Datejust 2: Sports watch or Dress watch?

[scarlet knight]

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[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by scarlet knight

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nice shot!

Definitely a sports watch IMO, that happens to dress up real nice

[scarlet knight]

My iPhone photography is hit or miss, but I did capture the shimmering blue face. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then

[REFZ]

It's just a watch and neither sporty or dressy IMO.

[T01]

As far as Rolex watches go, I'd say it's on the dressier side. However, it is far from a true dress watch. That's what Cellini is for.

[Mystro]

Both in my world.

[Ravager135]

I voted dress watch, but that's kind of a lie. A true dress watch should be on the smaller side, on a lizard or crocodile leather strap, and probably made of precious metal. That said, that's a very conservative definition that almost any Datejust can more or less be customized to fit (except the case material). That said, the Datejust is a dressier watch. I wore mine with a tuxedo for my wedding.

I think Rolex still considers it a sports watch because it is in the professional line as is the Day-Date.

[pinkelle21]

Both in mine...

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[meganfox17]

It's a Sports watch dressed in a Tuxedoor why don't you ask him yourself?

[HL65]

It’s a Professional model and is closer to a sports model than a dress. The only dress watch Rolex makes are Cellini’s. People here refer to DJ’s and DD’s as dress watches but clearly they are not. If you want a dress watch find a nice time only watch on a leather strap.

[Cru Jones]

An all-arounder. Neither "sport" nor "dress".

[liuk3]

Whatever you want it to be.

[Wcdhtwn]

So many variants of the DJ it's hard to pin it down. Fluted and jubilee, that's dressy no matter how hard one tries to make it sporty. Dome bezel and oyster, that's much closer to an Explorer and therefore more sporty than dressy.

I don't consider myself someone who is going to judge a person based on their watch/ outfit combination. "Hey you in the shorts and tee shirt! Take off that DJ at once and put on a Sub!" Yeah, I'm not going to do that.

[Wcdhtwn]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

I voted dress watch, but that's kind of a lie. A true dress watch should be on the smaller side, on a lizard or crocodile leather strap, and probably made of precious metal. That said, that's a very conservative definition that almost any Datejust can more or less be customized to fit (except the case material). That said, the Datejust is a dressier watch. I wore mine with a tuxedo for my wedding.

I think Rolex still considers it a sports watch because it is in the professional line as is the Day-Date.

I get what you are saying but I have a hard time saying the DD isn't a dress watch. So let me ask, would you consider a 36mm DD on leather a dress watch or still in the sports arena?

[Jmbarrack]

I personally feel it depends on the configuration.

Flutted bezel w. jubilee: Dress
Flutted w. oyster: Sports or Dress
Smooth w. jubilee: sports or dress
Smooth w. Oyster: Sport

Add diamonds or any gold other than white, and it's moving more toward dress.

[DHISTORY]

Originally Posted by Jmbarrack

I personally feel it depends on the configuration.

Flutted bezel w. jubilee: Dress
Flutted w. oyster: Sports or Dress
Smooth w. jubilee: sports or dress
Smooth w. Oyster: Sport

Add diamonds or any gold other than white, and it's moving more toward dress.

This!

[yessir69]

Both.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by HL65

It’s a Professional model and is closer to a sports model than a dress. The only dress watch Rolex makes are Cellini’s. People here refer to DJ’s and DD’s as dress watches but clearly they are not. If you want a dress watch find a nice time only watch on a leather strap.

Sports watch, imho. I'll go with the smaller DJ.

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by Wcdhtwn

I get what you are saying but I have a hard time saying the DD isn't a dress watch. So let me ask, would you consider a 36mm DD on leather a dress watch or still in the sports arena?

Yeah I would. Size, case material, leather strap; they all meet the criteria. I am not saying a steel watch or a watch over 40mm cannot be a dress watch. I think it really comes down to the case design and the presence of a strap (again preferred croc or lizard). I mean look at something like the ALS Zeitwerk. I'd call that a dress watch even though it has a complex design, is thick for Lange, and is a hair on the larger side. I think the problem with the Rolex Professional Line including the DJ and DD is that the Oyster case (while considered relatively conservative in design) is a waterproof sport design. But yes, by the criteria you gave, I'd say the DD is a dress watch (especially because of the leather strap). I do think, each reference of any brand though does need to be looked at individually.

[crazycarlitos]

Both for me

Works great with suit or jeans

[h20addict]

IMO its a good all around watch, dressed up, dressed down, it just works.

[Bruno Datejust]

I believe it depends so much on the dial. Champagne, silver, white, blue, black, green, etc. Sticks on black dial are sporty, Romans on champagne much less.The case is a tool-watch case, even the fluted bezel was born as something technical.

[nikesupremedunk]

When I feel that my dj36 is too dressy with the jubilee I throw the pcl on and it becomes more casual. Wouldn’t call it sporty though. I’d say a dj2 is also casual with the ability to be dressy.

[AK797]

Fluted Jubilee is a dressy sports watch. Smooth Oyster is pretty much a sports watch.

[Kostas]

With the fluted bezel and the romans leans more towards dress but I wear it both ways ;)

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

nice shot!

Definitely a sports watch IMO, that happens to dress up real nice

Exactly

All Rolex watches fall into this category in my opinion. Some can be dressed up more easily than others

[zjd168]

neither,

dress if I have to pick one, especially the jubilee version

[DahMan]

DJ41 TT always with jub, dressey. That’s is the essential DJ41, anything less, misses the mark, IMHO

[CRM114]

Obviously not a dress watch.

This poll really just reflects if people believe there's a definition for a dress watch. If one answers "Yes", then they don't. No big deal, it's obviously a convention not a "rule", but...

...if it's all a matter of fluid subjectivity and matter of opinion that follows a line of thinking that goes something like "it seems dressier to me than some other watches, therefore it's a dress watch", then there's really no reason to bother defining subsets of anything based on their characteristics in the first place. May as well argue that a family sedan is a "sports car" or "truck" depending on how it's driven or what it's used for. Digital watches and G-shocks can be dress watches too when casting aside the definitions that convention accepts.

It's sort of like oxymoronically adding/wearing individual flourishes and/or adornments outside what convention accepts as formal wear as one would to non-formal wear, since "formal" is defined as following a certain form. Wearing things that don't follow the form negates the formality of the entire package.