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Horationelson · 24 July 2018, 07:05 AM

I'd recently been deliberating on whether to add a Milgauss (zBlue) to, or swap for, my Exp1 (mk2).

Today, I got rid of the Exp1 because it just wasn't doing it for me. It's a watch that I have a lot of respect for, but I wasn't getting a buzz when I put it on or checked the time. It was quite impulsive, but I decided to get rid of it because there was simply no reason to justify keep it.

So the plan was to pick up a Milgauss later in the day. I headed to the AD to try on the Milly but became distracted... a white 39mm OP. After a good half hour trying both on, I decided to go for the Milgauss (seeing that it could become discontinued any time in the coming months/years, and the OP should be around for some time). But the OP is so much more understated and screams quality in a way that the Milgauss doesn't (the Milgauss is certainly a screamer, but in other ways). So I told the dealer that I'd get the OP instead. No, actually the Milgauss. I soon realised that I was too torn to buy either and had to walk away to sleep on it.

Although a watch is obviously a personal decision, I'm interested: which of these would you go for?

Helmi · 24 July 2018, 07:09 AM

I prefer the z blue. The combination of the blue dial and green crystal is very beautiful and can't be found elsewhere. The white op is nice but I feel it will get boring after short while.

Colin G · 24 July 2018, 07:10 AM

White OP is new so you can grab one later. Keep the milgauss and grab the new OP when you have the cash.

The milgauss, although very nice is not my thing so I would have chosen the new white OP39.

ap1 · 24 July 2018, 07:28 AM

Zblue for the dial - interesting matchup as they are both non black dials

T01 · 24 July 2018, 07:32 AM

White OP

Bruins7 · 24 July 2018, 07:41 AM

Z blue no question

Horationelson · 24 July 2018, 09:15 AM

I have one reservation for each watch:

- Milgauss: The angled bezel isn't ideal. I had this on the Exp1 and it's a scratch magnet (plus I don't think is as elegant as the smooth domed bezel you get on an OP). I could live with it, but I'm not mad about it. They seem to be on quite a few Rolex models at the moment, including DJ41.

- OP: Although this is almost the perfect watch, it is described by many an "entry level" Rolex. Whilst I don't wear a watch to prove a point or for status etc, I do feel like I can do better (spend more?) on something that would ultimately be a daily wearer. Is there anyone out there who regularly wears an OP, despite having/being able to afford something which is more than "entry level"?

droptopman · 24 July 2018, 09:18 AM

Based on your comments, does not sound like you are committed to either. Maybe you have not found the "one" yet?

brandrea · 24 July 2018, 09:18 AM

I prefer the GV, but between the two you’ve listed I’d pick up the Blue Z

Old Expat Beast · 24 July 2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by droptopman

Based on your comments, does not sound like you are committed to either. Maybe you have not found the "one" yet?

x2.

Keep looking.

subtona · 24 July 2018, 09:22 AM

That milgaus is a stunner in person.

GreatScott · 24 July 2018, 09:25 AM

Why have one, get both.

Horationelson · 24 July 2018, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by droptopman

Based on your comments, does not sound like you are committed to either. Maybe you have not found the "one" yet?

This may well be right. For the past 10 years, I've been wearing a 34mm blue OP (technically the old Airking, with a 369 dial) and it's almost the perfect watch. The reason it's "almost" perfect is because it's just a bit on the small side. I guess that the Milgauss and OP (and the now discarded Exp1) are common enough to pick up from a boutique, so it's an easy way of scratching the itch. Other than those watches, I'm not sure that there's any current model in the Rolex Range which is quite the "one" (other than Cellini Moonphase, which now isn't the right time to purchase).

Horationelson · 24 July 2018, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatScott

Why have one, get both.

I was very tempted to do that today.

