rnordby How much do you have to spend... 15 July 2018, 02:19 AM
peticks It will greatly differ from... 15 July 2018, 02:25 AM
dcash0615 Any purchase history with... 15 July 2018, 02:36 AM
lightingball2 I’d say, keep a good... 15 July 2018, 02:40 AM
benlee Yes, it varies with AD. No... 15 July 2018, 02:40 AM
watchmework How much do you have to spend... 15 July 2018, 02:44 AM
lightingball2 250k?!?!?! Wow I’d be out!... 15 July 2018, 02:50 AM
benlee Actually, for those that can... 15 July 2018, 02:53 AM
HL65 Ben my friend you’d be... 15 July 2018, 04:09 AM
CoveWatch At a couple Rolex AD’s I have... 15 July 2018, 05:05 AM
tom2517 Yeah, Daytona has an unique... 17 July 2018, 12:16 AM
watchmework They could be buying non... 15 July 2018, 04:09 AM
codecow You’d be surprised. The... 19 August 2018, 09:52 PM
ashbaug2 I'm on a waitlist at the... 16 July 2018, 01:31 AM
ttomczak The 200k mark was a number... 15 July 2018, 05:37 AM
tyler1980 well that is less annual... 15 July 2018, 05:40 AM
TeddyS I thought the Centurion card... 15 July 2018, 05:54 AM
AK797 Still easier to get than a... 15 July 2018, 06:24 AM
AmbSteve That is insane, and I think... 15 July 2018, 01:19 PM
rsnissan 31K?! You should have just... 15 July 2018, 02:57 AM
Ravager135 Varies significantly. ... 15 July 2018, 03:18 AM
Chewbacca the buy a rolex for a rolex... 15 July 2018, 03:19 AM
AK797 Grey watches from TS come... 15 July 2018, 03:22 AM
Trog My AD forgets my name the... 15 July 2018, 03:44 AM
Easy E Mine did too. I found a new... 15 July 2018, 05:11 AM
oldman2005 I think you should talk to... 15 July 2018, 03:55 AM
lightingball2 Does anyone know how these so... 15 July 2018, 04:02 AM
onethirtypanda I'm sure it depends how each... 15 July 2018, 04:35 AM
tyler1980 do they like you? IMO spend... 15 July 2018, 04:39 AM
remrk It depends on the AD and how... 15 July 2018, 04:44 AM
brandrea I love this :chuckle::clap: 15 July 2018, 05:59 AM
superdog I can relate. 15 July 2018, 06:28 AM
Fleetlord :cheers:
100% True.
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Seaswirl I didn’t spend anywhere near... 15 July 2018, 04:03 AM
TeddyS The AD in Windsor basically... 15 July 2018, 04:19 AM
incontrol It is all about your... 15 July 2018, 04:52 AM
mrblue It's ridiculous to spend time... 15 July 2018, 04:59 AM
tyler1980 How much do you have to spend... 15 July 2018, 05:03 AM
Macnavara very well said...and remember... 15 July 2018, 04:47 PM
jaySL350 the above,,,
spent an... 15 July 2018, 08:22 PM
biscotti Establishing a good... 15 July 2018, 05:10 AM
Pol1 To put you on a list here in... 15 July 2018, 05:17 AM
Nairn1980 Above all else, they just... 15 July 2018, 05:26 AM
Swiss Mad! Buying grey wont affect the... 15 July 2018, 05:01 PM
enjoythemusic Maybe a lobbyist can help you... 15 July 2018, 05:55 AM
Mousehunter It depends is always a great... 15 July 2018, 06:05 AM
Spartacus Some nice folks at the AD I... 15 July 2018, 06:50 AM
ARTISAN its all about levels , if you... 15 July 2018, 06:51 AM
SeaAndSky One only needs to spend the... 15 July 2018, 09:07 AM
Thaiguy At an AD in Thailand the... 15 July 2018, 11:03 AM
CRM114 $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 and... 15 July 2018, 11:33 AM
uniqueMR Its not about the how much... 15 July 2018, 11:53 AM
kneedeep The relationship can trump... 15 July 2018, 01:08 PM
Vivalas I think spending is part of... 15 July 2018, 05:51 PM
SilverFoxUK When people say they are... 15 July 2018, 06:20 PM
tyler1980 ive never called my AD on the... 15 July 2018, 06:26 PM
benlee It means drop by to see... 15 July 2018, 06:33 PM
superdog I call in sometimes. But only... 19 August 2018, 03:03 AM
joli160 In the end of the day going... 15 July 2018, 08:58 PM
c007 It depends on your Ad and the... 15 July 2018, 09:01 PM
