrible job in recovering funds from the fraud seller....now its just a waiting game.

[tudorman8276]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

This guy joesm39 has now been banned.

It's a pity there wasn't this discussion on 14 October when this thread was created.

The for sale item was removed as soon as it was brought to my attention that a photo was being shown of another seller's watch.

Anyone that uses another persons photo again will have a public message printed about their conduct in their for sale thread, whether it is a mistake or not they will receive a public rebuke.

...I remember this guy from some ANTAGONISTIC posts he made on a few threads.

...it is a shame about the situation.

You should probably contact the POLICE and file a report and go from there. Do NOT wait to do this.

Stan.

[stevemulholland3]

any word on this scumbag ?did the fellow wver get his money back from paypal?

[Z-Sub]

This person likely was the same one using the name jim morris on TZ and scammed several people on that forum

[Lol-x]

The guy is now banned:

E-mail: [email protected]
IP Addresses: 64.85.144.123 64.85.147.40

This guy is deplorable.