But in order to preserve my marriage, I probably shouldn't (not least because I'd need to get a third to add to my wife's DJ...)

droptopman · 24 July 2018, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Horationelson

This may well be right. For the past 10 years, I've been wearing a 34mm blue OP (technically the old Airking, with a 369 dial) and it's almost the perfect watch. The reason it's "almost" perfect is because it's just a bit on the small side. I guess that the Milgauss and OP (and the now discarded Exp1) are common enough to pick up from a boutique, so it's an easy way of scratching the itch. Other than those watches, I'm not sure that there's any current model in the Rolex Range which is quite the "one" (other than Cellini Moonphase, which now isn't the right time to purchase).

Got you. Since you have a vintage OP, maybe the Milgauss makes more sense for something a little different. Vote is not helping much as it is dead even...

playmore009 · 24 July 2018, 09:47 AM

Buying a watch shouldn’t be this difficult. If I have reservations, I would just move on.

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Nikrnic · 24 July 2018, 11:31 AM

I can see how you got bored of the Explorer but that could happen with any piece. The new OP looks so versatile and safe I don't see how you can go wrong. That being said I'd go for the Zblue it always looks stunning, I never get tired of looking at mine. Ok I'm biased

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sunnygps · 24 July 2018, 12:58 PM

+1 for Zblue.

crbrown · 24 July 2018, 01:48 PM

I’d go blue too or black. Perhaps white. I would love a green dial with the crystal though.

Nycturbovr6 · 24 July 2018, 02:17 PM

Keep the milguass

thlax · 24 July 2018, 02:17 PM

Can't go wrong but ...OP is great.

CLG23 · 24 July 2018, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droptopman

Based on your comments, does not sound like you are committed to either. Maybe you have not found the "one" yet?

This

horonet17 · 24 July 2018, 02:33 PM

Wow that is a very tough choice between two great watches. I like them both but lean white OP because of the price difference.

Though the correct answer is to get both.

Investr · 24 July 2018, 02:44 PM

Listen close-You got rid of a boring watch so dont buy another one!!! BLUE MILGAUSS is certainly not boring....

Horationelson · 24 July 2018, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Investr

Listen close-You got rid of a boring watch so dont buy another one!!! BLUE MILGAUSS is certainly not boring....

I agree, but I don't know if I'd describe the white OP as "boring" (the dial has a very interesting colour/texture), but I suppose it is a relatively vanilla watch.

Psijason · 24 July 2018, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droptopman

Based on your comments, does not sound like you are committed to either. Maybe you have not found the "one" yet?

Horationelson · 25 July 2018, 02:03 AM

Thank you for all the (100+!) votes in this poll. It’s interesting how close the split is, and I am slightly surprised that the Milgauss has taken the lead.

I do wonder how many of those who voted (either way) have seen the White OP in the flesh. It is a very striking watch.

As it turns out, I’ve spent much more time today reminiscing over the White OP than the Milgauss. It’s really more of a sand-blasted platinum finish rather than a true white. And it would never risk looking “silly”, which part of me does fear the Milgauss could, e.g. in business meetings, or even in court (I’m a lawyer and this would be a daily wearer, if that makes much difference).

Anyway, there won’t be a watch purchase today and I think I am going to leave it some time to compose my thoughts on this one.

Horationelson · 13 January 2019, 07:34 AM

To update members...

I didn’t get either the Z-blue or the white OP 39.

I got a blue YM in August. A lovely watch, but again it just didn’t feel right, so I sold it before Xmas.

The search for “the one” continues:
- I am very interested in the ALS Saxonia Thin (37mm) and may get one, but it won’t satisfy the itch for a solid SS sports watch.
- Part of me regrets selling the Exp1. It wasn’t the world’s most perfect watch, and didn’t work as my only watch (it became impossible to wear the 34mm OP after wearing the 39mm 214270 as a daily), but I now realise that it has a place in virtually any collection (particularly alongside a dress watch and maybe another sports watch).
- I am waiting to see what comes out of Basel before jumping to purchase another Rolex, but I may pick up the Exp1 again this year...
- the Milgauss Z-blue is beautiful, but too much of a novelty for me. I’d need at least two other watches in the collection before adding it.

watchwatcher · 13 January 2019, 09:27 AM

Interesting thread. From your description, you don't sound like a milguass-type guy. Sounds like the OP is more your style. And...maybe the EXP is, too. I think holding off and being sure sounds like the good plan.