Why1504 IMO it is equally important... 15 July 2018, 09:39 PM
davidrcpo I spent 61k on three watches... 15 July 2018, 09:58 PM
TeddyS I think this is a massive... 16 July 2018, 12:19 AM
peterpl This makes ZERO sense to me.... 16 July 2018, 09:32 AM
AK797 No he passed I think, as he... 16 July 2018, 08:06 PM
tom2517 Unfortunately that's how... 17 July 2018, 02:06 AM
Gimoozaabi I don't think it is important... 15 July 2018, 11:23 PM
HubbleNox Good... 16 July 2018, 12:27 AM
bmrisko It isn't about money spent,... 16 July 2018, 01:01 AM
HL65 Works for me. :agree: 16 July 2018, 08:22 PM
Robbyman I get scared of the umbers... 16 July 2018, 04:08 AM
007_Omega Forget about spending X... 16 July 2018, 04:59 AM
blown5.0 I don't think there is one... 16 July 2018, 07:47 AM
uniqueMR I agree.
All about... 16 July 2018, 08:54 AM
WJGESQ I think I'd rrathee pay the... 16 July 2018, 09:50 AM
79280_116520 Either build a really good... 16 July 2018, 10:07 AM
RHIII Rapport is the most important... 16 July 2018, 10:58 AM
D O C The AD doesn't owe you a... 16 July 2018, 11:07 AM
blacke90 Agree with below. Some SA are... 18 August 2018, 01:03 PM
City74 $17452.84. No I’m kidding.... 16 July 2018, 08:23 PM
beshannon I spend MSRP or below.
If... 16 July 2018, 09:28 PM
Mini2 My own personal experience is... 16 July 2018, 09:59 PM
VicLeChic To the OP, I intend on... 16 July 2018, 10:02 PM
lightingball2 I’m curious. Are any of TRF... 17 July 2018, 01:49 AM
FirstF80InSpace I’ve spent close to $50k in... 18 August 2018, 01:22 PM
Ichiran It's not all about total... 18 August 2018, 01:33 PM
jcdeng Bought my girl a tt YM.... 18 August 2018, 01:34 PM
Mystro Go grey market and never be... 18 August 2018, 01:34 PM
blacke90 I hear what you're saying.... 18 August 2018, 01:51 PM
Mystro New watches are sourced from... 18 August 2018, 10:01 PM
Marciano490 When developing personal... 18 August 2018, 04:22 PM
AK797 I bet ADs are sick of... 18 August 2018, 07:49 PM
unknown I've been collecting/ buying... 18 August 2018, 05:58 PM
MDon35 In London, I have a 15K... 18 August 2018, 08:02 PM
pc109 My local AD is a family... 18 August 2018, 08:52 PM
UnicoJG It really depends on your AD... 18 August 2018, 08:59 PM
mrblue Who has the time to hang... 18 August 2018, 09:30 PM
tyler1980 if its a hobby then it should... 18 August 2018, 10:23 PM
Etschell tyler some people do it and... 18 August 2018, 10:44 PM
Innocenti The simple answer to this... 18 August 2018, 09:32 PM
Etschell varies from ad to ad. but... 18 August 2018, 10:43 PM
CHJason I don't understand this... 18 August 2018, 10:48 PM
Etschell every time i walk into an ad... 18 August 2018, 11:01 PM
Gimoozaabi I felt the same in the... 19 August 2018, 05:49 AM
bhking01 Called in April for a Hulk... 19 August 2018, 01:13 AM
DoctorA I don’t know if there’s a... 19 August 2018, 01:44 AM
GB-man 50-100k 19 August 2018, 02:49 AM
lenfried29 I spent $20K in a month with... 19 August 2018, 02:57 AM
Innocenti That kinda nonsense would... 19 August 2018, 05:33 AM
dubins930 Theres a very simple formula... 19 August 2018, 05:01 AM
Wcdhtwn I spent exactly $0 at my AD... 19 August 2018, 05:08 AM
yxc145 To be honest, $31k in two... 19 August 2018, 08:32 AM
el-heffe I'm in almost exactly the... 19 August 2018, 08:47 AM
VicLeChic If they're going to use hot... 19 August 2018, 08:09 PM
Mephist You guys are all amateurs!... 19 August 2018, 08:49 PM
codecow It depends where you live. ... 19 August 2018, 09:49 PM
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18 August 2018, 01:51 PM | #1 |
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I hear what you're saying. How does DavidSW get his watch? Is he buying straight from the AD? Just curious and excuse me for being a noob.
