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russ86 · 24 July 2018, 12:45 AM

Hi guys, I was on the way to the bank yesterday to put some watches back, it was very sunny outside, and when I entered my underground garage to get in a car my heart sinked, the lume on every watch that was in a box was glowing, except for 16700. I tried to shine on the watches again with iPhone flashlight but pointless. It was just not working at all. Did anyone else experienced that? Did I purchase a fake? If yes I hope Chrono24 will cover me. Please help!

padi56 · 24 July 2018, 12:50 AM

Tritium dials have a half life of around 12 years so expect now your dial will have little or no lume.

zwjk · 24 July 2018, 12:50 AM

Your watch has a tritium dial. Tritium has a half life of 12.5 years so it is perfectly normal.

jaisonline · 24 July 2018, 12:51 AM

The 16700 tritium's lume wore out.
http://rolexpassionreport.com/15606/...olex-luminous/

Prior – 1953, The early age of Rolex luminous, used on their pocket watches, early oyster cases, bubble backs and radiomir Panerai’s.
1953 – 1956, When Rolex introduced the world their sports / utility / tool watch concept with radium Submariner, TOG, Explorer & GMT Master.
1957 – 1960, When Rolex lowered radiation and chanced dial printing from 1 to 2 colored print and enhanced the lacquer to a more glossy variant.
1960 – 1963, The pre ‘Transitional” period with “Exclamation” mark and due to the starting international regulation, again less radioactive luminous.
1963 – 1964, “Transitional” underline of which Rolex switched from Radium to Trtium, delivered dials are “swiss” signed but laminated with tritium.
1964 – 1967, The new generation tritium luminous got added on glossy dials, signing chanced from “Swiss” to “Swiss – T<25” & “T-Swiss-T”.
1967 – 1983, The matte dial with tritium luminous got introduced by Rolex. We see tritium signings variations like T Swiss T<25 or σ T-Swiss-T σ.
1983 – 1997, The last era of the tritium dials when the glossy dial surface came back, now the luminous was added in a added white gold surround.
1998- 2000, LumiNova was invented in 1993 and patented in 1995; Nemoto & Co. Ltd. was contracted in 1998 to provide LumiNova to Switzerland.
2000 – 2008, Super Luminova, a improved version of Luminova, a material that has the same properties as tritium but is not radioactive.
2008 – now, Chroma Light, the new blue-ish colored Super Luminova thats been in use since Rolex patented it.

dmhines · 24 July 2018, 12:58 AM

The only downside of a Vintage Rolex .. you can't see the time in the dark ... I know the feeling when I'm wearing my 1991 16713 .. :)

lee fowler · 24 July 2018, 01:20 AM

Best sell it to me if it is not working properly!

Rockrolex · 24 July 2018, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee fowler

Best sell it to me if it is not working properly!

Or just send it to me to care for.

DavidUK · 24 July 2018, 01:37 AM

No lume = a more vintage piece = more desirable!

Your heart should be lifted!

Uhtred59 · 24 July 2018, 01:59 AM

Works as the laws of physics dictate.

Oyster Al · 24 July 2018, 02:52 AM

You should be opposite of disturbed. Seems no one monkeyed with your dial in a relume attempt. (it’s all about the dial)

Beckster · 24 July 2018, 03:06 AM

I think maybe a little bit more research before you buy a watch next time? Anyways as the experts have said, nothing to worry. To be expected. In fact I’d be very worried if the opposite was true and it’s glowing!

stmoore · 24 July 2018, 03:21 AM

This can't be real.

Tools · 24 July 2018, 03:22 AM

Unless it is the very last run of 16700's that had Luminova, there are probably only a handful of these that would still glow.

I have a T serial and it has been dark for years.

IronRiceBowl · 24 July 2018, 04:08 AM

I'll pay you shipping to make sure that it isn't defective

05carbondrz · 24 July 2018, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stmoore

This can't be real.

Unfortunately it is.