Pauln · 13 January 2019, 10:02 AM

I agree. Hold off and catch your breath. You might consider a 36mm Explorer. I liked the 39mm Explorer, but after a year it was sold. I bought a 36mm Explorer, which I think is just perfect. Exp 2 is also no slouch if a bigger SS pro model is what you’re after.

View Poll Results: Milgauss Z Blue or White 39mm OP?
Blue Mligauss	93	55.03%
White OP	76	44.97%
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24 July 2018, 07:05 AM	#1
Horationelson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: London Posts: 260	Outgoing... (ridiculous day) I'd recently been deliberating on whether to add a Milgauss (zBlue) to, or swap for, my Exp1 (mk2). Today, I got rid of the Exp1 because it just wasn't doing it for me. It's a watch that I have a lot of respect for, but I wasn't getting a buzz when I put it on or checked the time. It was quite impulsive, but I decided to get rid of it because there was simply no reason to justify keep it. So the plan was to pick up a Milgauss later in the day. I headed to the AD to try on the Milly but became distracted... a white 39mm OP. After a good half hour trying both on, I decided to go for the Milgauss (seeing that it could become discontinued any time in the coming months/years, and the OP should be around for some time). But the OP is so much more understated and screams quality in a way that the Milgauss doesn't (the Milgauss is certainly a screamer, but in other ways). So I told the dealer that I'd get the OP instead. No, actually the Milgauss. I soon realised that I was too torn to buy either and had to walk away to sleep on it. Although a watch is obviously a personal decision, I'm interested: which of these would you go for?

24 July 2018, 07:09 AM	#2
Helmi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Doha Posts: 2,065	Outgoing... (ridiculous day) I prefer the z blue. The combination of the blue dial and green crystal is very beautiful and can't be found elsewhere. The white op is nice but I feel it will get boring after short while.

24 July 2018, 09:18 AM	#8
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Based on your comments, does not sound like you are committed to either. Maybe you have not found the "one" yet? __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

24 July 2018, 09:22 AM	#11
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,601	That milgaus is a stunner in person. __________________

24 July 2018, 07:10 AM	#3
Colin G "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Canada Watch: 216570, 214270 Posts: 683	White OP is new so you can grab one later. Keep the milgauss and grab the new OP when you have the cash. The milgauss, although very nice is not my thing so I would have chosen the new white OP39.

24 July 2018, 07:28 AM	#4
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	Zblue for the dial - interesting matchup as they are both non black dials

24 July 2018, 07:32 AM	#5
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,490	White OP

24 July 2018, 07:41 AM	#6
Bruins7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: LA Watch: Rolex(4),15400 Posts: 1,105	Z blue no question

24 July 2018, 09:15 AM	#7
Horationelson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: London Posts: 260	I have one reservation for each watch: - Milgauss: The angled bezel isn't ideal. I had this on the Exp1 and it's a scratch magnet (plus I don't think is as elegant as the smooth domed bezel you get on an OP). I could live with it, but I'm not mad about it. They seem to be on quite a few Rolex models at the moment, including DJ41. - OP: Although this is almost the perfect watch, it is described by many an "entry level" Rolex. Whilst I don't wear a watch to prove a point or for status etc, I do feel like I can do better (spend more?) on something that would ultimately be a daily wearer. Is there anyone out there who regularly wears an OP, despite having/being able to afford something which is more than "entry level"?

24 July 2018, 09:18 AM	#9
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,129	I prefer the GV, but between the two you’ve listed I’d pick up the Blue Z

24 July 2018, 09:25 AM	#12
GreatScott "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: In a house Posts: 845	Why have one, get both.

24 July 2018, 09:47 AM	#16
playmore009 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Shawn Location: Boston, MA Watch: GMT IIc, LVc Posts: 737	Buying a watch shouldn’t be this difficult. If I have reservations, I would just move on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 July 2018, 11:31 AM	#17
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	I can see how you got bored of the Explorer but that could happen with any piece. The new OP looks so versatile and safe I don't see how you can go wrong. That being said I'd go for the Zblue it always looks stunning, I never get tired of looking at mine. Ok I'm biased Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

24 July 2018, 12:58 PM	#18
sunnygps 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 1,145	+1 for Zblue.

24 July 2018, 01:48 PM	#19
crbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 142	I’d go blue too or black. Perhaps white. I would love a green dial with the crystal though.