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18 August 2018, 04:22 PM | #3 |
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When developing personal relationships just make sure you’re as cool and charming as you think, otherwise you’re just transparently annoying salespeople with chats when they could be making sales to other people.
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18 August 2018, 07:49 PM | #4 |
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I bet ADs are sick of charming, intelligent, handsome customers now, they much prefer the easy dismissal of the half-drunk, unwashed, credit-buying flipper. It's now like dating for billionaires.
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18 August 2018, 05:58 PM | #5 |
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I've been collecting/ buying since 25 years and ALWAYS got everything I wanted
(name any Rolex, Patek, Panerai, .. which seems to be hard to get) Don't think I ever missed one if I really wanted it. Some AD became friends and they know I do not sell my hard to get pieces. In several cases I don't need to order them or ask for them,they call me and ask if I'm interested. relationship, relationship and relationship .... that's all that matters. And it takes some time to convince them. an unknown clients with new money doesn't make much chance at my AD
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18 August 2018, 08:02 PM | #6 |
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In London, I have a 15K relationship with one , despite that he said usually if you buy the platinum model, you can get the SS Ceramic one.
He didn't say it in plain words but indicated something like £ 40 - £50,000 worth of spending with Rolex will get you there. |
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My local AD is a family owned-operated jewelry store. With regard to Rolex, it seems like they want to vet the customers to see if they are true end consumers or flippers. Once I established that I was a part of the community and a huge fan/collector, they offered me a Tudor GMT and BLNR with no prior purchase history. I’m sure it would take more than that to get a Rolex SS Pepsi or Daytona, but I was still surprised!
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18 August 2018, 08:59 PM | #8 |
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It really depends on your AD and all ADs vary. Sometime luck plays a big part. I’m not a fan of having to wait one year but I find it is reasonable based on the Rolex supply shortage.
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18 August 2018, 09:30 PM | #9 |
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Who has the time to hang around a jewelry store trying to make friends? The whole concept of "checking in" or bringing coffee is silly.
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18 August 2018, 10:23 PM | #10 |
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if its a hobby then it should be fun. Book collectors hang out in old book shops so i see no difference. If its a hassle then maybe find a new hobby?
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tyler some people do it and some dont. neither are right or wrong. just different methods. any time i chat with a sales person at the ad it is never with intent to earn the right to buy something. only to discuss watches and have fun.
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But, ill never understand buying online either so call me old fashioned. I have to see and feel something IRL. I had a blast last week seeing some Patek rare handcraft enamel dial watches. They are for women so clearly not for me but they were pretty cool.
