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Old 9 August 2018, 04:10 AM   #61
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That’s why they just “sell” it to Family Members/Friends who flip on the Grey Market for them.With up to 10K of extra profit on each Watch you’d be a Fool to think this isn’t happening Daily.
if good AD customers couldn't get a watch because an AD was back dooring them all, then they wouldn't be good AD customers any more. IMO its the exception vs the rule when it does happen. There is plenty of good AD customers and plenty who also get these watches at retail.

People with little purchase history are grasping at straws to explain why they cant get a watch. Buying history or lack there of is the most logical reason, as someone always has more and is ahead of you in the queue.

My AD holds watches and sells them to clients they want to sell them to, they dont put them in the display and tease people. They get sold and pretty quickly so that doesn't mean they are holding back these pieces for months and months. They come and go all the time and people they dont want to know will never even know they were there.
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Old 9 August 2018, 04:47 AM   #62
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https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/sw...-business-news


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Old 9 August 2018, 05:19 AM   #63
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My AD has has a great year. Their issue is demand. Not supply.

If more people want a product produced in set volumes that product will be harder to aquire. It’s not rocket science.
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Old 9 August 2018, 05:44 AM   #64
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if good AD customers couldn't get a watch because an AD was back dooring them all, then they wouldn't be good AD customers any more. IMO its the exception vs the rule when it does happen. There is plenty of good AD customers and plenty who also get these watches at retail.

People with little purchase history are grasping at straws to explain why they cant get a watch. Buying history or lack there of is the most logical reason, as someone always has more and is ahead of you in the queue.

My AD holds watches and sells them to clients they want to sell them to, they dont put them in the display and tease people. They get sold and pretty quickly so that doesn't mean they are holding back these pieces for months and months. They come and go all the time and people they dont want to know will never even know they were there.
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OP's subject line is completely off vs. the post.

Either way, yes I know for a fact an AD holds stock back of certain models. Most of the time as inducements for Purchasers to buy "less desirable" models first. However, ADs are also pretty smart as they can not hold that particular watch for that long. Rolex does keep track on which inventory goes to which AD and gets sold. If the watch isn't registered at some point, the AD won't be shipped another one of that particular model (especially with a SS sports watch). Theoretically they can't just hold a bunch of Daytonas and BLRO as Rolex won't ship them another one until its "sold".
Might I suggest you read the OP post the reason why the shortage of watches.He states its all down to the Nivarox machine that Rolex has supposed to of bought which is complete and utter boswellocks,as Nivarox is the name for a metal alloy.
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Old 9 August 2018, 06:30 AM   #65
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Nice comments!

Looks like this stirred up the nest!


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Old 9 August 2018, 06:25 PM   #66
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Old 9 August 2018, 07:49 PM   #67
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Yes with statements below made by yourself giving complete misinformation.

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Rolex bought the machine from Nivarox to bring it all "IN HOUSE" movement.

Rolex has been struggling to make these parts with the Nivarox machine and thus supply has been low or slow due to difficulty making these essential parts.
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Old 9 August 2018, 08:06 PM   #68
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Yes with statements below made by yourself giving complete misinformation.


That’s why I put into the forum for response and thoughts. It’s what it’s for!


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No this forum was originally formed to give correct information and not misinformation.

Today we have many different material composition of the hairspring but it's all down to the final regulation in any mechanical movement some perhaps better shock resistance in the silicon but would doubt if it would make any huge difference.Well it's true the Parachrom spring was developed in conjunction with a few others Patek was one,but they dropped out to develop their own hairspring, Parachrom is just a made up name for the metal used.The Breguet overcoil is just a design name for the hairspring used in Rolex watches for decades and that style of hairspring is not possible in silicon I would say that's why Rolex stuck to the parachrom.Most escapement hairsprings for the whole Swiss watch industry,were prior to the parachrom Rolex in-house and the rest of the brands, made and supplied from ETA Swatch owned by Nivarox Far.Now perhaps that's the real reason for the development of the new Rolex in-house parachrom hairspring plus brands like Patek to make there silicone.Simply because the ETA Swatch group had such a strangle hold on all the Swiss watch industry with escapement parts.
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Old 9 August 2018, 08:23 PM   #70
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Rolex ADs don't hold onto their watches. They sell them.

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No this forum was originally formed to give correct information and not misinformation.



Today we have many different material composition of the hairspring but it's all down to the final regulation in any mechanical movement some perhaps better shock resistance in the silicon but would doubt if it would make any huge difference.Well it's true the Parachrom spring was developed in conjunction with a few others Patek was one,but they dropped out to develop their own hairspring, Parachrom is just a made up name for the metal used.The Breguet overcoil is just a design name for the hairspring used in Rolex watches for decades and that style of hairspring is not possible in silicon I would say that's why Rolex stuck to the parachrom.Most escapement hairsprings for the whole Swiss watch industry,were prior to the parachrom Rolex in-house and the rest of the brands, made and supplied from ETA Swatch owned by Nivarox Far.Now perhaps that's the real reason for the development of the new Rolex in-house parachrom hairspring plus brands like Patek to make there silicone.Simply because the ETA Swatch group had such a strangle hold on all the Swiss watch industry with escapement parts.


Your misunderstandings.

I didn’t give Misinformation. I asked for thoughts on the subject information I gave. Did I ever say my comments are gospel?

No response is needed. You can close this tread.

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I think we can file this thread into the "My AD told me..." bin.
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Old 9 August 2018, 08:37 PM   #72
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Rolex can make hundred thousands of day just with the same movement.

Not a reason for just sports model shortage that share the same movement.
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Old 9 August 2018, 09:08 PM   #73
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All this speculation, no matter how well informed or otherwise, is a complete waste of everyone's time.

Untill there is a statement/explanation from Geneva, we may as well be speculating about the size of the universe. Every one is an 'expert' and has an opinion, but no one really knows the answer.

A statement from Rolex? Good luck.
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Old 9 August 2018, 09:18 PM   #74
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its more of business strategy vs lack of production
'xactly.

Daytona production has been limited for the past 20 years. And not because they couldn't make enough of those little subdial indicators.
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I think the message is that there is a warehouse near Area 51 full of Daytona with no springs.
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Rolex is also a charitable trust and doesnt need to do anything to meet a temporary demand in product when the brand has never been stronger. I would say they are exactly where they want to be.


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