24 July 2018, 12:45 AM	#1
russ86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Ross C. Location: Miami, FL. Posts: 964	Something very disturbing, Lume on my GMT 16700 not glowing! Hi guys, I was on the way to the bank yesterday to put some watches back, it was very sunny outside, and when I entered my underground garage to get in a car my heart sinked, the lume on every watch that was in a box was glowing, except for 16700. I tried to shine on the watches again with iPhone flashlight but pointless. It was just not working at all. Did anyone else experienced that? Did I purchase a fake? If yes I hope Chrono24 will cover me. Please help!

24 July 2018, 12:50 AM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,060	Tritium dials have a half life of around 12 years so expect now your dial will have little or no lume. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

24 July 2018, 12:58 AM	#5
dmhines "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Florida Watch: Hulk Posts: 476	The only downside of a Vintage Rolex .. you can't see the time in the dark ... I know the feeling when I'm wearing my 1991 16713 .. :) __________________ . Hulk / RootBeer / Explorer

24 July 2018, 01:20 AM	#6
lee fowler 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 2,559	Best sell it to me if it is not working properly! __________________ Instagram: @lee1563

24 July 2018, 01:59 AM	#9
Uhtred59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Real Name: Ken Location: Europa Watch: 216570 Posts: 693	Works as the laws of physics dictate. __________________ "My center is yielding, my right is retreating. Excellent situation, I am attacking" Ferdinand Foch

24 July 2018, 12:50 AM	#3
zwjk "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 61	Your watch has a tritium dial. Tritium has a half life of 12.5 years so it is perfectly normal.

24 July 2018, 12:51 AM	#4
jaisonline 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5 digit models Posts: 1,516	The 16700 tritium's lume wore out. http://rolexpassionreport.com/15606/...olex-luminous/ Prior – 1953, The early age of Rolex luminous, used on their pocket watches, early oyster cases, bubble backs and radiomir Panerai’s. 1953 – 1956, When Rolex introduced the world their sports / utility / tool watch concept with radium Submariner, TOG, Explorer & GMT Master. 1957 – 1960, When Rolex lowered radiation and chanced dial printing from 1 to 2 colored print and enhanced the lacquer to a more glossy variant. 1960 – 1963, The pre ‘Transitional” period with “Exclamation” mark and due to the starting international regulation, again less radioactive luminous. 1963 – 1964, “Transitional” underline of which Rolex switched from Radium to Trtium, delivered dials are “swiss” signed but laminated with tritium. 1964 – 1967, The new generation tritium luminous got added on glossy dials, signing chanced from “Swiss” to “Swiss – T<25” & “T-Swiss-T”. 1967 – 1983, The matte dial with tritium luminous got introduced by Rolex. We see tritium signings variations like T Swiss T<25 or σ T-Swiss-T σ. 1983 – 1997, The last era of the tritium dials when the glossy dial surface came back, now the luminous was added in a added white gold surround. 1998- 2000, LumiNova was invented in 1993 and patented in 1995; Nemoto & Co. Ltd. was contracted in 1998 to provide LumiNova to Switzerland. 2000 – 2008, Super Luminova, a improved version of Luminova, a material that has the same properties as tritium but is not radioactive. 2008 – now, Chroma Light, the new blue-ish colored Super Luminova thats been in use since Rolex patented it.

24 July 2018, 01:37 AM	#8
DavidUK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Leicestershire UK Posts: 697	No lume = a more vintage piece = more desirable! Your heart should be lifted!

24 July 2018, 02:52 AM	#10
Oyster Al "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Al Location: USA Posts: 1,549	You should be opposite of disturbed. Seems no one monkeyed with your dial in a relume attempt. (it’s all about the dial)

24 July 2018, 03:06 AM	#11
Beckster "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Singapore Watch: 16710 BLRO Posts: 836	I think maybe a little bit more research before you buy a watch next time? Anyways as the experts have said, nothing to worry. To be expected. In fact I’d be very worried if the opposite was true and it’s glowing! __________________ Rolex Only Please

24 July 2018, 03:21 AM	#12
stmoore Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: US Watch: Gilt Posts: 1,592	This can't be real.

24 July 2018, 03:22 AM	#13
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Unless it is the very last run of 16700's that had Luminova, there are probably only a handful of these that would still glow. I have a T serial and it has been dark for years. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

24 July 2018, 04:08 AM	#14
IronRiceBowl "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 11	I'll pay you shipping to make sure that it isn't defective

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