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The simple answer to this should be the retail price (no more ) of the actual watch you want.
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18 August 2018, 10:43 PM | #14 |
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varies from ad to ad. but paying over list for the Daytonac was not a bad idea especially when the black dials were going for mid 15s. youd still be up on the purchase....
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18 August 2018, 10:48 PM | #15 |
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I don't understand this building a relationship thing. If I'm not going to buy that day and go in to talk with the salesperson, I'm keeping her from a customer who might buy jewelry. Wouldn't she resent me for wasting her time: she's there to sell. I wound think that would make me less popular.
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When Tudor GMT was unveiled this year I called the next day after it was announced and ordered one. Few weeks after I called and paid deposit for 116610 LV. They managed to get for me the GMT in approx 3 months and the LVc under 2 months. Few days ago when I visited they offered 114060 and 116610LN which I declined. I am afraid to ask for a Daytona or a SS BLRO as they may deliver it too quickly before my finances recover! Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk |
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19 August 2018, 01:13 AM | #18 |
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Called in April for a Hulk with an AD I had never done business. Actually my first rolex purchase, as my other was inherited. They called back in July to let me know it was in. I was out of country and very busy for the next couple of weeks. Called on Tuesday and was told they still had it for me. Asked sales lady what kept her from selling the watch. She just smiled and stated her intuition told her I would be calling back to buy the watch. She now has a customer for life, and I have the Hulk I've been considering buying for a year or so! Win, Win!!
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19 August 2018, 01:44 AM | #19 |
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I don’t know if there’s a “rule”!
I got a call for my SD43 from an AD that I spent zero dollar at and am still waiting for the white Daytona at the AD I spent over $100K in less than a year!! I would say it depends on where the AD is, what kinda customers they have and how honest they are!
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I spent $20K in a month with my AD buying two watches. When I asked when I'm going to get Daytona, he replies that I have to buy one of gold watches that he has on display
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Theres a very simple formula to combat this... AD says you have to spend x to get the new watch. If x is greater than grey market value of said watch, buy it from a trusted seller instead.
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19 August 2018, 05:08 AM | #24 |
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I spent exactly $0 at my AD before getting my SD43 in July of '17. But I'm a frequent visitor, have gotten to know all the sales people and the owner, and have referred multiple people who've purchased to them before and after getting my SD. Like and trust are the key factors. But not every AD, probably very few, operate this way.
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19 August 2018, 08:32 AM | #25 |
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To be honest, $31k in two years isn't that much. It is more than 90A guy can walk in and buy a PM watch and is already more than that. But it also depends on what watch you buy and there are other ways to improve the relationship with the dealer.
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I'm in almost exactly the same boat. I was offered a black SS Daytona about 6 months after my last purchase but was told the white would be another two years. I think that estimate is slightly inflated, but we'll see. I have a BLNR, so the BLRO isn't high on my list.
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19 August 2018, 08:09 PM | #27 |
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If they're going to use hot sports steel models as bait to sell PM, I won't fall for it.
I'm prepared to spend exactly MSRP on that very hot model I seek and not a penny more. I won't be buying other pieces to have access to the one I really desire, that's utter nonsense. If that means I won't get my BLRO steel, so be it. However, I have no reasons not to trust the word of my AD when he says 'be patient, you'll get one, we will call you". |
19 August 2018, 08:49 PM | #28 |
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You guys are all amateurs! Here we refurbish the AD's home, pay for their groceries. I mow their lawn every weekend, my wife clean their home once a week. My son, pays for the AD's son's lunch at school and does his home work. We just try to get on their good side, befriend them. Sometimes I just visit the AD's with a box of chocolate or some flowers, they love that. Other times I offer to shine their shoes. Just tell them their wish is your command. And just do what ever they ask of you. You will get that Daytona in no time
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It depends where you live. Here $30k would only put you one step above someone walking in off the street.
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