24 July 2018, 02:17 PM	#20
Nycturbovr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Posts: 7,630	Keep the milguass

24 July 2018, 02:17 PM	#21
thlax "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boston Watch: 126610LN Posts: 1,388	Can't go wrong but ...OP is great. __________________ 2020 126610LN SubDate 1950 LeCoultre Memovox 2020 Green OP41 124300 (Sold), 2020 114060 ND Sub (Sold) Tudor BB58 Blue (Sold), CHNR (Sold), 126603 TT SD43 (Sold) 116500 Black Daytona (Sold), 5512 vintage ‘69 (Sold) 114060 (Sold), AP15202ST (Sold) AP15500 Grey (Sold), 126710 BLRO Pepsi (Sold), 2018 39MM White OP (Sold), SD43 (Sold), ALS 1815 WG (Sold), 116520 White Daytona (sold), DSSD (Sold), 116655 RG YM (Returned), 116619LB Smurf (Sold), PP 5167A (Sold), AP Diver (Sold), PAM112 (Sold)

24 July 2018, 02:33 PM	#23
horonet17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: CA Posts: 94	Wow that is a very tough choice between two great watches. I like them both but lean white OP because of the price difference. Though the correct answer is to get both.

24 July 2018, 02:44 PM	#24
Investr Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Rick Location: LSU Watch: Constantly changes Posts: 3,815	Listen close-You got rid of a boring watch so dont buy another one!!! BLUE MILGAUSS is certainly not boring....

25 July 2018, 02:03 AM	#27
Horationelson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: London Posts: 260	Thank you for all the (100+!) votes in this poll. It’s interesting how close the split is, and I am slightly surprised that the Milgauss has taken the lead. I do wonder how many of those who voted (either way) have seen the White OP in the flesh. It is a very striking watch. As it turns out, I’ve spent much more time today reminiscing over the White OP than the Milgauss. It’s really more of a sand-blasted platinum finish rather than a true white. And it would never risk looking “silly”, which part of me does fear the Milgauss could, e.g. in business meetings, or even in court (I’m a lawyer and this would be a daily wearer, if that makes much difference). Anyway, there won’t be a watch purchase today and I think I am going to leave it some time to compose my thoughts on this one.

13 January 2019, 07:34 AM	#28
Horationelson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: London Posts: 260	To update members... I didn’t get either the Z-blue or the white OP 39. I got a blue YM in August. A lovely watch, but again it just didn’t feel right, so I sold it before Xmas. The search for “the one” continues: - I am very interested in the ALS Saxonia Thin (37mm) and may get one, but it won’t satisfy the itch for a solid SS sports watch. - Part of me regrets selling the Exp1. It wasn’t the world’s most perfect watch, and didn’t work as my only watch (it became impossible to wear the 34mm OP after wearing the 39mm 214270 as a daily), but I now realise that it has a place in virtually any collection (particularly alongside a dress watch and maybe another sports watch). - I am waiting to see what comes out of Basel before jumping to purchase another Rolex, but I may pick up the Exp1 again this year... - the Milgauss Z-blue is beautiful, but too much of a novelty for me. I’d need at least two other watches in the collection before adding it.

13 January 2019, 09:27 AM	#29
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	Interesting thread. From your description, you don't sound like a milguass-type guy. Sounds like the OP is more your style. And...maybe the EXP is, too. I think holding off and being sure sounds like the good plan.

13 January 2019, 10:02 AM	#30
Pauln "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Paul Location: Colorado Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,543	I agree. Hold off and catch your breath. You might consider a 36mm Explorer. I liked the 39mm Explorer, but after a year it was sold. I bought a 36mm Explorer, which I think is just perfect. Exp 2 is also no slouch if a bigger SS pro model is what you’re after.

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